Mood altering substances lol
Sharing this with my eRoids mates. This morning, had quite a werid experience with my mind. Maybe shed some insight if you've had simillar
I usually take a pre-workout before hitting the gym. currently on Jack3D, since it's recently being banned in Overprotection land downunder. 2 scoops nothing too hard. It's also my pin day today for testE. Morning is looking good.
Untill.. I finish a good seshion, walking to get to my car and I start to feel really weird. Like a controlled depression. I actually wanted to avoid people and had all sorts of paranoid scenarios happening in my head about my housemates etc.. Now before u take the piss Im mentally healthy and no family history of mental illness, so easy tiger.. lol
but I've heard that the comedown from Jack3D could be a bit rough, also, since it's been 4 days since my last testE pin. Im assuming test levels are low, estrogen levels are high? (day 1 of week5 today)
It hit me like a ton of bricks, we Are taking mood altering substances after all. So i went and slept it off. also took my first dose of adex as scheduled. Man trying to get .25mg from a tinyass 1 mg tab is hillarious.
Anyone had similar exp?
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i been using jack3d for a while pre-workout.it makes me feel more focused,ive never had any bad exp.with it.that dark rage crap on the other hand made me feel like absolute shit couldnt even go to the gym after that.
Yep, screw Jack3d. I crash hard off of it. I seriously turn into a little bitch from the crash. There are better alternatives out there. I'm using EFX's K-Otic right now. It gets me jacked as shit without the crash.
try craze its better preworkout than jacked
Supernova283Ugh all these prework out drinks and stimulant blends. What happened to slapping yourself in the face and yelling to pump yourself up?
Then again I guess this is a steroid website. We're all about those artificial enhancements.
some choose a cup'o'joe and i choose a preworkout. they affect everyone in the same ways for the most part.
Supernova283I'm not a huge fan of stimulants in general. To each his own though. I guess if it's working you can't argue with that.
It's okay mate, neither are the mormans ;P
true.. (im going to go on a little bit of a tangent, just wanted to share a related thought with eroids) in regards to everything a bodybuilder puts into his body whether it is supplements or steroids, there needs to be this mindset that your gains come from your diet, exercise and rest. everything else is just the little extras to add to a successful regimen. these extras are NOT how you make your gains, or worth sacrificing their health for.
thats why i think kids who ask, "are you on creatine? i need to get on some creatine!" have already failed at bodybuilding before they started. tons of guys think the gains will come from the supplements they take.
the guy who uses a preworkout supplement as part of a structured bodybuilding program knows the gains are not coming from the supplement. he can adjust his diet and training to be more successful. when the noob hits a stumbling block, they turn to their supplements and take an extra scoop! and there is the problem with stims!!!
Supernova283Yeah creatine is the big thing. When I was in high school I tried it, but it just bloated me up with a bunch of water weight. I still hear people talking about how great it is and whatnot.
I do take a multi, fish oil and glucosamine though, but that's for overall health not really for building muscle.
Ember779The thing about Jacked is that it is a blend. When you have a blend like that you have no idea how much of something you are taking (in this case all we really care about is the stimulant). So one day you could take 2 scoop and be getting half the stimulant you normally get and another day you could get double.
Personally not a fan of stuff like that.
AnonA possible link is a certain ban on Jacked3D on US military installations. A solider, airman, or marine (not sure on specifics) had a psychotic episode and blamed it on Jacked3D roughly 5 months ago. Now the substance is not allowed to be sold onbase at all, the PX (military walmart) or any of the various GNCs on the militarybases. GNC has a contract with the govt to have stores on military bases much like BurgerKing.
I also read that some guy in the army or marines had a hart attack after using jacked 3d, and they were saying it was due to the dmaa
yeha i read that story. Then they decide to ban the fuckin thing all together here in Australia. So technically Jack3D is now an 'illegal substance' lolz.. along with red cordial?
I have taken Jack3d and that shit in there makes me irritated. I walk around my whole workout just annoyed with shit. I wont take it anymore. My guess would be it had a similar effect on you.
i would def lean towards the stimulants in the jack3d. the fact that it happened after workout(couple hours after taking the stimulant) and wasnt prolonged would steer me away from a test fluctuation
I did like 4-5 "cycles" (8 weeks on / 4 weeks off) with OxyElite Pro which has the same stim (DMAA) as Jack3D (and made by the same company). I was straight bipolar on that shit bro. It definitely changed my mood when I was on it and when I came off.
I stuck with it for a while cause it was a great mood enhancer while I was on, appetite suppressant, made me cut some weight and even made me more "with it" at work. Later I did notice that it caused crazy swings when i was coming off it later in the day and even during periods I was off.
I'm not sure if DMAA is to 100% blame in your case, but it definitely could be a contributing factor.
When I was going through it, I never touched any AAS (only natty boosters).. And other stim Pre-WO supps never made md like this. Lately I keep reading more and more negative shit about DMAA... so you may consider changing up your preworkout.