LIV 52 usage? (for first cycle Noobs)
Im about to run my first cycle ever just wanna make sure i take every precaution Should i use Liv 52 ?
iv read a lot about this product and i feel it will help my liver a lot this cycle will probably put the most stress on my liver its ever had.
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Vets and experienced AAS users Input would be extremely appreciated
Thanks in Advance to ALL who help!
Semper Fi
1-12 test e 600 mg/ week Pins mon & thurs 300mg may be moving to 500mg wk (not sure yet)
ADEX .5 EOD wks 3-12 wks 13-14 .5 E3D may tweak a little depends on estrogen lvls
PCT start wk15 ends 18
Clomid 100 100 50 50
Nolva 40 40 20 20
im 22 YO
6' 2"
215
13-16% BF im leaning more twords 13 % but others may think different
ALL natty Thus Far
LIfts 1rep MAX
Barbell bench- 315
Squat- 450
Deadlift- 365
Projected Diet
4000gs+ cals A day
300-350gs protein a day
400+ Carbs a Day
Just and example of my daily intake
Meal 1 6 egg whites/1 whole egg. 1 cup of oatmeal
Meal 2 8 oz meat choice. 2 cups of white rice ( I season with Mrs. Dash, sometimes lemon pepper) 1 medium sweet potato
Meal 3 8 oz chicken breast, 2 cups of brown rice, broccoli
Meal 4 60 gram protein shake prior to workout, cup of almonds.
Meal 5 10 oz meat choice (red!!) 1 and 1/2 cup of brown or long grain rice, spinach salad with olive oil or balsamic v.
Meal 6 8 oz chicken or fish. 1 cup of broccoli
Meal 7 Low Fat cottage cheese or Greek yogurt with fruit added.
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I'm not seeing anything in your plan that requires liver protection... that said...
I started taking different liver supporting supplements (including Liv 52) after blood work to see if I can improve my levels. After several years of taking the supplements I did not see any appreciable difference or improvement.
After stopping the supplements I did not see any "hit". My blood work stayed the same irrespective of the use of liver supplements.
My research into such supplements also tends to support the notion that the testing is often misleading and the dosage way too small to make a difference.
My take away was to eat clean and stay away from (other) things like alcohol that are known to harm the liver.
-my 2 bits
Even if im taking Creatine(first thing in the morning, and immediatly after workout), Whey Protein (first thing in the morning, and immediatly after workout) Casein Protein (before bed), 3x ED BCAA capsules, 2x ED Beta Alanine, and 3x ED Fish Oil?
Don't need liver support for any of that. I personally don't use creatine or Beta A on cycle. Kind of a waste with AAS. The gains you make while on cycle are going to far outweigh anything from either of those so you won't even notice them. Save them for PCT and when not on a cycle.
in the past 6 years of using it I honestly use creatine to assist with recovery it helps a lot it just make me a little bloated IMO i don't use it for muscle mass, it seems to me to mostly just be water retention in muscle from creatine, and as far as the Beta A is use it for fatigue lactic acid while working out......
So basically your saying it wont help my gains much at all which makes since why waste my $
however now knowing what i use them for; should i keep using them still?
Or does AAS make the recovery process way faster?
Helps with Fatigue?
Lactic acid build up from breaking myself off while working out way Less?
By no means am i using these because i cant deal with feeling sore or having the cramped up burning sensation of pushing my self at the gym or the feeling of Fatigue.....
since high school sports and being marine infantry Ive hit that wall on physical challenges and past them
the mind will tell u to stop way before the body is done i often find myself throwing up after some activites on legs and some other parts of my training but i just want to assist those 3 things to push myself to the next level
Thanks in advance for the help really appreciated
no nor-19 and no orals, i dont see any reason for liv52
im Definatly considering that i have labs getting done ill know soon enough im guessing your most likely 100% right about my age my body is still growing... im trying to dial in my disipline and just say lets do this the hard way for 4 more years and peak all the way out then take that next step its a personal choice im going to have to make that im fighting with right now...
Thanks for the advice
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your a little young bro no one has said this yet but if i were you i would wait a few years at your age you have so much test floating around with proper diet and training you will grow
Anon+1 for a cycle with preparation and planning. Good job bro.
Thanks Ill keep yall updated
You do not need liver support if you are just injecting test-e so don't worry about it.
This is a good first noob cycle.
And for your question...
If you're not taking any injectables like deca or trenbolone... you don't need to run on liv.52.
And... if you plan to take oral steroids, the use of Liv.52 is appropriate.
If you take any of these... take 2-6 caps a day depending on the products' hepatoxicity (+dosage) to prevent damages to your liver.
Thanks Bro