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Okay this is a subject that has been on my mind for a bit now and I want to see what the community thinks before We make a decision on what we are going to do about this.... The blood tests have gotten kind of wild that is for sure we have some sources posting bloods of persons unknown and some sending out free kits to test in attempt to prove legitimacy of their product, sources also posting lab tests of their product to prove legitimate... But what does it really prove to you? The problem is it is self promotion .
Would you all be more likely to believe a test done randomly by one of you guys or Are you satisfied just seeing whatever the source posts up here... I know it's good to see sources testing gear and it can ease your mind a bit but does that question ever Pop in the back of your head..... Also how do you know the test is of the product that is said to be... We just don't know. So we are relying solely on honesty and integrity. Like I said earlier I want to see what the community thinks... If you are a source I want you to refrain from posting as this is directed at the members and their thoughts.
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AnonIf any of us have a concern on whatever we see we will address it as that's what we do for many reasons if you think that's negative maybe it you that is negative and do not understand the bigger picture... I'm done here
If the MODs are posting about testing or chiming in on Lab Result Threads.....they have their reasons....it's not personal
I dont think its personal i just think some transparency would be nice with what there rooting around at thats all...i mean im here to contribute i with whatever i can but i guess i still dont know what this is all about....if there are suspect tests by sources i can understand the concern that would be something i would want delt with asap
This the second time in what, 3 days, that you have made implications that we are somehow getting paid off or otherwise acting in nefarious ways? What exactly entitles you to transparency from the mods or admin of this site? Do you pay to be here?
How did i imply that you guys have been paid here or anywhere else? I didnt imply anything nefarious i said the more we know the more we can help.... you got me all wrong if thats the way i came across i apologize im just trying to understand thats all
Don't we all deserve some transparency? It's up to the mods here to take the ignorance out of the equation.
I am curious, what transparency is missing that directly effects your enjoyment of the site?
It's not a matter of site enjoyment, it's about any source getting special treatment from the mods or admin.
BFG has created a thread just to keep things real around here.
There are lots of people convinced that eroids is rigged, and that some sources get treated different or protected by the mods. Any chance that you as a mod have to squash those conspiracy theories, you should embrace that opportunity.
I think it is in poor form to call a member out, and ask why he deserves transparency. It should be assumed that we all deserve transparency ti the extent it doesn't put anyone at risk or invade someones privacy.
Transparency is a touchy issue here at eroids. I've spent a week at banned camp for asking the wrong question. Hopefully this post does not do it again,
So what? Who are these lots of people that are convinced that ur talking about? Propaganda? No sources get preferential treatment. Site.runs smooth. And , you are gonna help keep.it that way, right, bro?
AnonNot one source is protected from anything but whoever can think whatever... I can't control that
I've been here long enough to see that a source is not protected if they get legit shitty reviews, or rip someone off.
Eroids is just transparent enough to see this if you spend enough time here,
I hope we can maintain a level of transparency on the site, and continue to dispel the myths.
I would hope that mods can simply inform people and answer questions when these kind of topics come up. No need to get pissed, or ban someone for asking hard questions.
You are still here. Darkhorse tho is right on the edge.
I'm not even sure what HGH testing darkhorse was talking about,
I like the attitude that BFG has in his "ask me anything" thread and want to see that carry over to all topics, and all mods.
If it's a question that should go unanswered, just say so.
No source receives special treatment from eroids. As mods we do not either. On a personal level I think it is safe to safe we all have our favorites. But that is why we are technically forbidden from hanging out in SI's.
Your idea of poor form is my idea of keeping it real. But I wear this tag and you don't, so I guess only one of our ways will carry on.
Not at all.....I for one appreciate (you) testing. I think it's getting confusing with all these multiple color tops and Serum numbers.
Maybe keeping the results on the Source's SI Thread or:
Bundle all the results on one Thread Labeled 'testing' for easier comparison since it's only One Source testing Multiply Kits
I dunno...all these Serum Numbers ranging 6-40ng/mL on kits that no one can buy?
I agree with this.
IfbbmoeHonestly it is hard to believe when sources post any lab tests because obviously they aren't going to post if they have bad results but also they could easily be using another sources gear and posting the results as their own so I take it with a grain of salt and look for user's reviews with high karma to see what they said about the product.
I would hope most members have the common sense to not fully trust the source posting lab results but I doubt this is the case,
Maybe the guys posting the 'test kit' results could Pm the source the results instead of posting them because if the products are not for sale it makes no difference to the community us seeing them or not.
IMO opinion, this shouldn't even be up for discussion. Why are sources giving out test kits with their order for bloodwork that members should be getting done irrespective of who they order their gear from?
Secondly, posting up random people's bloodwork to "prove a product" does absolutely nothing to enlighten any of us (and this is aside from the actual possibility of scams). Bloodwork being posted without a backstory does nothing to tell us what compounds are being used, what doses, what AIs, Prolactin controls, etc.
it also does not allow for a discussion about how one feels while on the cycle, which is a huge factor in my opinion. This partially stems from my own experience with bad gear, but my labs showed the exact results one would expect while on cycle, but I was in excruciating pain, fever, etc.
We should leave bloodwork and the associated experience to members IMO. If they want to share, excellent, if not, it's their right as well.
AnonIt's up because we want to hear how you guys feel about it
Understandable and I appreciate giving us a voice. I only meant to convey that this type of behavior seems to be counterproductive to the intent of this forum, because by doing so sources can to some degree skew the market to their own accord. i can understand that perhaps the intent of sources was to help make informed decisions, but I can't help but feel the alterior motives trump the perceived intent. This is a business after all, and the main driving force is profit.
Edit: those of us that have been around long enough will know that random testing always trumps directed testing (which this ultimately is), but I feel the newbies will simply look at the source pages and say "oh boy, this is g2g." And we do know that happens to be a huge problem with AAS use as is, and this may help compound the situation even more.
Again, I do appreciate you giving us a voice, and I apologize for going off tangent to some extent!
AnonThat's more like it right there
Thank you
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkGH:
Maybe the (multiply) "testing kit" results should be kept on the sources SI thread. These kits aren't being sold yet....and all the Serum posting of multiply test kits that are not available for sale yet just seems to be self-promoting "Hype"
AnonThat would be good
I think everyone is confused about these test kits ..yes the kit is free yes we do have to pay for the test out of our own pocket..these tests are not meant to be a test for a product the source carries they are tests to help the source find a product good enough to offer forsale to the community..when the product is found and forsale then yes random tests by members are a must to ensure that the same product is quality and same product previously tested...in essence these tests dont really need to be posted or shared with the community tell the actual product is forsale....they are merely shared to the community to let the community know we are actively trying to find other quality generic hgh that when proven it is good the community may be able to purchase....at that point i state again it will be on our community to begin with random testing to ensure this is the same product ....if the community doesnt want these search test results posted than thats perfectly ok just let us know
AnonI get that but That's not always the circumstance
AnonA lot of people have visited this post already but not commented.. Please, don't be afraid to speak your mind that's what I'm looking for here
Imo.. Tester kits to get blood work pulled should be outlawed!! To much room for greed there . Who is to say all the tester kits are legit the SRC gets a bunch of hype going because of the test numbers gets a bunch or orders and what was sent out wasn't as good or worse it's bunk.... As you stated before bloods should be random where the SRC has no clue who is pulling them on a random order to keep
Them honest... NOT SAYING A SRC HERE WOULD DO THST BUT MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.. Random testing keeps them on there toes so hopefully they put out a quality product on every order .. AND ANY SRC POSTING BLOODS IF A UNKOWN MEMBER PAID BY THE SRC SHOULD BE MARKED AS TAMPERED WITH AND FLAGGED FOR PEOPLE TO SEE .... Just my opinion
AnonI appreciate your chiming in
Personally, I don't give 2 looks at tests posted by sources at all....either mass specs, or bloods. However I'm sure many do and that's understandable when trying to decide who to use. I won't speculate whether they are honest tests or not, but I don't think they should be allowed. If this site is looking out for the members it has to try and protect the lowest common denominator. Newbs will undoubtedly give a lot of credence to what tests are posted by the sources. Let's face it, the sources do a good job of promoting their product....some do a really good job.
I think the goal of review sites is to have members lean on other members experiences to help them make good decisions regarding purchase. Self promoting taints that a bit, especially when so many have been proven BS in the past
AnonThank you for chiming in with your opinion.... Self promoting imo does taint
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkMan bloods from an individual are always better I believe, there is just more security in that. But as a community I feel like we are here to help and guide each other in the right direction. I may be a little to trusting in sources, but I don't think any one would intentionally post false labs just to move product. At least I hope not. That's not what Eroids is, nor will ever be. I have no problem believing what a source post, except edit Just kidding, but really we are here to help each other make the most informed decision about all compounds that we plan to use. Just my 2 cents.
AnonMaybe you are too trusting.... I know for a fact there have been sources that would post some false results... And we can't be posting lab names in here
iBeastIve always thought it was total horse shit. A top steroid and top hgh source love to promote themselves and argue to the end of time about the legitimacy of whatever they push. These sources half the time are saying their ugl product is better than the pharma grade alternative.
I think only members should be able to post bloods or lab work.
Those results would be slightly easier to trust. Even though another source likes to give free kits to test. Yeah the results are then posted by a member however its not a random sample and can't be used to prove or disprove the legitimacy of a product a random customer may buy. The kits being tested were hand picked by the source. Theres just too much bias in the equation.
Blood or lab tests should be done on a random product paid for by the tester without the sources proir knowledge. Thats a fair as it would get. Any other way leaves room for influencing the results by the source which is obviously in their best interest and not in yours.
DeathstrokeGood point! I always thought when a source posted their own lab test results is a bit fishy because of course the results always seem to come back perfectly dosed then a member post bloods showing differently. Many factors can play into this. Its hard to make an educated decision sometimes because I'm not sure who to trust the members or the source. I trust our fellow brothers here to be truthfull in the same way I trust a source to provide quality gear. Only one way to find out really is to test it yourself at your own risk.
Great post Monstar. You ever think of changing your profile pic to the Monstars from Space Jam lol. Anyways stay safe brothers and happy growing.
AnonThanks for stopping by.... Yea long ago a MOD did that to me as a joke
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinkbigmak1Are we talking lab tests from sources only? Or general members?
I personally don't take much notice of any source that posts up results for there own brand and prefer to look at members lab results instead.
The thing is the whole system is flawed in my OP and that goes for blood work posted also.
Let's just say I was on cycle on a certain amount of test I never even purchased from here ( this is a hypothetical question ) if I was a trusted member who people looked up too and posted my bloods up showing off the chart levels of testosterone and put I was running this from this source on this board there will be many that will take that as gospel and could potentially bring that source a lot of business even though I was never even using his own gear.
AnonYea .... That's possible
I'm aiming at sources posting tests.... But there again sources are sending out freebies to test as well and I have seen some results that raise suspicion.... I think the testing should be random
DeathstrokeAgreed