All is good about this Ed especially #4 but I'd like to discuss # 3

I agree that you need to drop your calories if you are coming off a bulking cycle, but if your coming off a cutting cycle then my experience is to slowly increase your calories while on PCT.

EX: You finish your cut and your down to 8% BF 200lbs and consuming 3000 kals and your cycle is winding down. Now the last thing I would want to do is drop my kals anymore because I am coming off, infact I want to start raising it say 250-300 a week till I reach maintenance (4000) on cycle or not,. prepping myself throughout that PCT and transition to a bulk.

I also recommend having a deload week during that transition to recharge for the upcoming bulk after a grueling restricted calorie, twice a days cutting cycle.

If you keep at that restricted calorie intake or even lower it on PCT then you are setting yourself up for a very quick weight loss and not of the kind you want. Seen it happen on others many times. Dudes get off cycle, diet goes to shit, most of their calories are junk, missed workouts, etc....and back to square one they go.

very informative, well written article.

I'm wondering, would switching to more powerlifting geared set/rep schemes be of any benefit during PCT in order to take advantage of CNS/neuromuscular patterns that perhaps weren't the main focus of the cycle in order to increase strength and size via improving neuromuscular and CNS firing efficiency? like maybe instead of doing 3 sets of 8, you could switch to 8 sets of 3 and really ingrain that motor pattern in order to become bigger and stronger? just a thought, once again very informative.

Excellent thread ED, and I'll tell you the truth I look forward to pct, it ain't all that bad and sometimes I make quiet of a bit of gains during pct. Research chem and pharma is like night and day, pharma is well worth it. Why make all them gains and chance bunk pct. Get you some pharma nolvadex, clomid, and exemestane and run some ghrp or hgh which will help balance the HPTA and bring you into homostasis a lot faster than usual. I've did this for the last couple pcts and I swear i still felt like I was on cycle 80% of the time. I was one horny fucker, my wife a couple months down the road said I don't know what you were taking but you was one horny fucker Humpnpump. Point being it doesn't have to be all that bad, some guys just get it in their head it's gonna suck and just half ass it and get research chems that aren't dosed properly and everything snowballs down hill. But hgh or ghrps will make a big difference in bouncing back quick IMHO. And it always helps to if EDs mobile van can swing by once a week and get a nice fluff job to stimulate the nads no homo.

What helps me in my time off is knowing I will be going back on soon.

Man I cant get over the welth of information on this board. Everyday I learn something new. I came here blind and inmature on the topic of juice and said shit im going to get me some and im going to do it no matter what well guss what that was stupid and I would have really done a number to my self. I knew nothing about pct diet time off nothing. Before I came to EROIDS I got took for quiet a bit frome internet sites and I was pissed I was going to get me gear and do it and I was going to get swolle no matter what. Me losing my my cash was a blessing and now im glade I did. With all that im learning now I will be able to aply it safely in the futher when I have learned more. Ive got a lot more to learn before im ready to start but im on my way. Thank you to everyone on EROIDS who help all us new guys out you never know you might just save someones life. Thanks brothers.

On week 2 of pct as we speak.. Its a little harder to get up early in the morning to work out, but i haven't missed a day yet and i dont plan on it. I should adjust my caloric intake but i like to eat and dont want to start losing weight.

i like how you say time on+pct = time off plus some and that its a pain in the ass. being still natty i was under the assumption that juicing was the thing that created the ass pain;) with injections and all. i think the lifting and nothing else but watching your food would be the easier time. but this is coming from a guy who has not run a cycle yet lol, me. i love the motivational winning talk throughout this post, i literally tell myself in my head when im killing it in the gym. I AM A FUCKING MACHINE!!! Keep up that winning attitude and the sky is the limit.

I usually fall off about 2 1/2 or 3 weeks after my last injection. I put on bodybuilding movies ect and try to kick up my motivation a bit. I've always been the one to maintain muscle density and sustain killer workouts after cycle. What kills me is if someone notices and says " Hey bro, you look slightly smaller", I usually reply by saying " I'm cutting up a bit." I tend to shorten the duration of my workouts, but completely increase the intensity, while dialing into diet. I do however, loose some fullness, but dont have a drastic drop in weight. It's paramount to cycle off and give your body a chance to return to homeostasis, I couldn't say this enough! Great post by the way brother.

Great post. My PCT starts Sunday. Thank you

Good stuff bro. Makes it motivating to do everything the safe way.

Great post Ed, motivational material here +1

Thanks for the pep talk, first round of clomid starts tonight. I went in tonight and I could feel my new favorite fast ester was gone from my system. I at first felt a rush of sadness but then I looked up at myself in the mirror and realized I still look great and now the battle begins to stay that way. I don't have time to be depressed about the battle ahead. I did learn from my last PCT that I cannot stay as hard on the food, but you can't cut way back either, there is a balance in there somewhere I just need to find it. +2

Nothing but porn pizza & beer during my off time(at least for a week or two)

I kept reading and waiting for this article to take a turn for the comedic or macabre, but it never did. Nevertheless, I wasn't disappointed in the least. Great article. +1 I think this needs to be talked about more. It's not as sexy as gear or being on cycle, but it's vital to the well-being of everyone who takes steroids. This very well could be a stickie. Thanks.

Great article Ed.+2

How you train off cycle is what sorts the men out from the boys.

I know HGH isn't for everyone but in my experience it's a god send through pct. helps maintain gains and limit fat loss (IMO) and a great bridge. Possibly placebo but mentality seems to keep mood up.

Thank for writing this thread ed just finished pct on cycle now but I can always use encouraging words bcuz I had some shitty days.

It’s so easy to fall into the mental trap of believing that without the juice you are nothing. That’s BULLSHIT, and that’s how a PUSSY thinks.

BOOOOM................ Thats where you got your +3 from me bro......... REAL TALK

Awesome advice some extra motivation and even made me laugh. Favoriting this for when the time comes for some extra motivation.

It’s so easy to fall into the mental trap of believing that without the juice you are nothing. That’s BULLSHIT, and that’s how a PUSSY thinks. That’s not how we do things around here

^^ need that to pop into all of our heads next time we think like that. Your the man ed

I'm currently in PCT right now and No 4 is the hardest for sure. The motivation and drive takes a nosedive. Gotta fight through that shit. I like that last line +1

You can’t control the wind, but you can control the sails. You adjust, and you keep moving forward.