posted Sat, 03/09/2013 - 13:04
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I have been a loyal member going on 2 years. In the past 6 months I have seen Eroids explode! We have literally children talking about cycles let alone tren cycles( which I am not happy about). For the most part these people have been on the Earth for no more than 25 years which is how long I have been training. But yet there Karma is over 150 I have seen 1 member who is 20 years old with 146 Karma. What kind of experience does a 20 year old have to deserve that type of status. We are here to help and our karma should reflect our knowledge. I think its time for karma to be reevaluated.
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karma has nothing to do with experience. If you really desire karma, create a female profile and upload pics of your wife or girlfriend twice a week for a month. You'll be level 2 on one month. Doesn't mean you know shit about steroids, though.
You bumped a 2 month old post just to say that? There are 15 new karma posts but you bump this one? Trying to ruffle feathers?
I think a possible solution would be to preface the advise with a "This is what I have researched and it states...". Give the reader the understanding that what you are saying is not your own experiences but those of others. You could in fact point them to the posts where you got your information. This gives the reader the choice to take your advise with a grain of salt or as doctrine. Passing off knowledge as ones own experience is misleading. I would rather take advise from a veteran who has ran what they are talking about then someone who hasn't. However, I would gladly give a point to someone who actually pointed me in the right direction by showing me the source where they got their information.
On another note if you are gonna neg someone then you should post a reason why. That's like talking shit about someone behind their back and not having the balls to say it to their face. It's called integrity. I have seen people negged just because they didn't like the OP point of view and I have seen people get points just because what they said was cool but had no real merit as far as useful information goes. By useful information I am referring to topics that are germane to steroid use. Isn't that reason we are all here?
Logan, tho I don't agree with your post I gave you the point back someone took away. It's not breaking any rules so I'm going to uphold that. No reason why we can't discuss something civilly. There are people who should be negged but ill let the mods handle that...no one should be bashed, put down, and criticized. Ifthey are doing something wrong there is a way to do it constructively.
Thanks brother,I respect your opinion.
roughneck12X2
Anonyou got more then 150 karma points?...i dont give a shit, i got over 20 inch arms (make a good shirt)
All of those that downvoted are seriously fddd up. I think this guy brought a valid point.And has been cruzified instead of supported in the facts that are present.
Your an idiot bro your 25 and is cycling already, thats exactly what hes saying NOT to do. LOL!!
This is a very touchy subject.
roughneck12Hey ,now you can see some more.
Logan, maybe that 20 year old started at a REALLY young age in their teens - LEARNED FROM THEIR MISTAKES, and maybe that person does everything in their power to prevent other 19 year olds from running a cycle. Have you ever considered that? Who knows maybe this 20 year old kid got fucked up from steroids and doesn't want others to go down the same path.
Just because someone is in their 20's does not mean they do not have experience. Or maybe they give out the simplest advice over and over such as AI dose or how to PCT. Even if the 20 year old only ran 1 or 2 cycles, that is enough experience to help someone out in those areas.
You don't have to be 40 and ran 10 cycles to know the basic concepts. (Well some people it may take longer to learn) but what I am saying is karma does not come easily. People have to earn it. Obviously this 20 year old you are referring to has taken the time to help others.
Good shit bro... And hes supposaly talking about me like if i give out horrible cycles to 20 year olds. HA! This karma did not come just by it self... If it was so wronge i would of heard about it A LONG TIME AGO.
roughneck12Brother don't even sweat it. You got your points and that's that.
roughneck12Thank you brother for keeping it real.
Obviously the guy below me could not properly read. I understand what you mean .these spoon fed karma boys that just got outta highschool or these morons that have never ran a proper cycle and suddenly become the professor of Anabolics 101.How the hell did they get the karma you ask? Clickin and pastin articles or just plain buying gear. I have heard of these posers maybe most recent a mr PAPaSmurf who was slaughtered by a community display by Viking Mod , btw nice work!.
But at the same time I feel the the unbiased groundwork might be tainted and corruption might lie deep within the sanctity of this place which we call home. I feel like this little by little like a story unfolding before me. Its not hard to see if you have at least a fifth Grade reading capacity.So my friends are you smarter than a fifth grader?
Dude you fucking act like were giving out shitty false advice.. I WOULDNT OF GOTTEN THIS KARMA IF IT WAS WRONGE INFO SO STOP WHINING LIKE A LIL BITCH THAT YOU HAVE LOWER KARMA CUZ THATS WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE.
Thats because some of you little fucks are. "Thats g2g bro" and you never even ran the gear.You creamed your pants the first time you got a pack. I bet you got all your highschool friends hooked. .no sense with these minors that cant wait a couple years to do things right. Guess no one plans on having kids when there 30.Im sick of hearing these underage guys on here trying to get on cycles. Id rather not give advice because I actually do not condone this b.s.
I care not for karma. I only want you to realize this isnt just your well being , its the wellness of others
Bro i aint that old your 25? Lmao! WTF are u talking about..im abt to be 22 and i havnt even ran a cycle, im actually DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY.. I would not have this much karma is i was giving wronge advice like i said before, vets like VIKING, have told me good shit on helping out noobs with there horrible cycles so GTFO of here saying i cant give good advice just cuz i havnt cycled yet.
I AINT LITTLE FYI HOMIE.;)
Yeah well bro you're gonna catch shit until you get your feet wet. This should hardly be a surprise. I sure as fuck wouldn't want advice from someone who has never ran gear, even if they can regurgitate shit they read. I want to hear from the assholes who have ran it and can share experiences.
Dont really care bro... They will most likely give u the same advice i have researched and told others.
Get swole brotha.
roughneck12He call me out cause Mods hit me for running tren 2nd cycle. When I shoot a simple Ai question at him,he can't respond,lmao.
roughneck12What you doing goggle the answer ha. Also been hit for 60 point's for karma bumping. What else you want to slander me for.
roughneck12You a tag along, probably can't tell me the difference in a-dex vs armasion. Lmao.
roughneck12Lol,you one of them. Try me on my knowledge of compounds.
Shouldnt you be at krispy kremes? Dude get over it AAS is not meant for you just yet.
roughneck12That just showed your true personality. I'm done . I'm not going to get down on your level.
Bro dont be putting down someone like that, we dont do that shit around here... Do you and thats it dont worry about no one else. Were all here to achieve the physique we all seek, theres always unfortunate bumps along the way.
roughneck12Thanks,but it don't bother me.
roughneck12Total disagree and I'm a hot target on this site. But just cause I couldn't make it to the gym , my job interfered with my diet and meds held back gains . Don't mean shit on my knowledge of gear . They say not everyone here has the same goals. I see hypocrites every where. I've pulled a vet cycle off and didn't get vets approval. Not everyone is the same. So just cause you run a gear and get ripped up don't mean I will. I'm calling it how I see it from now on . I'm not breaking any rules are insulting people. So I think older guy's are more worried about the karma than us younger guy's. They love running lieing tell Mods I'm given this and that bad info ,but not not one piece of evidence to prove it. If It's bad advice I got it from a vet. I would love to see my bad advice. They say guy's are looking up to me. Yea cause I saved them from messing them selfs up. Ask how, I can tell you a 100 ways. Call me out on it. Know the treads really hot cause I'm on it.
Yeah its me again!... lets clear something up here once and for all............ You pulled fuck-all off bro!.. only thing you did was run a stupid cycle without the basic sense to work and eat to match the committmant needed when running ANY cycle... period.
You with your hard head and self-belief are nothing but a danger to yourself and others.. meaning if YOU cannot make these compounds work to give results!.. what gives you the edge to tell others how it should be done??... that mind-fucks me to think anybody would listen to you after viewing the child-like physique you own.... WHY cant you just put your hands up and say.. "I FAILED MISERABLY.. NO EXCUSE I JUST FAILED"... then move the fuck on instead of still trying to force your shit down peoples throats... dont reply to this post and dont hit me in PM either, i am just about fucking sick to death of reading your crap i am just stopping myself from hitting the ban button..... enough is enough.
Case in point my man. This guy looks like shit runs shit cycles and has 65 karma. He obviously doesn't have a clue but dishes out advice. WTF I am more concerned about these kids giving the wrong advice and someone gets hurt. There is no GERNERAL answer, everyone is different and advice should be given for that individuals needs
Nothing is going to change were hard heads are concerned.... just go with the flow brother and dont let these fucks grind you down............ we cant change human nature bro, but we can control our own frustrations, meaning only enter threads that you think you can make a difference too.. thats what i tend to do thesedays, good guys with intelligence will proceed to better themselves wheras the pricks with only 2 brain cells will carry on to fail miserably..... thats the law of the jungle brother.
Amen to that Viking.
guys dont down vote this post. just because u disagree w/ him doesnt mean he deserves it. Show em some mercy lol +2 to negate
roughneck12Go to my forms. Why they down voted my post cause they don't like it. But I do agree with you. But in all fairness he's talking about karma from us young guy's that put in lots of work here. But I respect you brother for it.
This is so dumb, anybody that puts in the time to research and read around all the GREAT info thats being passed on here and helps out a young noob rather then letting him do it all on his own and possibly fuck his shit up should deserve karma, you sir r an idiot.
I have to respectfully disagree with your post. I am 26 and I would consider my knowledge in the subject to be above average. I would venture to say that my physiological understanding of the subject falls in the top 25% here. I am not saying that I am a know it all or won't except advice from anyone but I am satin I feel the advice I give should be respected; I am not spewing out nonsense and will be happy to solidify my advice with scientific evidence should anyone request. Though maturity may be dependent on age I do not believe intellect is. With that being said, due to my age, you believe I don't deserve the karma I have earned? The idea is simply preposterous. I spend hours on here trying to help people, be a liaison between pissed off vets and stubborn noobs, post self pics to help with motivation as well as help anyone who asks thru pm's.
roughneck12I'll back you on that brother. Your advice has always been good and your progress on your body shows it. Your one of the only one's that I've ever seen come on my post and be real with out insulting me. You earned my respect brother. I've made a lot of mistakes. I'm not by any means a pro are bodybuilder. But I've spent over 6 hours a day on scientific research of compounds.
By high qauilty source's. I pushed limits and set a bad example ,not my intention's.
They say research is the most important thing, but when you come back with research it's copied. I stay helping guy's till 3am on simple shit like Ai, proper pins and half life. I'm 26 to. I think that a lot of members are slamming younger guy's. Thanks for keeping it real brother.+1
Fucking right Level my brotha! Thts exactly what im talkin about! +1 bro.. How dare he say we dont deserve our karma?!
for me, karma is about reading good educational advice or posts and motivational ones.
if someone posts something that educates me or motivates me, i think its worthy of karma, although im not sure how to give it out lol
I see karma as a dedication to the site, not necessary a number based on the members knowledge.
EXACTLY bro.
i def agree, big dog! this is a prime example of how that karma score does not necessarily signify knowledge or wisdom. it's really just a number that quantifies what's been awarded to someone by other members - or for pics - nothing more.
AnonGood point but at same time knowledge is not restricted to age some people take things serious and ask alot of question and do alot of web research alot with trial and error sir ! Even a genius asks questions and age is a number ! I know alot of people wise beyond there age ! I'm not at all arguing cuz you have a point to an extent but at same time not all young people are without knowledge !
I do believe young me. Should wait to use but end of the day it's like anything else they will do as they please so they might aswell get knowledge and some do ! Mind you you do have a % that don't know shit lol! They too will learn in time
Your exactly right celtic... Just cuz im young shouldnt mean i cant pass the right info that i have learned from vets and researching... If thats the case then why do they tell us to research? What they want us to experience it first hand and then be like "oooh ok i wont do this n that again"...why not just take the RIGHT info and run with it and of course research on your own and learn as you go.
IF I HAVE GAVE THE WRONGE ADVICE CUZ IM SO YOUNG AND HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE THEN WHY DOESNT ANYBODY STEP UP AND CALL ME OUT ON IT?!
I think papaswoles rating reflects the systems ability to work well and rapidly
I believe the system creates drive to keep this community organized and under control
It also encourages people to go and find or share unique valuable information
regardless of age
the only age limit we have here is 21 and up
Any ideas feel free to pm me bro.
I really don't but have an idea. I feel a 20 year old has NO WHERE near the knowledge to give advice let alone be at that level unless they are in college studying nothing but this for 3 years straight. I have seen lately way to much bad advice being thrown out there based on nothing but parroting and what they have googled. This is a serious thing and the advice given should be by those that know what they are talking about. People encouraging 21 year olds on tren cycles should be banned immediately. I know this is a web sight about illegal substances but there should be some type of morality still. Do we want the next generation to make the same mistakes we did?
I think at 20yrs old, a guy should be eating right, training right, and letting nature do it's thing, because you arent even finished growing naturally... Karma doesnt mean much really, when a guy hangs out a bit, I think it's pretty easy to figure out who knows there shit...