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Isolated Systolic Hypertension

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Started my tren blast 10 days ago and picked up a home BP reader to keep an eye on things. I have been taking 2-3 readings at different times of the day for the last 4 days and getting roughly the same result.

145-155 / 55-70

From doing a little research this is called isolated systolic hypertension. My usual reading when on a blast (not with tren) are 130/80. Off blast and on trt dose its around 110/60.

Im a bit new when it comes to high BP as I havent had many issues with it in the past, my knowledge on the subject is limited to what i have read here and from limited research. I understand high BP can damage arteries and plaque can build up in blood vessels narrowing them making your BP even higher, compounding effect.

I am holding a bit of water, not a ton but a little more than usual. Waiting on blood work results to come back as i suspect my E is high from a combination of changing Test brands and changing Aro brands at the same time.

The higher readings were when i first bought the BP machine, it has been slowly going down the last few days.

Test E 100mg ED
Tren A 60mg ED

Things im going to continue doing to see if i can get systolic to keep dropping:
Up my cardio even more
Lower carbs and salt
2 gal water day (currently close to that)

Any other advice on how to lower it?

Current support sups:
2g Fish oil
COQ10 300
Vitamin B complex
Iron

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Update:

Had my BP checked yesterday when i went in for my vasectomy. Similar readings as the at home test. Here are the 2 readings they took, about 1 minute apart.

140/62
130/55

0newheelup's picture

Anytime BP is going to be a issue, esp w AAS, u shld adjust ur diet w some natural combatants. Garlic, raw almonds, apple cider vinegar, and my favorite "Cayenne Pepper". While most of these lower BP through prolonged use, the Cayenne Pepper can have immediate effects. Cayenne expands blood vessels improving blood flow through the circulatory system. Anyone who cooks w cayenne can attest to its affects (ex.. clears ur sinus passages instantly.. lol). So its time to go donate some blood and worried blood pressure might be a lil high? Try a spoonful of Cayenne mixed w some warm water and honey before leaving the house. Something else I just learned also helps w BP and a lot of our 40+ members are already taking is Turmeric.

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Thank you for the info brother! I have turmeric on hand, will give that a shot if BP continues to be an issue. Seems to be dropping though slowly.

Unfortunately donating blood is out the window for me, i have an iron deficiency that keeps me from being able to donate per doctors orders. Hemoglobin is normal based on recent blood tests posted yesterday.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/raisethebar-test-e-mgt-aqua-dp-aro

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I had a weird event yesterday leading to me being unable to give blood. My BP was 138/118. It doesn't make any sense tho and I suspect it was because the person was a trainee and her overseer. Normally for the bottom number to be that high the top number would be 160-170. Plus I had no headache or anything.

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Interesting, makes you wonder how off some of our BP readings are. I had a similar run in when trying to donate blood but it was RHR related, not BP. They actually said that they only turn down people for high BP if its over 180/120 (or 130) i dont remember. Pretty much told me i could be one sneeze away from stroke and they would still take my blood but god forbid my RHR is over 100 and they turn me down.

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I had the same thing recently. They said it was too high to give blood. I told them to recheck it and they said it was even higher. I left and went to my doctor and they checked it less than an hour later and it was perfect!?! I just think they were idiots at the blood donation center. They were also very rude about it as well. Very frustrating.

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I checked it at home and it is 130 over 77 with my regular sized cuff which reads high. I am thinking it was close to 2pm and they just didn't want to stay after close. I am actually kind of pissed about it now. My friend is a nurse practitioner and when I told her the numbers yesterday she was like this doesn't make sense. The diastolic would not be that high without the systolic being equally high.

Greg's picture

If the assistants putting the BP cuff on you all would stop wearing low cut blouses I'm sure all of your BP results would have been fine.

vhman's picture

Aahhh! Mystery solved! Lol.

fusebox's picture

First off let's check a couple boxes here.

Are you using the proper sized cuff for your arm. Too small of a cuff leads to high readings.

When taking bp with it have the cuff and arm elevated at heart level. Basically sit on couch with arm on the arm rest.

And as oz said below is the BP monitor accurate. Take it to your clinic you use. Ask for a nurse only Bp check to check if it's on or not. I had one that read really high and it was an expensive one.

Good luck

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/home-blood-pressure-mo...

Figured I'd add this. There is some good info in there

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Cuff is adjustable, i think i have it at the right size but not sure. Will adjust and see if i get different readings.

Will elevate arm more on next reading

Next chance i have to get a nurse or doc to check BP i will

Thanks for the info fuse!

fusebox's picture

Yes all cuffs are adjustable. But if your arms are bigger than the cuffs adjustability you gonna get skewed readings.

I'm saying to bring your home bp monitor with to see if it's accurate.

The tren is real with this one already

press1's picture

Going on the tren definately shoots up BP and heart rate straight away mate - It's nothing to be surprised at. Unfortunately its just a side that I don't think you'll be able to do much about. I know when I haven't been on it for a while and then inject it again I'm amazed at what a difference it makes just in resting heart rate figures when sat down.

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I was a bit surprised at how quickly it raised BP up, but it makes sense due to the fact that i have seen body composition changes just as fast. My main reasoning for posting this was the difference between sys and dia. My BP has been up in the past but never just sys, usually both. Sounds like its nothing to be too concerned about right now but i will continue to monitor and see if it gets better/worst. Curious to see how much it drops and how quickly once i stop the tren in 4 weeks.

johnmarshall12's picture

Beta blockers lower systolic BP for cases of isolated systolic pressure! Cardio is also good!

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Thank you John! BP should drop back to my normal ranges when im done.

Ozninjaguy's picture

2 gal of water? That's about 4 times the daily requirement. Supplements like Berberine and NAC are proven by research to lower BP. I take both along with my heart meds.

OTC BP machines can be very inaccurate - one of the best brands is Omron, they are recommended by the Docs here, however it is best to use them as a guide to fluctuations rather than an accurate reading.

https://prostate.net/articles/berberine-may-beat-meds-blood-pressure-blo...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2721729/

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Forgot to add support sups. Currently taking COQ10. I also have berberine somewhere in my medicine cabinet, will add that to my daily regime. Will look into NAC as well.

I like water, and so does my body. Fine balance between drinking too much flushing electrolytes out and getting just enough to keep hydrated.

I read that as well about OTC BP machines. I noticed the readings could vary 10 points +/- depending on how tight the cuff was on taken back to back.