posted Thu, 04/18/2013 - 02:41
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How important is sleep
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I'm new to BB and just starting at 31 years old. I have a good diet and work out program. My hardest one to over come is sleeping. I sleep between 4 to 5 hours a night. I started taking peptides hoping I would sleep more. After 2 weeks, It has not helped much. Do you guy's think that not sleeping 8 hours every night is hurting me and Do you think it is that important?
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AnonSleep is very important in bb. I try to get 8+ hours in everyday. You need as much rest as you can get to make sure your muscles are well recovered. You can try melatonin it has worked well for me in the past really cheap and you get a lot out of one bottle. couldnt hurt to try. Also EAT! Check your diet sleep is important but diet is like 80% of the game.
I gained a lot of weight on serequel and it's great for sleeping but very hard to get up in the morning. After I take it, It make me so hungry I empty the fridge and pass out. From what I've been told it lower's your sugar which makes me freaking hungry. I do like it a lot and I feel like a million buck when I get 12hrs later.
WithdrawlI'm on seroquel as well. Have been for years. It's nice to not have to worry about being able to fall asleep or not. I take it right before bed and it puts me out. For years I struggled with waking up a couple hours later and raiding the fridge. It got bad for a while. I'd eat SO much in the middle of the night. Eventually I broke the habit and now I don't wake up hungry anymore. I used to be prescribed 1200mg but now I'm down to 300mg and don't have any problems waking up.
It's not just quantity, but quality.
I am starting to wonder if it is poor quality sleep that is responsible for my increasing irritation/anger. I can sleep enough hours, overall, eventually. But the quality is very low. I think its mostly rem and not deeper delta sleep. I am ending my (lengthy) cycle because of this.
most likely yes. your body needs time to recover. i notice a big difference when i only get 7 hours compared to 8, and if i get 10, im a straight beast, but i can never get that much. i feel your pain on this one.
I took a sleeping pill last night seroquel, I slept 12hrs missed an appointment and went to work late. lol.
That's alot more than a sleeping pill. Be careful. Unless you are using it for other reasons than just sleep. I would stick with a pure strong antihistamine, melatonin, or tryptophan.
AnonDr.s are starting to dispense serequel for sleeping pills now because of the addiction of Xanax and Valium. I think people that were really depressed were consuming large amounts of alcohol then taking the whole bottle of Xanax and Valium and committing suicide. I started working the graveyard shift and couldn't sleep during the day and was prescribed seroquel. I get home about 8:30 am, take a shower, take a pill and I get the best quality sleep I have ever had. Its expensive as hell for a sleeping pill but I am very thankful for it. It doesn't leave me with a groggy feeling and my feet feeling heavy like Xanax either. Xanax and Valium leaves me hateful and cranky... Nasty.
A friend of mine got on Ambien. He went out sleep walking, took something out of someones car, sit down on someone Else's porch and left his phone and cigarettes there. Never had a clue what he had done. Other people get up and "sleep eat". This is dangerous because they eat buttered cigarettes and raw meat. Then there is the problem of "sleep sex" which could be serious if they wound up having it with a child.
All of a sudden serequel seems like a good choice to me, lol.
http://www.drugs.com/answers/is-seroquel-a-sleeping-pill-24553.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetiapine
Quetiapine is also used off-label for aggression, Alzheimer's disease, anger management, anxiety, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, bipolar maintenance, dementia, depression, mood disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, suicidal ideation and sleeplessness.
Well-written and fairly thorough response.
Buttered cigs - ugh! I have read a lot of ambien funny/horror stories but this is a first. The first time I took ambien, I was in bed and started closed-eye tripping. A deparment store became a rainforest jungle and the racks of clothes I was looking at transformed into lush trees and vines that enveloped me. In a pleasant way. Subsewuent doses of ambien and lunesta were fairly humdrum.
If you want a very inexpnsive ource for quetipine, look into Indian pharmacies.
There is one standout possible side-effect that you failed to mention. TD.
testaholicWhat do u think id keeping you from sleeping? I kno for me personally if I run a recurrent amount of tren (600-800mg) it fucks with my sleep bad. Alot of waking up then going back to sleep if I can
I do fight to stay awake in class but at work when I'm moving. I feel good, I will try for 7 to 8hrs from now on.
Thanks for your help gentlemen.
8 hrs is good I sleep as much as possible. I heard Coleman say he only sleeps 6 -7 hrs a night and look at him
It depends a lot on if you feel rested. If you are always dead tired than yes it will affect you greatly. You will not get as good of a workout or have time to recover. If I don't sleep a minimum of 7 hours forget it. But I have noticed after 30 I seem to need a hell of a lot more protein just to maintain muscle let alone make it and yes I do eat a lot for the most part good
I mean to say, How important is 8hrs sleep vs 4hrs sleep, While working out? Could not sleeping 8hrs have a serious impact on my recovery from working out 5 day a week? If so how much would you guys say?
If you're talking about the difference between 7,8, or 9 hours of sleep I believe the science shows that it has more to do with the individual and their particular "genetic" requirements.
If you're literally talking about getting only 4 hours of sleep then I think you are partially sleep deprived and it does seriously affect you, whether you are working out or not.
People who are partially sleep deprived can't even tell how it is affecting their reasoning and motor skills.
Your body releases HGH when you sleep and is more effective in repairing and healing itself. Sleep will improve your immune system and lower your blood pressure as well -important when on cycle.
I started taking ambien because I had trouble falling asleep and remaining asleep. Fifteen minutes after taking it every night I am out and sleep for eight hours without waking. I do not feel sluggish the next day either.
Sleeping as much as needed is important for the test/gh to help repair/increase muscle. I do not think everybody actually needs a set amount of sleep that applies to everyone. Some people will need more sleep while others would need less.
AnonCan I ask you whoy you are only getting 4-5 hours of sleep a night? What is your daily routine of things? Lets see if we can help ya get started on a new sleeping regimine
I've been very thin my whole life. I lifted a little in my 20's. I could never break 170lb. I'm 6.0', I'm going back at it, My diet is cleaner now but I would eat like a horse in my 20's and couldn't get big and after a while I quit.. I heard some people say it's important for recovery but I'm lucky if I get 4hrs a night really. I was just wondering if this is hurting me. Like if you workout all day and don't eat. It would be worthless, For gaining weight anyways.
Taking a ZMA before bed on empty stomach might help. Have you always only slept that much? Do you feel tired? Stressed? Some people I know honestly say they only need 5 hours and feel fine, so I'm not quick to say anything, everyone's different. I personally do better on 9.5 hrs. But most nights get about 8.
If your stressed and tired though it will destroy your growth for a number of reasons..
waltrsleep is when the body grows, personally since i have trouble falling asleep i take diphenhydramine, usually 50-75mg and in 1 1/2 - 2 hours i'm asleep and stay asleep for a solid 8 hours. diphenhydramine is an OTC antihistamine that has the side effect of making one tired. I do feel slightly groggy when i wake up in the morning for the first 15 minutes or so though
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diphenhydramine HCI 25mg is sold both as a sleep aid and antihistamine