posted Sun, 07/21/2013 - 10:00
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hcg...prlonged use after pct.
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have a friend who is still taking hcg on a daily usage and has been off aas for a month and a half im not experienced enough to b able to tell him that that cannot b good or bad...so pls vets explain to me if that is good or bad and why..much appreciated...from my experience i only use four weeks before my cycle ends and then start clomid and nova...i could b wrong thats y im asking....
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AnonTell him to discontinue use, there is a grey area about timing and dosage but one thing is certain. His testes will become desensitised to LH and that wil cause him a hell of a lot more problems than fighting off estro issues
it helps reduce testicular atrophy during cycle which is the only reason why i use it . i seen ppl blast it after cycle before and after pct, some people use clomid and hcg for pct and they claim that it works. just gotta make sure u use an ai w/ it. but no body needs to blast hcg for that long maximum 21-25 days
AnonI use HCG regularly. It makes very good sense for me, it keeps my nuts hanging where they should and works toward libido. It does cause a rise in Estro though, and your body will get used to it and no longer respond. I normally take it for 2 or 3 weeks and then take a break. Im sure 4 weeks is no problem and will do him or you no harm. but I dont think long term use is a good idea.
Hcg on cycle is contradicting. Why supplement your body with synthetic test and then confuse the shit out of it making it think it needs to produce test as well. Hcg right after cycle. Also serms nullify the effects of hcg, so another reason hcg with pct is a waste if your taking nolva, clomid etc
I've heard of HCG for TRT purposes but that completely defeats the purpose of PCT.. The entire reason we run a PCT is so we don't need TRT and can resume life with natty test.. What he is doing is ass backwards
HCg sends signals to the pituitary glands to produce more LH so your naturally producing the testosterone, you would want these signals because in PCT your trying to resuscitate your test levels and hcg helps this by sending those singals to our brain "its time to produce our own testosterone".
So these trt patients using hcg are producing their own testosterone with abit of help. Wereas those on test E/C are being given the test E so their own system is completely shut down and bypassed
RustyhookerTrt patients use HCG as a "plumper". Meaning their nuts aren't working as they're on TRT. On trt is like being on cycle at low doses for life. So testicular atrophy is part of that scenario. Using hcg is going to plump their shriveled nuts so trt hcg is for aesthetics.
The entire point of PCT is to NOT need TRT or any kind of help after and produce hormones naturally.. Prolonged use AFTER pct of HCG or clomid will do no good for someone trying to go natty.. If I'm going to stay on drugs I'd rather just take testosterone
I said its good for pct not prelonged use. So your saying to not use clomid or hcg in pct? Clomid is a trt drug also.
I wouldn't use both at the same time.. I blast HCG a week before PCT then run clomid nolva and possibly aromasin.. But I am finding raising nolva dosage instead of using aro works better in my case.. After PCT I stay the hell away from alcohol or any drugs and keep diet clean.. I found from exp this helps speed up regaining your natty test
Sounds good to me. Whats your aro dosage?
12.5 ed does the trick for me on cycle.. It's completely dependent on the gear your using and the dosages.. Best to do bloods and find your sweet spot while taking note of the changes in your body whether it's your mind set, joints sore or puffy face maybe your back begins to break out.. After that you can literally play it by ear when dosing..
On pct
12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25 aromasin
100/100/50/50 clomid
20/20/10/10 nolva or 40/40/20/20 and low aro
I've started to only use aro in PCT when I notice my nips getting itchy.. If they're not itchy then I stick to nolva clomid
Thanks mate, i never see many people doing aro in pct these days they just stick to clomid n nolva but why not eh? Cheers.
They're just outlines.. It's best imo to play with these things and find what works best for you because every one responds to these drugs differently
I've met guys who swear by aro in PCT and others who don't notice a difference.. I find myself some where in the middle of them and use it if I think it's needed.. What REALLY makes PCT easier on me is cabergoline especially after a 19nor cycle.. Helps with the sex drive but I'll be swapping to prami soon to see how I respond
Don't use both. Use either hcg or clomid and nolva. Don't use both because they will counteract and your just pourin money down the drain.
A way most people on here have used HCG successfully is to blast it right before PCT.. I've never heard of using it after
yea thats what i do...he is in his twentys..i told him he should stop but he says its got him horny all tge time and his girl is loving it...but therez no way it can b gd for ur body and its ability to produce test on its own...i just hate to see a friend end up on trt in his twentys...im 39 and still do a pct...
He wont go on trt from hcg
he stopped...i showed him the post...told him i put him on blast...lol..so hopefully his natty test will come..we will see..personally i think he will crash hard..but i hope not...
lol there are other ways to raise libido that are less damaging
RustyhookerShe will be breast feeding off him soon enough.
lmao..for realz...i have to show him that post...fukin hilarious