posted Sun, 08/11/2013 - 07:03
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HCG WHILE ON CYCLE!
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Im confuse, someone told me i should run HCG the beginning of the cycle. should be taking 12500 IU every week. so could you tell me all the pro in here, if that true, in other hand they said only taking hcg 4weeks maximum.
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start low and assess before you jump on 12500...you might not need it even
What dosage you recomend !? I will only use on my last 4weeks of cycle'!
That's a ridiculous amount. 250iu twice a week. Start on week 4, go through to 3 or 4 days before pct.
? What the f*** you talking about?
Relax homie. I'm saying it's completely un-necessary. 250 iu 2x/wk (or every 3 days as I do) is enough to get your own test to be produced. The much higher dose you stated will be a waste. Unless it was a just a typo, 12500 iu is a ridiculous amount.
Anoneasy with the "what the fuck"s untill you get to know someone. And what he means is Twelve Thousand Five Hundred ius is a riduculous doseage.
X2!
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/hcg-what-is-it...
AnonIm with Pank on the hcg, we have always agreed on the useage of this compound. I do run it a little different though. I will run 2-4 week blasts at 500ius every 4th day . As far as your number above Im guessing that was just some kind of typo , because that would be 2 and a half bottles/amps a week .
There is some truth to running HCG for a maximum length of time though, your body will stop responding to it if you run it too long.
Generally I recommend two things as indicators , how are your balls hanging, and hows the libido ? If both are fine then keep the HCG for when you need it. No need to just add it in for the hell of it.
As right now, they're normal. My libidos is normal, actually my cycle will start in next few weeks, because I'm still waiting for my hcg to come in. But everything is set. Just getting more info about hcg, because I haven't done hcg. I only use serm. That's it
AnonSo sorry if this is something you know, but underneath I thought I saw you ask how to use it.
It must be reconstituted with bacteriostatic water. I prefer to dilute my hcg with 5ml water per 5000iu, then my injections are 1/2 ml for 500iu. But you can figure out what works best for you. Also I use an insulin pin to inject. I have used a big 1.5 23 gauge too, but its just not needed .
oh another tip is I always order one extra bottle/amp than I need to squirt it on to a pregnancy test to see if its good. Unfortunately bad HCG is not rare .
Little lost in here, you mean I mix it in water? And put it back in vial. ? I bought 1vial 5000iu hcg.
AnonIt will come as a lypholized powder (think thats right ) any way it will come as a dry white hockey puck in the bottom of the vial. You need to use bacteriostatic water which you inject in to the vial. This will reconstitute the HCG back in to an injectable liquid. How much water you use obviously affects the concentration of the liquid. If you only use 1ml total then the 10 mark on an insulin syringe will be 500 ius.
Ya follow ?
Yeah that's makes sense. But where can I get water? And every inject on insulin should be on muscle injection site?
Anontop of the page, sources tab / accessory shops , you'll find the water.
inject the hcg sub q or im doesnt seem to matter much.
You shouldn't start HCG until at least the 3rd week into your cycle and that is based on running say cypionate esters. And then the standard protocol given by expert endo doctors is 250ius twice a week.
Whoever told you 12500iu needs to put down the crack pipe. Now some guys don't run HCG with their cycles and do great. For me when I don't run it my FSH drops way low, I lose my appetite, and my libido. Also some get big estrogen build up from using it I never have and I get monthly blood tests. So it varies from person to person. I find while blasting 250ius a week 3rd week in is my sweet spot.
So this is my gear TEst e and Test prop running 1-15weeks OXY 6-15weeks Ai ADex .5 twice a week.
PCT 40/40/20/10 nolva
100/100/50/50 Clomid.
now my problem is how may i take HCG through my cycle.. and what is (FSH)?
FSH = Follicle Stimulating Hormone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Follicle-stimulating_hormone
What is your Test dosage going to be? And your anavar dosage?
Test E will be 250mg M & THR 1-15weeks
Test prop will be 100mg EOD 1-12weeks
Anavar 40/40/50/50/50/50 Ed
I would wait at least 3 weeks before using and I wouldn't use then unless you start to notice certain symptoms. Such as appetite suppression and loss of libido. Anavar itself is well known for these. There is not that much information on all the functioning purposes of having a balance FSH. The extra using of test is well known to suppress it though. If you go to the blood works labs here you will see guys after they have cycled with low FSH numbers.
So the advice I gave you is from personal experience not hard core medical data just to be clear. Also when I added HCG during my cycle I got a mood elevation from it that was very noticeable. I am not prone to getting high estrogen when running HCG but others are so it will depend on your genetic make up.
I am trying to be as clear as possible if I am missing something feel free to pm me. Novice runs the same protocol as I do so he can be a very good source if you go this way with it. As far as using it for pct I will let others who have that experience answer you.
What if I didn't notice some sides guring the cycle, should I still wait until I notice some sides and use hcg 500iu every 5days?
Well I would use 500ius split twice every & days. Personally yeah I would wait unless you care that your balls are going to shrink, if that bothers you then go ahead and take the HCG. Like I said many here report of not needing it, that is not the case with me. If it was I would not use it. Why take extra stuff if you don't need it? Also I advise you after your cycle to get blood work done, this will help you to better gauge how you reacted and where all of your levels are at.
I know right. I'm taking the same way, I was planning to wait my last 4weeks before taking hcg. And inject 1250iu once a week. Maximum of 4weeks period until my last pin. And start few days pct after last pin
Not a bad plan just watch for estrogen spikes at that level of hcg and remember arimidex can rebound your estrogen. I prefer aromasin but some don't handle that well. I personally don't think you will need that big of a dose for that cycle to kick start your natty but I could be wrong.
Yeah my bad. I meant aromasin, I think the dosage is low for Me, but as far my cycle will be long ester. 15weeks gear plan. What do you think on oxy dosage? It's that's okay? Or should stick with 50mg a day?
I think it is good to ramp up slow if you are not familiar with how the compound works. Every cycle you do you are going to get more use to the compounds and have to increase dosages because of that unless you only cycle very seldom. So I would try to get way with the bare minimum and get results so I can always add. I am not an amateur or pro bodybuilder so this coming form more of a layman's perspective. If you are looking to compete their are others here who could give you better advice. I like to use aas at the minimums at first and rely more on nutrition and hard training. But I have even had to increase amounts because of building up a tolerance.
True, some people they get result even though taking 40mg. Yeah I will do that, prolly start 40 then increase if is low, thanks bro. BTW novice tellin about the water? To mix in hcg? What the heck is that?
He is telling you how HCG comes it is a dry powder that needs to be mixed with bacteriostatic water before it can be used. Also after you mix it you need to refrigerate it to keep it viable. Some HCG comes with the water in a kit and sometimes it doesn't and you have to purchase the water separately. Novice was then telling you how much mls of water will yield as far as an iu dosage.
Got it. Thanks guys for the advice!!
Your welcome.