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MODELING CYCLE CUTTING HARDNESS

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CUTTING CYCLE FOR MODEL
1-6 Winstrol + Dianabol + test Prop
TAPER .5 ADEX

Monday W=1cc D= 20mg TP= 1cc
Tuesday D=20mg
Wednesday W=1cc D=20mg TP=1cc
Thursady D=20mg
Friday W=1cc D=20mg TP=1cc
Saturday D20mg
Sunday D=20mg

6-10 Dianabol
Monday D=30mg
Tuesday D=30mg
Wednesday D=30mg
Thursday D=30mg
Friday D=30mg
Saturday D=30mg
Sunday D=30mg

8-10 Clen
Monday – Sunday C=20mcg

9-10
Monday – Sunday C=40mcg until end.
Pct Nolvaldex 40/20/10/10

ANY Comments on my next cycle.. I'm 177lbs 5'5 age 24! i've been using roids for a year!

Undercover IFBB's picture

BTW how long i should run clen?

Undercover IFBB's picture

ONE MORE QUESTION WHAT ABOUT CLEN? CAN I GIVE A TRY FOR 4WEEKS ITS GONNA BE 1WEEK ON AND 1WEEK OFF. CAN I? OR NOT!

mujeriego's picture

Yes you can, do 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. Start low and up dose 20mcg every 2 or 3 days until you get to a dose where you can feel sides but they're bearable. Wouldn't go past 100-120mcg. Taper down the last couple of days.

Undercover IFBB's picture

got yah! thanks bro

Undercover IFBB's picture

God Bless EVERYONE!! Thanks for Good Advice! Its time to rest.....giving update next time!

TheFlash85's picture

how did you come to this cycle?? you have only been off your last cycle for 4 weeks?? we tried helping you the other night when you wanted to cycle oral tren??? cmon bro be realistic!!!!!

Undercover IFBB's picture

no thats my plan before for the tren, but now this is a new idea because i have on hand winny and my contractor call me he wants me to get lean up for the modeling show. but now this is my plan for leaning up! and full look of course. i just read this cycle online and copy paste. i might thinking this is better for the plan

TheFlash85's picture

its too soon for you to start another cycle!! its time on plus time off= new cycle if your lucky, its your choice and your body, but it will hinder your future gains, you just finished p.c.t from your last cycle bro, 4 weeks off isn't enough to recover to start again!!! plus running winny with dbol would be counter productive, and your liver values will be shot!!! like with a 12 gauge literally

Undercover IFBB's picture

THIS IS THE CYCLE OMNOM recommend instead of my idea. so would you think 6weeks off? im done with my nolva and now my test is back to normal though. i mean winny depot not oral.

Testosterone prop 100 eod for 8 weeks
tbol or var for the last 4-6 weeks.. I don't think many ppl give tbol enough credit as a finisher but it can really make your muscles pop if you're lean
aromasin at 6.25ed or eod run bloods to find your sweet spot
adex is fine too .25-.5mg eod
clen 1 week on 1 week off and use caffeine tabs on off weeks
liver support is a MUST
keep aspirin on hand for your blood pressure and drink plenty of water

It's all diet and cardio if you want to be lean

pct
nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/100/50/50
aro IF needed - IE itchy nips etc

TheFlash85's picture

yes but omnom didn't realise you only just finished p.c.t bro!!! if you ran your last cycle for ten weeks, and p.c.t was 4 weeks, you should take 14 weeks off bro, that's unless your going down the trt /hrt route, wich is not advisable at 24 years old bro,

Undercover IFBB's picture

i got yah!! okay time to take some rest!! thank you!

Roid Noid's picture

that was my point in finding out what you meant about using for one year, time-on+PCT=time off, 8weeks on, 4 weeks PCT= 12 weeks off

mujeriego's picture

Do you have bloodwork to confirm your test is back to normal?

Look if you really do make income and a living out of your physical appearance and body then fair enough (though from what I can see I doubt it, no offence). I can understand where you're coming from. If that is the case then yes the above cycle that you were recommended is what you should run.

TheFlash85's picture

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Undercover IFBB's picture

yes sir!! will do, this post will ending up here. thank you guys i really appreciate it! god bless all!

Undercover IFBB's picture

thank you though, taking off 6weeks i guess.

mujeriego's picture

If it's 6 weeks off on top of the 4 you've already had then good! if it's just an extra 2 weeks then it won't make much difference to be honest. I'm only saying this because I've had to make a similar decision and it is a big one. You need to be aware that without the proper time off your body will recover less and less or potentially not recover at all. So you need to be aware of all the consequences cause it will most likely than not become a life time decision that you may very well regret down the road.

TheFlash85's picture

AGREED X 2

Undercover IFBB's picture

okay this is what i use before test prop 10ml tren acetate 10ml drostalone 10ml winny oral 70capsule.
total 8weeks for the injection and oral for 3weeks run.
so my post at the top just example of what i plan to do but omni give me this cycle, So my question is can i run this cycle after 6weeks off ? or i should take off 12weeks instead? or if not. can i run clen by it self after 6weeks time off?

Testosterone prop 100 eod for 8 weeks
tbol or var for the last 4-6 weeks.. I don't think many ppl give tbol enough credit as a finisher but it can really make your muscles pop if you're lean
aromasin at 6.25ed or eod run bloods to find your sweet spot
adex is fine too .25-.5mg eod
clen 1 week on 1 week off and use caffeine tabs on off weeks
liver support is a MUST
keep aspirin on hand for your blood pressure and drink plenty of water

It's all diet and cardio if you want to be lean

pct
nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/100/50/50
aro IF needed - IE itchy nips etc

mujeriego's picture

If you have the time then the best decision you can make is take the 12 weeks off and then run the cycle. If not then 6 weeks off and run the cycle that Omnom recommended but be aware that not being 100% recovered from your last cycle might mean that when you come off again your natural testosterone levels might be significantly lowered or worst case might not recover to normal range at all.

If fat loss is your only goal then with a proper diet, cardio and weight routine then a clen/ECA stack can give you good results with little or no muscle loss at all.

Undercover IFBB's picture

yeah i wont do cycle until my i get my blood works done! anyway clen is good idea what about eca? what is that? thanks

mujeriego's picture

Good to see you listening to advice brother. Very refreshing to see Smile

It's ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin. You run it on your off weeks from clen while your receptors freshen up. It's very effective for fat loss and gives energy.

Undercover IFBB's picture

okay i get it. caffeine and aspirin i know where can i find those. but the ephedrine ? what the heck is that? can i buy that somewhere in store? i though that medicine is ban?

Roid Noid's picture

it is but you can still get it at the store you just have to show ID, it sells under bronkaid and another name, you can also find it on here!

Undercover IFBB's picture

how?? to buy those? what about jack 3d?has epadrin

TheFlash85's picture

x 2

Roid Noid's picture

im scared to ask. what do you mean you having using steroids for a year? exactly how have you been using them?

Undercover IFBB's picture

im sorry i meant experience..

OmNom's picture

My head will explode.. just trying to get him on the right track now

Roid Noid's picture

the right track would be PCT if he has been running for a year

Undercover IFBB's picture

I was experience year using roids. on and off. of course most pct that i did take 4weeks to 5weeks.only but i only use 1 serm. thats the problem because i dont have friends or adviser to guide me for everything

OmNom's picture

My understanding is his PCTs have been only nolva up until now.. so I assumed he was taking time off.. maybe he did not.. You make a valid point. I shouldn't assume this

OmNom's picture

If it were me and I had something coming up

Testosterone prop 100 eod for 8 weeks
tbol or var for the last 4-6 weeks.. I don't think many ppl give tbol enough credit as a finisher but it can really make your muscles pop if you're lean
aromasin at 6.25ed or eod run bloods to find your sweet spot
adex is fine too .25-.5mg eod
clen 1 week on 1 week off and use caffeine tabs on off weeks
liver support is a MUST
keep aspirin on hand for your blood pressure and drink plenty of water

It's all diet and cardio if you want to be lean

pct
nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/100/50/50
aro IF needed - IE itchy nips etc

Undercover IFBB's picture

Okay i like it though. so could you tell me what is adex? is it nolvadex? aromasin what is that for? thanks buddy.

OmNom's picture

Teh fuuuuck? adex? it's in your post.. it is an AI o_o
nolvadex is a serm.. two completely diff things

Aromasin and Adex are both AI's.. you just need one or the other.. aro is more popular.. while adex is a bit cheaper in the long haul.. I respond to both fine

I listed both in the cycle above to give you options.. You will not need both.. Unless you want to get both to see which works better for you.. If you've got the money then why not

Undercover IFBB's picture

eheh, Arimidex and aromasin is okay to do while on cycle. correct? if i have money. but i dont have money to do those both, but if they good for me why not. hard work pays offs! thank you sir! really appreciate!

OmNom's picture

no no no
Just pick aromasin or adex.. They are AI's meant to stop testosterone from converting into excessive amounts of estrogen resulting in gyno..
research the differences between the two and make your decisions to pick ONE
you one need ONE on cycle
I just meant for future reference it would be smart to give both a try at different points in time.. not at the same time.. that would be over kill

Undercover IFBB's picture

okay i will use aromasin on my taper but my aromasin is 25mg/tab .12.5 EOD Wk
and also i read your cycle im not going to use winny depot on this cycle that you give me?

OmNom's picture

Get a pill cutter for your aromasin at the drug store or get it in liquid for and measure it with a syringe (remove the needle lol)

You have to chose ONE oral steroid as your finisher.. lets get your basics down.. any more than this could result in liver damage

-Tbol
-Var
-Winny

PICK ONE ONLY!! Any of those are great finishers.. From my experience you will get a fuller look on tbol.. a more dried out look from the other two.. Now var is faked more often than not

Undercover IFBB's picture

i will pick tbol. but i have on hand winstrol depot injection, 20ml though. what em i gonna do with that then?

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Thats the cycle for him +3 bro........ im outa here now its all wrapped up.

Undercover IFBB's picture

Okay Guys getting confuse on this.. Can anyone give me good cycle for my modeling show. but i want winny depot on my cycle. and i will consider some test and some oral at the end of cycle. appreciate it everyone

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Craziest cycle layout i have ever seen in my whole life.... no let me reiterate... its NOT a cycle its just mad-hattery at its finest degree!

There is no sense in the compounds being used here, also synergy is non-existant and whats with the 20mg prop ???????????????? you certainly got me head-fucked here bro and ive seen some major cluster fuck cycles in my years in this game.

I just flashed the screen over to suzy b and shes shaking her head in disbelief too.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

aaah yeah i see that now bro... the layout is not the norm, but you caught that right... 10wks on d/bol whooohooo.... liver pate anyone!!

Undercover IFBB's picture

yeah! thats what i meant !! thanks bro

Undercover IFBB's picture

No sir, 20mg of Dbol but they suggesting Tbol instead of Dbol. 20mg ED and EOD prop and Winny 100mg
so 600mg a week combine! sorry sir, im kind a noob in this thing trying to get advice from the pro! appreciate it your concern.

Undercover IFBB's picture

Thank you guys for your Advice, appreciate it really. Blum 3

Pelon's picture

I don't like your cycle at all. Only using for one year and already going to use 2 orals? D bol for a model? Pct is garbage too. What other cycle have you run???