fake chinese HGH
hey guys, i have been doing a ton of research on HGH, the cost of production, what to look for in blood tests, how to at home preg test (hcg), ETC...i stumbled across an old thread that also helps to confirm my suspicions, you see 100 ius of HGH would cost a manufacterer around 70$ per 100 ius if they had a good reliable bulk order source for the raws needed...that said, after packaging, advertising, and paying employees, i have no idea how some sources can afford to sell hgh for 90$ a kit...if you are using 90$ "HGH" i urge you to piss on a pregnancy test, bet you show up positive, "BUT NG! i have numb hands and sore joints...i know my shits real" do you? again i urge you to piss on a pregnancy test, even if it shows up negative, pay the 120$ for a REAL blood test, and check your igf-1 levels, bet they are astoundingly low for being on HGH...remember guys china is the counterfiet capital of the world...if the government cannot tell the difference between real and fake apple stores (not the fruit apple for you non-tech-sensible individuals) how hard would it be to fake some white powder? again i urge you to have a read http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?436935-Chinese-HGH-concerns
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tread-mYou wouldnt have to piss on it, just drop product on the preg test, unless you just enjoy pissing on things..lol. It actually becomes much less likely that you would find hcg being more expensive than much lower strand peps. The difference is in how they mix. if you have used all the products we are referring to you know how they mix. For example good hgh will take a bit with cold bac water. Peps at 40 strands will mix, literally, instantly. I like the idea of doing the homework and igf-1 tests etc but also think about the above. When discussing the 70 dollar value above I believe you are talking US dollars. To put that in perspective, my brother when in China just a few years ago, about 3 I think, hired a cab driver to be his personal driver for the entire day for less than a single cab ride in NY. He could eat 5 star for around 25 bucks a couple....so what is 70 US in China? Serious question because I dont know and I dont mean the conversion necessarily I mean how many apples can you get in China for 70 bucks when compared to US because the actual conversion probably does not reflect that fully. I only respond because I think there is a lot of quality HGH from China while knowing there is some garbage coming from there as well...So yes, testing is a good idea...hcg was the old scam though and there are much cheaper ways to fake it now (still do it though,preg test is cheap!), ....good post though, just wanted a little perspective added to it. I will say again though, if you add cold bac from the fridge to your hgh to reconstitute and it literally disappears instantly, be very suspicious...it should take at least 15 to 30 seconds to begin to fully mix and even up to a minute or so. Do your IGf-1 tests, its a good idea for this reason and for guidance on usage.
So your sayin buy a preg test and what you thinks is enough 2iu's? Straight from the syringe and if its positive that means we have hcg?
Anonyou don't even need that much... a drop should tell you..
tread-mAnd then when you finish and get your results you can still pee on it for fun! I DO!
Northern Geareverything and everyone is a fire hydrant in this dogs world ;)
tread-mThat means you could have some hcg but no test as to how much, I dont want to see any! Lol. The process is so easy to catch that most fakers found other things including much cheaper peptides which will instantly dissolve. I have enough experience wiith peptides to tell but most dont peps are still kind of exotic and not used by many really. Catching on though as they begin to find more and better combinations.
it's funny you post this. Just the other day I said to myself, wow hgh is getting much more affordable these days!! I think i'll hold out until I see some blood tests. Nice looking out NG.
Northern Gearno worries ;)
AnonThanks Northern, it does pay to be careful and blood tests are an important piece of using gear and the ancillaries
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkThanks i was waiting for that answer ;)
So should i go to my doc and have my igf-1 level tasted and when i start my H go back in a couple of weeks and have it checked again? Then we should know if its legit or not, you got me worried cuz i ordered a few kits and the reason i did was because.of the price,
tread-mAlpha I would work it a little different. Have your pre-test done now. Hgh is complicated and so let me give you my simple solution here. First of all be sure you are running test as you begin the hgh. If you begin using it for example and you have medium or low levels off natty test the body will dispose the excess over say 1.5 or iu's because that is what the hpg axis does, balance the two hormones. In that scenario your igf-1 would not increase at all even though you are using hgh. If you begin using test and hgh at the same time and ramp it up over 4 weeks you will see a difference in igf-1 levels if your product is good. So begin test at cycle range or even good cruise range and start maybe at 1 iu for a week and then 2 for a week, 3 for a week and 4 for a week and then test at weeks end or the following after a 4 week ramp up. To see elevated levels you would actually have to use it properly and without any direction such as this you will likely do it wrong. Heres the other thing, hgh is a VERY slow thing. So you may see an increase indicating real hgh to some degree and then test again another 4 weeks later and be even much higher than 4 weeks prior. Proper test knowldge is paramount or you could find yourself running around screeming bunk after running tests and the reality might be it was done wrong so we all leave dumber than we were before tests..lol. good idea though if done right and yes, please post source and product along with start levels and second test level and I personally include the test levels with it before and after given each promote the uptake of the other. Your hgh if real will cause a higher allowable uptake of the test via balance in the axis. Would love to see the before and after on test and igf-1. In that scenario if using a long ester I might run the second test at about 6 weeks. If running a short, prop, then 4 should tell you much!
Hi tred-m, Ive sent you a friend request as I have some questions to ask if you don't mind. I'm 29 and been running 1.5 iu from a good source and I'm female I just wanted your thoughts on that but after reading this my boyfriend also started 2 months ago running 4 iu hyge but nothing else. Should he be doing test too then? He's 31.... Your advice is much appreciated.
Just a little problem there, Im getting ready to off cycle, i still haven't started my H yet, its stuck in customs. I was gonna stair case tho starting at 1iu for 1 week and contine untill week 3 and stay at 3iu for about 2 months until i started my next cycle. I will be taking clomid for my pct.
tread-mOk buddy, I think I found the best case scenario to test in your situation and I'll PM it to you just in case you dont get back here...
tread-mTough situation and I have forgotten your age. If old enough you could run even a low level cruise. This would give you enough test to cause a higher uptake combined with hgh and increase igf-1 levels. Heres the other problem, being on test now your igf-1 levles are elevated . That is the natural response in bealthy indiividuals and why you can gain weight or benefit from test at all. As your test levels rise the axis will attempt to meet the need and produce more natty growth to make that balance. Let me think on this a little and I will cokme back with a good scenario. My best plan at the moment may be go forward without hgh post cycle and test at the beginning of next cycle and then 4 or 5 weeks in ramping up. The biggest problem there is cruising the hgh to next cycle will give you much better hgh results on the next cycle when compared to beginning hgh as you begin that cycle..yep, let me think a bit on this given there is no perfect answer in your scenario.
Northern Geari would definetly urge you to do that, and please post your results! i seen that inspector posted "after" blood test of his hgh...but we know how authentic his pics are...