Your right bro I've been a dick lately to people that don't put forth the effort . I guess we all started at square one and need guidance ourselves at one point.. Let's change the culture about being all about ourselves and let's give back

very well said, i can give some direction but diet is something i am not to well educated in. i admit i have a friend who has a degree in sports nutrition who guides me in this area, i dont really pay attention, i just buy what she tells me and eat it based on how im told. i really should learn more about diet and nutrition. ive been genetically fortunate with it, i can eat garbage and make lean gains. when i want to cut, generally i increase vegetable intake, clean protein, nothing white, no sugar and nothing with corn syrup. simple enough for me, but doesnt apply to most. so my knowledge here is limited to myself.

man i have to admit i have been really short with people lately bc of all the half ass put together logs that you see....i try to never disrespect anyone but i find myself often walking the line now to get my point across it seems like everyone wants to use juice as their crutch and i guess thats why i get so pissed off. i shouldnt be so hypocritical because i started juicing earlier than i should have and was in far worst shape than most people here not very long ago. I guess i feel the difference between me and those that I am referring too as that i have kept the peddle buried to the floor and have never let up. When someone posts something that looks like they have no clue whats going on I dont feel like they are serious enough in all aspects (diet, training, gear) to be successful and I am less apt to help them. In a way I show a little prejudice by taking this approach and its something that I will definitely look out for. I think it should always be proven that you have a good foundation both physically and mentally before you start juicing but i could be more effective in drawing this out of people...ill def try to reform my ways a bit

Hey! we do a special forum for you guys to flex at each in and not have to deal with the puny, lesser, AAS users... just sayin'
http://www.eroids.com/forum/sports-talk/bodybuilding-powerlifting-strong...

Good Post got some spice to it! We need more input and I love seeing advice and hearing about other peoples past history and cycles. That being said let's agree on a few things and maybe disagree on some others meaning. An example would be it's better to have something on hand if needed rather then run something for nothing. I love my Test but I won't start any AI until I run bloods and see if and when it is needed but I can honestly judge my body and know when I need to run some AI. Same thing with Caber and Deca everyone is different but its seems like people will add AI's, Caber, HCG like they are baking a cake rather then running a cycle. Again this could be where one or more of us agree or disagree but I just think in most cases when some one posts about a cycle in most cases they get a text book answer or list. Some one will ask for stats but leave out are you prone to Gyno? Are you an Ectomorph, Meso, Endo etc what are your goals why are you running this cycle, how often you train, what's your regimen. We all can agree its Diet, Training, Compounds, Genetix, Sleep/Rest, Water intake, Reps/Sets/Intensity and when you give advice give 110% or don't give anything. Saying that I mean you give a guy/girl 80% they will probably get at best 80% results. I will continue to add some of my knowledge when possible but to add to this post I would like to see more in depth answers and more hype for the shit that people tend to forget about and lately I have seen a few posts example from Viking that is key like putting on some winter bulk with some crazy shakes and meals that are in depth! The Tuna shake thing was fucking nuts but it's shit like that shows people the line between what intensity or insanity really looks like and what it takes to get there!

I agree but the irony here is this...
i only see people in this thread so far that this post doesn't apply to, i have personally gotten info from every one of you.

where are the members whom this post applies to?

I was going to start a new thread but it seems the major players are here. Not often a thread in the cycles section gets locked. :-)

One factor which I think was over looked is that an OP may not articulate vary clearly what it is that he wants. It's up to us to cull the information needed from the post and to ask the appropriate questions. None of us (self included) should get locked into our frame of reference until it is understood what is being asked.

For example, if a poster says his BF is 26% because he used a body analyzer scale. Toss that info out of your head. the number is useless.

Body builders please keep in mind that a healthy percent of fat changes with age. Joe blow's please realize you will never see a six pack like a body builder unless you are extremely disciplined in your diet. 14% will look good on you 10% will get you those "popping" abs.

The word diet is misused by men. We are inundated with diet ads targeting women and are told to lose weight. Usually though, we don't want to lose weight. We want to recomp our bodies. We want to exchange fat for muscle and look lean. We might actually add weight doing that. So we must ask ourselves. Is this a 5' 300 lb man or a 6' 195 lb man talking about loosing weight.

OK guys heres one to test yourselves with............................ http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/honest-opinion-on...

I try to limit the advice I GIVE on this forum because I am constantly learning so so much. I mean like every fuckin day I search these forums, groups, cycle logs...I want all the info I can get and you guys know your shit. Well, a good number of guys on here know their shit anyways. I look up to a lot of guys here on this site, and I wouldn't know anything about AAS if it wasn't for eroids. However, I know that I do have some beneficial info to put out there for the guys who aren't obsessed with this site and constantly reading just to satisfy that thirst for knowledge like I am...and I will make it a point to spread any helpful info I can. I agree about the site being much different now...a year ago there were so many guys quick to jump on forums and help young guns out now it seems like everyone is frustrated and worn out of all the trolls and dumb questions. Seeing as how this is really becoming a problem...I will be less hesitant about feeding dudes info on good dieting and training routines and if it calls for it cycle advice...I don't ever really throw the book at anyone for wanting to cycle but I am very guilty of seeing a post and looking the other way to avoid the hassle. This site needs all of us, all helping each other out....so im ALL IN BABY!

Edit; Great post Carlos..sometimes you just gotta throw it in they face! Ya feel me? lol

Glad you've posted this. You have always led by example! I've learned so much from Gs 9902, Sexy Mexi, and now Carlos Danger. All the senior members can lead by showing respect and patience. I know some of the new young bucks can try patience, but if can save one by using honey instead of a hammer, it will be worth it!

Thanks for posting this because I could not agree more. I wouldn't call myself a bodybuilder but I have a ton of experience training, dieting and with gear. I find myself getting more and more pms with good but obviously inexperienced questions because they are afraid to post in the general forums. I also get a lot of questions on the SI pages because they feel safer. Don't get me wrong, I love helping and they really appreciate the advice minus the attitude. If I think they are off base, I will try to steer them in the right direction with some helpful advice.

The problem doing it this way is that I don't have all the answers nor all the right answers. If we make everyone feel comfortable in asking what's on their mind this will be a better place.

Outstanding!

I was a victim of being self righteous myself; for that i will apologize. Instead of condemning more I will contribute more. I hate to see myself look like a bastard ass fucktard after getting so much help from here myself. I will post more real science answers instead of righteous shit. But Fuck man, we are getting more 18-21 year olds wanting to juice up and I can't help myself to tell them it might be way too early to start this path? I just feel uncomfortable holding someones hand who still has breast milk behind their ears. But I assure you I will try and keep my composure. Sorry for picking fights for no reason :(

Carlos has a valid point here that needs attention real fast before we go on a massive downward spiral guys..... also i sense there could be a shit storm kicking off so lets be clear if i see this start trust me i will be taking the offenders out silently without a word spoken..... ok lets have a clean debate fellas.

I think (I hope) a lot of us would share but how do we manage not attacking each other or openly disagreeing with each other about diet, training and gear use on the same thread with the guy we are trying to help? Cause then I'm gonna feel - we'll I only have 40 Karma points - I shouldn't disagree with a higher level member who may be wrong (it happens) cause if that can't be managed - it will be only the highest level people that will ultimately be dispensing all of the advice.