Best Cycle so far
Hey all, first post but reader in the back grounds for all too long without posting.
My stats, 42 Y.O I've been lifting for 4 years. Currently on my third cycle. I am running 201 on the scales today and my recent body fat check was at 13%.
My current cycle:
Wk 1-3 100mg Test Prop EOD
wk 1-3 50 Mg Turinabol ED
Wk 4-11 2ml A-mix EOD (100mg Testprop, 100 Mg Tren Ace, 100 mg Mast)
Wk 1-16 50mg Proviron ED
Wk 1-16 500 IU HCG
Wk 1- 12 1.25 mg Letrozole on pin days EOD (Very Gyno prone)
Wk 12 100mg test Prop EOD
Wk 13 -16 PCT with clomid and nolva as well as HCG and Proviron listed above
Did a 45 day cycle of T3 and Clen (2wkon/2wkoff) with ECA on off weeks
Also taking 600 mg B6, Liv 52, Lipitor (normal script)
Vitamins, aminos and all the rest that is need.
Diet is OK, not crazy but eating well and healthy. No crap.
Cardio ED 30 to 45 minutes
Weights Mon- Fri with Core on Saturdays
Clen / T3 STACK:
Clen cycle:
Day 1-2: 20mcg
Day 3-4: 40mcg
Day 5-6: 60mcg
Day 7-9:
80mcg
Day 10-12: 40mcg
Day 13-14: 20mcg
T3 cycle:
Day 1-2: none
Day 3-6: 25mcg (one dose in the AM)
Day 7-10:
50mcg (split into two doses, 8 hrs in between)
Day 11-13: 75mcg (split into
three doses, 6 hrs in between)
Day 14-17: 100mcg (split into 4 doses, 4 hrs
in between)
Day 18-21: 125mcg (split into 5 doses, 3 hrs in between)
Day
22-25: 100mcg (split into 4 doses, 4 hrs in between)
Day 26-29: 75mcg (split
into three doses, 6 hrs in between)
Day 30-33: 50mcg (split into two doses, 8
hrs in between)
Day 34-37: 25mcg (split into two doses, 10hrs in
between)
Day 38-45: 12.5mcg(one dose in the AM)
When I started this cycle I was 196 with 18% BF I am now at 201 with 13% BF. I am at day 49 into my cycle. Gains in strength are insane. Physique is completely changed. Getting ripped and gains have been beyond my expectations. Lifting hard and working my butt off. My goal, not sure. I figure I will work my butt off and at the end of cycle see where I get.
This mix is by far the best gear I have ran. My results are better than expected and the pumps and aggression while lifting are insane.
Thanks to this forum for all the info that has helped me to be able to get to this day.
PS. Had bloods done last week and everything is running perfect with no issues. My boys are working well too. Had a count done as we are trying for kiddo #2 and all is well there too thanks to the HCG and Proviron.
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How does everyone feel about trying to have a child on cycle? Personally I wouldn't do it. Also it looks like you have proviron in your pct? Not the best idea because it is suppressive. Otherwise good cycle I wish you the best of luck! Also I didn't see what doseages of clomid and nolva you are taking for pct but judging by the cycle I figure you already know what you are doing
You really think this is a good cycle for this guy given his experience, stats etc? I am inclined to neg you for that comment but I will wait for you to respond.
A white knuckle cycle in terms of so much to adhere to! Me personally, find that type of protocol exhausting...even to read. I see this and picture a ripped contender on stage. Best wishes on hitting your goal.
Uffdaa! That is a lot of potent stuff just to get down to 13%BF. A good diet seems like a more sensible approach.
With all that gear and you are not into the single digits of bf just shows your diet is shitty! Just send me your left overs I'll put it to good use for my comp prep!
I m not going to pick on the cycle that's already been well said down below... but I am going to pick on that
^^^^^ What in the world are you doing on cycle with ALL that STUFF and your diet is OK???? what a waste of product and money..... you could accomplish strength increases and fat loss with half of what you are using a a GREAT diet ....
Do you even know what it is you are trying to accomplish here?
GRRl, dont you know when your running this type of cycle your diet only needs to be ok, i mean the drugs are supposed to do most of the work correct? hahah. Lets be real, with just test, a great diet, and some cardio he could get down to 8% bf assuming hes really at 13% now.
are you telling me that i have been wasting my time ALL these YEARS trying to get my diet just so and ALL i had to do was use MORE compounds to compensate for the fact that I would much rather eat OK than tighten it up and drop the apple pie and cheese cake?
I totally agree the BEST cycles are the simpliest ones ....
I d put money on a simple test cycle a dialed in diet and a little bit of cardio
Last time I went to the cheesecake factory I got apple pie cheesecake. It's not as good as it sounds though. I'd rather have a slice of each please. With some whipped cream and ice cream.
I like apple pie and cheese cake!
congratulations........................
Way to much for a 3rd cycle, this should be reserved for experienced vets or id even argue competitive bodybuilders preping for a show. Tren test mast t3 Clem eca etc, way to much shit, I know guys winning high level shows without that many drugs. 125mcg of t3? You nuts? You'd need to be a monster like competing at 260+ and not tall to use that much t3 and not lose muscle, not to mention the effects on your heart that is inevitably regardless of your size. Couple that with the effects Clen has on the heart, plus tren and the other steroids. This is bad. 3rd cycle should be test plus an oral or maybe one new mild oil like eq or mast or primo. Not the standard competitive bodybuilders prep cycle. This is bad.
After each sentence..."exactly" was my thoughts.
Spot on Iron, the op is not even at or under 10% bf. Throwing alot of chemicals into the body just to get there when in reality a well planned diet could have achieved the desired results.
With that said the op best go get full bloodwork done after this nonsense. Wouldn't be suprised if his thyroid is smoked for good.
There you go.............. 6 hits so far, you should get about 94 more by all rights
Exactly brother. And now no sign of the OP since yesterday. Lots of folk here asking these questions. I wonder what the point of his post was exactly! SMFH!
Ya this tends to happen alot, someone comes and posts their plan, we dont hesitate to give them the truth, they dont like it they want all of us to say something like up the clen dose or sounds like a good cycle, they want a cosigner to feel better about running it. When they dont get that they either lash back out at us and insult us or just never return. My guess is hes on one of the other more liberal forums right now posting this cycle and probably a decent chance hes gettting the goahead from those guys. lol let me see if my assumptions are correct and i can find it somewhere on the net haha.
Just to put things into context............ i wont be running anything like whats listed up top for my new prep into the 2016 season.
Clen and thyroid shit is not allowed in my house.......... period.
For sure. The only time I've used t3 was on a Tren cycle when my bloods showed very very low numbers and I felt like crap. It was a very low dose and it helped me not feel like death. I've got a bit of a strange thyroid. It goes through stages of being normal to very under active. The Docs can't figure it out but my theory is its stress and maybe General aas use related. I'm seeing them at the moment about it being underactive again.
Also notice the OP mentions nothing about his expereince running Tren which given its his third cycle he hopefully doesn't have any and then he jumps on this stack. No mention of prolactin control or a DA. I was trying to be nice below (change in tack for me so to speak) but you're right Iron has nailed it with his comment.
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I have been hanging back to see who would be the first one to come in here and shed some sense on the matter.
Good shit Iron!.......... i agree with every word bro, well deserved +3....... and if anyone else had any brains you should be pulling thumbs up into the hundreds for your statements here.
Everytime i see one of these cycles posted especially by someone whos not competing, we wont even get into the fact its his 3rd cycle i think of this picture. https://www.eroids.com/pics/a-little-something-from-32yrs-ago just test to achive that size and conditioning. Everyone underestimates the power of testosterone and wants to quickly jump and start trying new drugs before they ever even find out what test can do for them. I was eager myself to try out all the stuff avaiable to us, but as time goes on my goal is to keep it as basic as possible. I find if i make things to complex cycle wise the other aspects and most important aspects get neglected. My upcoming cycle will be as basic as i can make it, just sust. And im excited.
yep... that was a 10wk/500mg sustanon cycle, and i didnt even have the knowledge of stopping test a few weeks before a show back then, so that prep was done still full of test!! lol
i was still running 10wk cycles with test/parabolan when i hit 270lb for the first time........... lol remember when i told you that story..... stretch marks so bad i looked like had been Whipped,,,,, them were the days when a full gallon of full fat milk and 18 raw eggs was the daily shake because powders (whey) hadnt even been born lmao!
Supplements were Brewers Yeast tabs, Malt.. and cod liver oil swigged straight out the bottle
And who would have though that that gallon of milk and 18 raw egg shake would be far superior to powders that dominate the market. Im going 10 weeks with this sust cycle to, some may say its not long enough because the deconate but I think it will be perfect, maybe a little front load or a 3 week prop kicker to get blood levels up fast. Get in quick, smash the gym with more intensity then ever and more food then ever, no time to loose focus, and then get off quick. Thats my plan.
I like the front load with the prop kicker to get levels ... get in, get on, get out
I like it. Think i got my plan now
ohh............ i forgot my Dessicated Liver tablets.............. by the fistful for protein intake.
lol, maybe ill look into these. Seems like a fistful could be a full bottle. That could get pricey.
they cost pennies back then bro, and then when BSE hit the cattle all things offal related got banned....... i have seen caps on the market the last couple of years and they are now expensive, if i used them today at the same amount oi did back then it would probably be costing around £40/50 per day....... doesnt make sense to be honest when i can get a 10oz rump steak for £3.50.
I like a bit of liver, kidneys and chicken hearts myself but I must say desiccated liver sounds disgusting. I guess your were swallowing those tabs and not chiwonf down on them :-)
lol....... swallowed bro..................... they smelt like ass!!
That's an understatement if ever I've heard one.
Fkn right!................. you must have used them?
i used to eat something like 20 at a time 3/4 times per day........................ cant remember how many grams of Pro they gave but i believed they helped me bulk quite easily .
It's not so much the taste I remember, it's the smell. Bloody awful.
lol yeah............ sealed plastic bag, ....... the ones i used where like fingernail sized....... took some swallowing without a quick crunch up first.
yje health food shop used to scoop them up from a big hopper like dog biscuits....... used to buy them by the pound (lbs)
I get this all the time. I get accused of being old and not with the new times, but it doesn't bother me at all. I know what works, especially for 95% of people here. I can never figure out why people want to run advanced cycles, when they're just juicing to look a little better. Common sense seems to go out the window far too often with aas.
lol being old and not with the new times. Its called wisdom and experience. People are curious man, i wont even try to deny I wasnt their at one point, but then you learn, shit gets so complicated that you just want to go back to the basics. I think the majority of the time its becuase of diet and or training issues, but they wont admit that so it has to be because they arent running enough gear, thats why theyre not getting the results theyre after. cant tell you how many times ive heard that, " i just dont think im running enough". Its one thing if your competing, but thats like idk a few % of eroids, id guess that with a great diet and training regime 90+ % of eroids users only need test and can still make incredible gains with it and reach their goals.
True words. I'm on a real TRT and I look and feel better than I did running most of my cycles. I've been strict for two years and haven't blasted at all and I continue to make real gains and continue to improve each part of my body. I'm patient, eat right and lift and it's amazing what I've accomplish (at least that's how I feel) on a trt dose, especially for someone who's on the tail end of his forties.
It all comes down to diet and training. Period. If you can dial that in then the skys the limit. And the gains you make on your trt dose are keepable, made slowly over time instead of in one cycle where the bodys going to fight to get rid of it. Patience now, thats something your either born with or hopefully develop as one gets older. Ive become a lot more patient overtime. I have many years to continue to grow, it doesnt all have to be done over one big ass cycle. Just as long as i can stop injuring myself.
At my age, chronic "injuries" are just part of life. I just work through them!
At your age, rest and recover, because when you get old, some pains just don't go away. Getting old is fun!
@irongame, you are an incredible asset to the eroids family. Thank you for adding your voice to these types of conversations. I have learned SO MUCH.
That old adage, "LESS IS MORE" rings very true regarding AAS. Holy moly.
Thats the truth bro, id say 50% will come to understand that at some point while the other 50% never will and will keep adding more and more until they burn out or worse. Less is more regarding gear, more is more regarding food. A quality physique its build over time, not one heavy cycle. Longevity is key.
rocketballzTestosterone cycles only for this old man. I stick with what my body already knows and is used to. My body doesn't make trenbolone or anadrol or even anavar for that matter. It synthesizes testosterone so thats what I use. So far ive recovered from each of my cycles and Im definitely an old man as far as this place goes. Nice coherent posts iron. You've done your homework and aren't afraid to ask questions. Cheers brother!!
+3 from me bro
yeah bro, i also ran the same "mix" you did and it works like magic. i love it
Please update your stats, too. Agree with bros below.....show us a pic of your accomplishments...thanks
Why you run hcg and provi into pct? No ai in your pct? How you know what to eat if you don't have a defined goal?
I'm not sure as I've never ran proviron, mast or letro but are you not concerned about crashing your estro? Do you have prolactin control on hand?
Hey whats up buddy? Just giving you a heads up I believe you're breaking a rule (discussing brand names in open forums). You should remove those initials.
Sorry, and thanks. Done :O)
EDIT YOUR POST. ITS BEEN 7 HOURS SINCE YOU SAID YOU WOULD REMOVE THE SOURCE INITIALS. THANKS.
They're still there fella.
Welcome to eroids. So what is your goal here and why did you chose this layout? I mean it's pretty advanced and very akin to a comp prep cycle. It would be good if you post a current pic up. What's your prior experience running cycles? You're running tren and I see no mention of prolactin control so do you have a plan for this and did you check prolactin levels when you had blood pulled? Can you please be a bit more specific about your diet and training regime (what type of cardio and general lifting program)? Details of the PCT please? I'm concerned here as you mention HCG and Provi in PCT. Both or either are not a good idea. Sorry for all he questions but more info is needed to comment properly.
P.S. Good luck trying for no 2 while on this cycle. I'm genuinely interested to see how you go. I've come off and will stay off for the same reason.