+ 7 A troubling trend here at eroids
I've been noticing a troubling trend lately that a sr member opened my eyes to. Im not very good with the metric system so I see alot of posts with the weight in kg and I really don't know how much the individual weighs. What I've been seeing though weather its in kg or lb looks like this.
Hi im 5'10 85 kgs and 9%bf 38yrs old ive ran 3 cycles this will be my 4th. My cycle will be
Test e 750mgs
Decca 500mgs
Tren a 500mgs
They will say there going to run for 12-20wks.
This is just an example not an actual post I've seen.
I usually assume that he is really around 12% bf unless there is a pic. Also that 85kgs means he has a great build on him since this is his 4th cycle.
Now I would usually start with telling them they shouldn't run 2 nor 19 in the same cycle they probably shouldn't even be running tren. So on and so forth. The sr member opened my eyes to the fact that all these posts I've been seeing lately say they have ran multiple cycles already. The member still hasn't even topped 200lbs yet. This is what troubles me if he has ran 3 cycles already and hasn't topped 200lbs we need to shut him down and tell him he needs to stop running gear and get over 200lbs natty before he starts throwing compounds in the mix. I don't believe that reaching 200lbs is a difficult task natty. We don't give cycle advice to under 25. I and others I have spoken to also believe that we need to start pushing the fact that someone that wants to run gear should be around 200lbs before adding in compounds. I know im going to hear about the hard gainers and how they can't get to 200lbs natty. Thats bs and I don't want to hear it. There are plunty of diet and training forums that if they put in the work will get them up to 200lbs.
So I won't give cycle advice or tell someone that they can start running gear any longer to any member who isn't atleast 195lbs natty. I hope that after reading this all the guys that always give out great cycle advice will realize the same thing I have that a very high percentage of the members asking about there cycles and saying that they have ran multiple cycles already haven't put in the work that they could and should have to start or keep running gear.
Thanks for your time
Bigmurph
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This is where a picture can make all the difference.
bigmurphI agree with that like i said if they include a pic it speaks a thousand words.
Bro, of course you are right. This forum has the potential to turn into the biggest blood bath eroids has ever seen. I sure hope the members keep their cool. +2
No way am I gonna give steroid advice to an average height guy like me 5' 9" which may even be short stature I dunno who weights less than 200 lbs. If 200 lbs. is not a man's goal, that's fine. He doesn't need steroids to manage his muscle mass at a light weight.
I think most of the members here are gym rats like me in one way or another that lift weights for size and strength. I don't think we have a lot of endurance athletes, martial arts guys, boxers and others who would cycle for different reasons.
But, if I'm wrong, and we have a bunch of athletes on the board here that compete in weight restricted sports, let them speak now.
bigmurphI think that it won't be a blood bath. Like catalyst said there are some one offs and I agree. These are all the guys that I wanted to see what they think of this im happy every one can get there opinion out. Im curious about what everyone thinks.
I agree murph!! eroids is a board where people are supposed to be able to get responsible advice and it's not always what some people wanna hear! But that's what this comunnity is all about!! Being responsible.
bigmurphThanks brother im glad you're on board
You also need to be aware of their height when looking at their weight. Somebody my height (5'5") would have a very difficult time reaching 200lbs natural. Should be a fairly easy task for some of these 6 footers walking around though.
bigmurphThis is definitely a variable that has to be looked at but you and rusty are not the tallest guys and I believe that both of you could top 200lbs natty
Agreed, us midgets are a different breed when it comes to weight. Under 5' 7" 200 pounds is either massively huge or carrying a little bf. If under that height and less then 160 then we have a problem that needs to be addressed unless you compete.
bigmurphDefinitely weight regulated athletes are an exception
I'm considered severely obese according the BMI charts, yet I'm 9%BF.
You and I both, I told my doctor and he said it's old science that never thought about athletes but the average Joe.
As much as I truly agree with your statement. Most guys are looking for the fastest way to get big and not wanting advice to stay natural for another two years. So telling them this ends up leading them to another forum for info that will not be as good. I think it's a lose lose situation.
bigmurphI see exactly what you're saying but atleast giving them the advise of first trying to get size without compounds is crucial. My main concern is the guys that say they have already ran multiple cycles and still haven't topped 200lbs. Even i have been giving cycle advice to them without even realizing that there just spinning the wheels and getting nowhere. This is where im going to start telling them there wasting there time instead of giving him some bulking advice and dosage information.
I agree with you there bro. I try to help here and there but I know most will sadly do what they want anyways. If I could go back in time I would do everything completely different. So it's nice to see when people do listen to experience guys advice and not just do whatever they want.
bigmurphI have alot of respect for the guys that come here and ask for help and take the advise given to them.
I can't stand seeing the guys that ask for help then tell everyone trying to help them that there idiots and don't know what there talking about. The other good one is when in there post they put i just want to know about this i know everything else is on point talking about diet and training when there making no progress. So you know diet and training is garbage.