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Looking for anybodies experiences using Dbol alone, positive or negative
purely individual experiences
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Looking for anybodies experiences using Dbol alone, positive or negative
purely individual experiences
Enjoy
Sorry never done it alone
My advice is don't - Wait till the point where you are mentally tough enough to perform injections on yourself so you can do it properly and run some Test. Also research all your ancillaries and PCT meds so you have them as soon as you need them. My first toe in the water was exactly this - I ran some Dbol tabs by themself for 2 to 3 weeks and whilst at the time I felt pretty good and experienced the steroid pro's of weight gain and strength - as soon as I stopped them I lost everything and actually went back to a much weaker state than I was at before naturally! Then I woke up feeling off and depressed as hell for the next several weeks as my body struggled to kickstart its natural test and endocrine system again.
....now I get it...almost..
You should pick up some test prop somewhere at the very least brother...
Hashtag1981Stop being a pussy , run 150-250mgs of test e a week with dbol...not sure why people are so scared of injections.
I’d go 500.
Hashtag1981Max 300 for me
Best advice i could give is always keep estrogen at check and have letro on hand just Incase you get symptoms of gyno.
Good advice, at 25 years old you must have YEARS of experience and bloods, research, e.t.c. more then likely you are UNDER 25. Its a pretty fast way to lose your promo karma. I'll start it off by dinging you. Your advice was terrible, not well thought out, and could fuck his axis up worse.
I’ll be 26 this month....no reason to lie. I know I’m young but I am here to learn as much as I can before I make the jump to gear since I am natural and have been considering gear for the past five years but took advice of people on forums and other mentors that have helped me when competing....in all honesty I was just going off of what I have seen vets on here say about dbol...I was never encouraging him to do it and if I seemed like I was i apologize. I just know of guys getting tits from running dbol rather it be with test or by itself I have seen both so I would rather him know that you can get gyno if you don’t keep estrogen in check than to get gyno and not be able to reverse it. I’ll not give advice anymore.
God gave us 2 ears and one mouth so we listen twice as much as we talk. Always give advice based off experience as well as what you read. Parroting has always been an issue and its easy to fall into it. Karma has been returned. Keep moving forward brother.
Thank you for the schooling I’ll be sure to remember this before I am so quick to post my first thought like I did here.
Sorry bro! But you're going to get your ass smacked for endorsing him on his run of dbol before doing his research or running just test first! A little advice is to never give any advice.... at lest to someone who needs more research or aren't really ready for a cycle
Thanks I’ll take your advice...I’m not trying to steer anyone in the wrong direction. I’m here to get as much info as I can to benefit me. In all honesty I was going off of comments I’ve seen on here from vets that said similar to my comment. Lesson learned I’ll keep shut and just read since I’m not trying to lower my karma nor give wrong advice.
Yeah it's happened to me, trying to get karma up too!
Don't want to see it happen to you too
D-bol is great, along side test. Never never never run d-bol alone. End of story buddy.
Hey mate IV run dbol alone in the past (a few years ago) because I was scared and didn't like the thought of injecting. 6 weeks I Made some decent strength gains while on cycle but you basically Lose it all as soon as you finish pct. All weight gained was water and maybe a little fat which again you lose as soon as you come off. It really isn't worth jumping on because tablets are easy and you don't like the thought of pinning. The one thing I hated was feeling so good for around 4 weeks while on and then feeling shut down for the same time if not longer after cycle finished and running PCT! Seriously mate it's not worth it! You'll end up coming off thinking why the fuck didn't I just start pinning instead of wasting a good product that works amazing as a kick start! Don't waste your time,money and sex drive for a short oral cycle because when you come off you'll be counting down the days until you can start pinning. IV done it and would never do it again!
great feed back
Fucken YOLO mindset... dumb people like you it's what makes others believe roid users have no brain!
dont think you should blame me for other peoples mindset...
i also like to jump out of planes , so what, im a risk taker
A risk taker who is scared of the needle and doing things the proper way? Risk taker seems to be code for not too bright.
Positive feedback, nice
He would rather have no gains and fuck his liver up than take a shot. Quit being a puss and do it right ...
lol thanks
It's not recommended to run Dbol alone, due to the shutdown associated with it. Running it for 4 weeks will shut you down fully, and you'll be right off of it and need to PCT. The gains you make on Dbol will be largely water weight, which you will shed most of soon after coming off. The reason we don't recommend a Dbol only cycle, especially for 1st timers is due to the cons out weighing the pros.
Pros:
-rapid weight gain (not necessarily muscle)
-slight boost to strength
Cons:
-full shutdown of natty t production
-Spike of estrogen levels
-Most gain is water weight
-Any muscle gained during a 4 weeker will be temporary as coming off will cause your body to return to its homeostasis levels, and will shed any gains you make to achieve that
-Liver taxation
-Tanking lipids
If you really want to look into running a cycle, first timers are recommended to look into Test only. Are you choosing Dbol because on needle paranoia?
no needle paranoia, just seeing how my body reacts to steroids, have read very mixed reviews on dbol, some good if done properly ,the not so good seem to relate to water loss
Define what you mean by done properly? I don't think Dbol alone is a good indicator of how your body reacts to steroids.
The not so good you're talking about is more than the water loss, it's the fact that due to the nature of how short you'd have to run it due to the liver toxicity your body does not have time to adapt to a new normal state with the gains, and once you come off you're losing everything you've gained.
I honestly belive you're wasting your health and your money doing a Dbol only cycle, but you're already running it so my opinion probably doesn't mean that much.
eating healthy, keeping salt/sodium down, drinking plenty of water, i live a pretty healthy lifestyle i.e. dont touch alcohol or any recreational drugs,do cardio , i could probably improve on liver support and i have tamoxifen on hand if needed intra cycle and for pct.
i am worried about shutdown, which i believe will be around week 3/4, but obviously not that much, i am reading my body to the best of my ability.
all opinions matter.
thankyou.
We recommend novla+clomid for PCT here. If you take a tour via search you'll find plenty of threads discussing PCT.
How long you planning to run this cycle, at what doses?What is your reasoning for it, aside from experimenting. I'm trying to figure out what is pushing you to run a cycle, and why you chose this one, as opposed to say test prop if you're trying to keep it short.
Are you planning on getting bloodwork done? Do you have baseline bloodwork done?
If you're thinking about liver support, I'd recommend looking up tudca.
Running 6 weeks at 30mg ed split into 3x10mg, then a 7th week at 10mg to taper down.
24hrs after last tab I will take 100mg tamoxifen followed by 6 days at 40mg ed then 2 weeks at 20mg ed. So 10 week cycle if you like.
7 weeks is pushing it IMO.
Your PCT isn't adequate enough either. You'd need tamoxifen + clomiphene, as we regularly recommend here.
Nolva would be run for 4 weeks total, at 40/40/20/20 every day. Clomid would be 4 weeks as well, at 100/100/50/50.
So again, why did you chose Dbol over test P given the short cycle? What about bloodwork. Youve no mention of before cycle bloodwork, nor any intention on taking it during cycle to see where your hormones are at... How will you know you've recovered if you've got no baseline to compare to?
Edit: see you've answered part of the question below. Test P has a half life of about 4 days - 5 days. Test E has a half life of about 10 days give or take.
Seven to eight weeks,should probably have hcg as well,as nolvadex and clomid.
I can't recall (have it pinned on my computer) but I read clomid is not necessary or advisable with dbol only
Bro science.
I like this guy. He’s on the wrong track but he’s not thin skinned...
Just needs some guidance and to help us paint a picture of his decisions. If he was 20 something like most of the guys who post shit like this I'd be tempted to put foot to ass, but he's an older guy so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that there is some reasoning behind this, even if it might not be entirely correct.
I guess its the fact that dbol has a short half life 4/5hrs I believe, so I could stop at any point and pct if things did feel wrong. Where as test is 2 weeks , correct me if I'm wrong.
Didn't have pre bloods, but will have bloods done after pct. I realise theirs nothing to compare with but will still get a good idea.
I can easily tell you without your demand of
"Not looking for don't do it...run test"
How's this for an answer: THERE IS NO POSITIVE EXPERIENCE USING D BOL ALONE. None what so ever!!
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I don’t think he understands reality. He’s scared to take a shot...
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somebody stole your link...
No one will discuss your first cycle with you & especially since it’s DBol only!! You will continue to get the same responses as you did your intro .... I negged you for continuing this same stupid conversation after being advised of the damage that could be done doing your first cycle with oral only. If you want to continue to damage your body then that’s up to you, but another newbie doesn’t need to take this as advice and follow it!
thanks for the neg, didnt realise this was a communist site!!! and if it isnt then i suggest you take that neg back.
i am not looking to discuss MY cycle or by any means am i looking to advise other newbies to do the same!!
Its called research... so lets hear what others have to say without having to worry about you neg-ing them
What you are doing is not research. Its called looking for someone to cosign aka tell you its ok to run dbol alone. This site does not give out foolish advice. Especially in an open forum because as someone on your other thread told you there could be a kid come along looking to run only dbol and see this and think its ok. Its not. Its dumb. But if you wanna do it then go ahead. But you really need to do research, real research and finf out how a compound will affect your body. In ALL ways. I know this isnt the answer you want and we're not commies, there is a lot of smart experienced people here who like to help and teach but no one is going to tell you its a wise idea to use dbol alone.
Do you use dbol?I see a lot of guys on here use it as a kik start but I find it outdated.I can't find a use for it.I try because it's so cheap,but I just find other orals to be much better choices and non orals to be even better.
i am currently doing a cycle with dbol, i know its frowned upon, but i just want to test the waters so to speak.
downing plenty of water and managing to keep any bloat away, tho i have read that the actual muscle holds water too, which will be lost after cycle.
making some strength gains which i'm hoping i will keep after cycle.
what other orals have you tried?
have had good results with creatine before 2/3kg gains over an 8 week period,but this is my first time with any kind of drug , just want to see how my body reacts..
maybe in feb next year i might try test,maybe something else, undecided at the moment.
I don't use many orals,and never by themselves.I'm on TRT so I'm always on test cyp.I have used var and winny.I'm with the other guys on here as far as the dbol.I feel Like it just keeps you going in circles.Like I said I wouldn't do it but let us know what your results are.
i will keep you guys updated ,good or bad
Ive only used it once. And to be honest. I would rather the prop kick start. I kept my estro in check really well but was not overly impressed. I used a well respected brand 30mgs daily dosed 3x a day.