+ 6 The Great EQ Debate (featuring multiple esters)
This is another one of my crazy ideas that are floating around in my head. What i've tried to do here is to make the standard Test/EQ (Undecylenate ester) more effective by incorporating another ester variants of the same Boldenone compound, namely Boldenone Acetate. So rather than waiting multiple weeks for the Undecylenate ester to kick in, why not have an immediate effect with the use of the Boldenone Acetate.
Obviusly you need some form of Test in EVERY cycle, so í've tried to replicate the same idea with Testosterone Propionate which will be followed up by Testosterone Enanthate and if you wanted to, im sure you could include the Testosterone Deconate into the mix.
The method below of front-loading the EQ for 2 weeks will make sure that you hit a peak in EQ levels around week 3, as opposed to week 5/6 resulting from a 1 week front-load.
Here's one ways you can front-load your EQ:
Consider the half life of EQ for instance. 14 days.
If you would do this normally at... lets say 600/wk then after 2 weeks without any injection you would have 800 ish half life residue + 600 (injection) = 1400mg in your blood. This is what is actually effective on your receptors. It is slow releasing. In theory frontloading the amount you would normally have at the week that the substance is supposed to "kick in" will have it kicking in right away.
For the EQ you may do 1200mg for week 1 and resume normal dosing for the rest of the cycle if you're doing a 12 wk cycle. If you're planning a shorter one then preload EQ a bit more, but I wouldn't consider doing a 8 week cycle on EQ alone. (See: http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/eq-exploration-a-different-viewpoint)
Also, have a look at this thread, i found it very useful: http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/front-loading-vs....
A front load of EQ for 2 weeks will see your levels reach 1800 by week 3 and remain at this dose consistently. This option is definitely the best, although you don't peak as high, you reach your peak by week 3, and then that peak is maintained throughout the rest of the cycle. So this way is clearly the best option for running an eq ace + eq und cycle.
By front-loading EQ for 2 weeks results in peak levels by week 3. If you run EQ cyp alongside this, it is unnecessary since you have the same compound in your body twice (since both estered variants of the same compound) are in your system. However what i would recommend is an EQ ace and EQ undecylenate cycle, where you are front-loading with the EQ ace in the period in which it takes for the undecylenate ester to kick in.
Also, for a front-load of the undecylenate ester, you have the option of running it for 12 weeks (for example) since it 'gets to work', in this case from week 3-12, and with an EQ ace kicker, you have the EQ compound in your system from weeks 1-12 (aka. the whole cycle period).
However, you do have another option, which is to run an EQ ace and EQ cyp cycle, in much the same format as a test prop and test e cycle. A 12 weeker will be sufficient in this case, and the cyp ester will be valuable in this case too.
To conclude, to get the best value for your money when running multiple EQ esters is to either use an EQ ace + EQ cyp cycle OR to run an EQ ace + EQ undecylenate (front-loaded for 2 weeks) cycle. They can both be ran for 12 weeks and I am definitely considering this for my next cycle.
This is a prototype, whereby the AI, hCG and PCT and Testosterone dosages are irrelevant in this case...
...What i'm looking for is your opinions on this cycle layout, making effective use of all the esters available on today's AAS market while maintaining a cycle which is as efficient as possible.
ALL opinions are welcomed
Week | Testosterone Propionate | Boldenone Acetate | Testoserone Enanthate | Boldenone Undecylenate | hCG | Aromasin | Nolvadex | Clomid |
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1 | 100mg/EOD | 100mg/EOD | 600mg/wk | 1200mg/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | |||
2 | 100mg/EOD | 100mg/EOD | 600mg/wk | 1200mg/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | |||
3 | 100mg/EOD | 100mg/EOD | 600mg/wk | 600mg/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | |||
4 | 100mg/EOD | 100mg/EOD | 600mg/wk | 600mg/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | |||
5 | 600mg/wk | 600mg/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | |||||
6 | 600mg/wk | 600mg/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | |||||
7 | 600mg/wk | 600mg/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | |||||
8 | 600mg/wk | 600mg/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | |||||
9 | 600mg/wk | 600mg/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | |||||
10 | 600mg/wk | 600mg/wk | 500IU/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | ||||
11 | 600mg/wk | 600mg/wk | 500IU/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | ||||
12 | 600mg/wk | 600mg/wk | 500IU/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | ||||
13 | 600mg/wk | 600mg/wk | 500IU/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | ||||
14 | 600mg/wk | 600mg/wk | 500IU/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | ||||
15 | 600mg/wk | 600mg/wk | 500IU/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | ||||
16 | 600mg/wk | 600mg/wk | 500IU/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | ||||
17 | 600mg/wk | 600mg/wk | 500IU/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | ||||
18 | 600mg/wk | 600mg/wk | 500IU/wk | 12.5mg/EOD | ||||
19 | 100mg/EOD | 100mg/EOD | 12.5mg/EOD | |||||
20 | 100mg/EOD | 100mg/EOD | 12.5mg/EOD | |||||
21 | 100mg/EOD | 100mg/EOD | 12.5mg/EOD | |||||
22 | 12.5mg/EOD | 40mg/ED | 100mg/ED | |||||
23 | 12.5mg/EOD | 40mg/ED | 100mg/ED | |||||
24 | 6.25mg/EOD | 20mg/ED | 50mg/ED | |||||
25 | 6.25mg/EOD | 20mg/ED | 50mg/ED |
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Buildbigger86So hear we go my friends..... I spoke to play about this cycle the right as i had started it and he just had some general questions and he was super helpful. So i am going to be giving progress reports every 2 weeks or so letting you know it is going.
First of all i for weeks 1-2 i front loaded 600mg EQ 300 AND 300MG TEST E X 2. I wish i could of used to EQ ace but at the time the source who had it was sold out so i was not able to add that in.
I am also running 25mg Aromasin ED and on 2 I began taking 100mg VAR ed 50mg in morning and 50mg in evening.
I will start HCG for a in 2-3weeks and run for 4 weeks at dose posted above. I very much like this cycle combo. i feel great and my body is starting to really come together. The EQ has began to quick in and taken down bloating from the test. I am someone who gets very bloated from test in the face. Also the var was a great extra to add to cycle. Muscles starting to get nice and vascular and lean gains... Love it!!!
BOOM!! Keep the updates coming.
I would drop the asin down to 12.5mg/ED then bump it up if i experience any sides. Also start the anavar a iittle later in your cycle.
Keep it up brother
looks good. you can drop the nolva down to 20.20.10.10 since you are running Aromasin all the way. good luck. let me know how the Boldenone Acetate works for you. I've heard that it makes some people sick.
zewiI like it..
I like it too. I'm going to copy it. I think I will go test prop 150 eod and eq ace 150 eod. Maybe throw some anavar on week 15-18 to push threw the end of that sucker. Other than that I like it a lot.
Careful with the eq base. Has a good pip. At 100eod it had me more hungry than 600/week. Was suprised by its strength!
Thanks for your input fast, appreciate it brother (and good luck with the upcoming EBC final!)
I think an addition of var would be a great compliment to the cycle. 75mg/ED is my sweet spot and i would run it for a minimum of 6 weeks towards the end of my cycle
cdaddy7Var will b an excellent finisher P....I think it would bring u in nicely
I agree - i've finished my first week of var (on my 1-test cycle) and i can see myself hardening up nicely and my strength has increased also. Var is a true compliment to EQ and its derivatives
Good to know. Thank you.
Ballin! Nice work P.
AnonHcg and asin is a lil soon, huh?
Awesome cycle bro. You know what would be awesome, if you know who made an EQ-sust consisting of ace,cyp,undec ... Dosed at 350
200-undec 100-cyp 50-ace
That would be great, and in actual fact that's where this cycle layout stemmed from in its early days EQ Exploration: a different viewpoint, but after me and dossier31 had the conversation in the comments of that cycle layout, we created this cycle masterpiece
I believe theres a source in here that has that...or something similar
AnonYou know what's funny? All this talk about eq lately had me thinking the exact same thing today on my lunch break. Goddammit... All I think about these days is friggin gear!
Hahaha me to brother. I wake up thinking about my next cycle
It's when you dream about gear more than naked women you really need to start worrying....
Nice work P.
Prop 150eod. Hcg last 8....10-18.
I like it