+ 8 P's Cycle Adventure
I am finally ready to begin this new cycle below/above once all of my gear arrives and have already followed Vikings advice: http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/fool-proof-guide-...
STATS? - This is the cycle layout i will be following, and have posted this to provide updates to users interested in the following compounds - I am not asking for cycle advice.
Cycle Ingredients:
Fuerza Labs Dianabol Tablets
Viper Labs Test 400 (a blend of 200mg/ml Test E and 200mg/ml Test C)
2 x 10ml Anabolic Nation Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/ml
6 x 10ml Anabolic Nation 1-Testosterone Cypionate 250mg/ml
2 Packs Anabolic Nation Anavar
Natco Pharma Limited Aromasin Tablets
Fresenius Kabi Nolvadex Tablets
Cipla LTD. Clomid Tablets
http://www.eroids.com/pics/viper-labs-anaboliclabsuk
http://www.eroids.com/pics/anabolic-nation-mutagenics
Awaiting pictures for the Anavar and 1-Test Cyp (Updates will follow).
PCT
I will use GS, Cdaddy7 and Zewi's PCT protocol (shown below) for this cycle as everything points to a much faster recovery with minimal loss.
12.5mg EOD continuing the two weeks between last test shot and PCT
Week 1 PCT 12.5mg EOD/Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 2 PCT 12.5mg EOD/Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 3 PCT 6.25mg EOD/Nolva 10 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
Week 4 PCT 6.25mg EOD/Nolva 10 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/gcz%E2%80%99s.....
UPDATES
(Updates will follow in due course)
| Week | Dianabol | Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate | 1-Test Cypionate | Anavar | Aromasin | Nolvadex | Clomid | hCG |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 50mg ED | 400mg/wk | 500mg/wk | |||||
| 2 | 50mg ED | 400mg/wk | 500mg/wk | |||||
| 3 | 50mg ED | 400mg/wk | 500mg/wk | 12.5mg EOD | ||||
| 4 | 50mg ED | 400mg/wk | 500mg/wk | 12.5mg EOD | 500iu/wk | |||
| 5 | 400mg/wk | 500mg/wk | 12.5mg EOD | 500iu/wk | ||||
| 6 | 400mg/wk | 500mg/wk | 12.5mg EOD | 500iu/wk | ||||
| 7 | 400mg/wk | 500mg/wk | 12.5mg EOD | 500iu/wk | ||||
| 8 | 400mg/wk | 500mg/wk | 12.5mg EOD | 500iu/wk | ||||
| 9 | 400mg/wk | 500mg/wk | 12.5mg EOD | 500iu/wk | ||||
| 10 | 400mg/wk | 500mg/wk | 75mg ED | 12.5mg EOD | 500iu/wk | |||
| 11 | 400mg/wk | 500mg/wk | 75mg ED | 12.5mg EOD | 500iu/wk | |||
| 12 | 400mg/wk | 500mg/wk | 75mg ED | 12.5mg EOD | 500iu/wk | |||
| 13 | 400mg/wk | 500mg/wk | 75mg ED | 12.5mg EOD | 500iu/wk | |||
| 14 | 400mg/wk | 500mg/wk | 75mg ED | 12.5mg EOD | 500iu/wk | |||
| 15 | 400mg/wk | 500mg/wk | 75mg ED | 12.5mg EOD | 500iu/wk | |||
| 16 | 400mg/wk | 500mg/wk | 75mg ED | 12.5mg EOD | 500iu/wk | |||
| 17 | 12.5mg EOD | 500iu/wk | ||||||
| 18 | 12.5mg EOD | 500iu/wk | ||||||
| 19 | 12.5mg EOD | 20mg ED | 100mg ED | |||||
| 20 | 12.5mg EOD | 20mg ED | 100mg ED | |||||
| 21 | 6.25mg EOD | 10mg ED | 50mg ED | |||||
| 22 | 6.25mg EOD | 10mg ED | 50mg ED |
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so how was this cycle p, was you satiesfied with the results? how would you rate 1-test cyp?
AnonWhere there many if any major side effects running this cycle and if you were to run the cycle again what would you change?
Only negative sides that i experienced was PIP and that only lasted for 4 shots and was minimal PIP at best! Other sides, were impressive gains, I leaned out, increased my vascularity and added overall lean mass.
If i were to do this cycle again (which i am already thinking about) i would add TNE for pre-workout (since it's something i want to add to my cycles from now on) and add EQ ace as a kicker (which is another compound i want to add).
AnonEq as a kicker? Or through the entire cycle? Also what about ur bp was it steady and normal throughout the cycle?
Yep, EQ Ace as a kicker.
BP on a cycle with EQ is always going to be higher, but i kept mine under control by monitoring it daily and watching my salt and water in take.
My friends a running Eq Ace .25ml with npp and test. They hobble around like they've been shot haha! Watered down with some regular eq i think the pip would be much better. But, they eat like freaking bears on that stuff! One of them ate 18 eggs for breakfast, a cantaloupe, a breakfast burrito, and a quart of chocolate milk. I think they'll gain some ridiculous solid weight on that stuff.
AnonYehid never had bp problems til i used eq! I had sex the other day and right when i came the bfk of my head started throbbing and aching like mad! It absolutely put me on my arse! The very next day.. The same thing! I mean i get kinda physical bro haha.. Doing my girl doggy is more than enough cardio but both times right when i came my head nearly exploded! Atleast it felt that way... Anyways i took some aspro 'disolvable' asprin and it pretty much stopped within minutes but damn! This cant be normal
1-Testosterone Cypionate: A Full Review - Is It For You?
AnonWhats the reason behind getting 6 vials of 1-test?
1) Stockpiling/Gear Hording
2) A close friend (non-eroids member) is following the same cycle
AnonThis is amazing cycle, love how you ran the Aromasin. I will be trying that on my next PCT +1 on this cycle. it looks beautiful to me. i might want to try something similar
Anona very wise vet on here taught me about 1-test cyp and i would recommend you lower the dose of your test to 200mg per week. the test and 1-test cyp are gonna be fighting over the same receptors and the 1-test cyp is gonna win every time leaving the extra test to convert to estro. that is just my .02 worth otherwise looks pretty kick ass!!!!
Liver supports.....double dippin the 17aa. Gonna follow your platform. Wanna see the results for future ideas
X2!
might want to pick up "competitive edge labs cycle assist" it's used for ph cycles which as I'm sure you know are extremly liver toxic and it's been proven to be VERY effective via blood work, it's cheap (23-30$ depending on the site)
http://supplementreviews.com/competitive-edge-labs/cycle-assist
good cycle my friend Play, +1 =)
Question...how did you decide on quantities/ratio with test...I see test is slightly lower so im assuming its so the 1test takes control of the receptors, kind of the same premise as low test high tren? Drop some knowledge on me. Im trying to wrap my uead around 1-test, I'm intrigued by it
Great question bro.
I use test in my cycles to maintain sexual function, and use stronger compounds (with reference towards their anabolic:androgenic ratio) at higher dosages to build muscle. Thus, the more anabolic the compound is, the higher the dose it will be ran at.
(Hirshberg was the developer of the above-described measuring tool "anabolic/androgenic ratio".)
Anabolic steroids are derivatives of testosterone which share two types of activity–muscle building (anabolic) and non-muscle male sex hormone related activity (androgenic):
Anabolic, meaning that they promote anabolism (cell growth)
Androgenic (or virilising), meaning that they affect the development and maintenance of masculine characteristics
1-Testosterone------------------------------------100------200
Anabolicum Vister(Quinbolone)(oral Boldenone)--------50------100
Anadrol 50(Oxymetholone)---------------------------45------320
anadur(nandrolone Hexyloxyphenylpropionate)---------37-----125
Anatrofin(Stenbolone Acetate)------------------107-144-----267-332
Anavar(Oxandrolone)--------------------------------24------322-630
Andractim(Dihydrotestosteron)-------------------30-260-----60-220
Andriol(Testosterone undecanoate)-----------------100------100
Androderm(Testosterone)---------------------------100------100
Androgel(Testosterone)-----------------------------100------100
Boldabol(Boldenone Acetate)-------------------------50------100
Cheque Drops(Mibolerone)-------------------------1,800------4,100
Danocrine(Danazol)----------------------------------37------125
deca-durabolin(nandrolone decanoate)---------------37------125
Deposterona(Testosterone Blend)-------------------100------100
Dianabol(Methandrostenolone)--------------------40-60------90-210
Dimethyltrienolone------------------------------10,000+-----10,000+
Dinandrol(nandrolone Blend)--------------------------37------125
durabolin(NPP)--------------------------------------37------125
dynabol(nandrolone cypionate)----------------------37------125
Equipoise(Boldenone Undecylenate)------------------50------100
Esiclene(Formebolone)----------------------------No Data Available
Genabol(Norbolethone)------------------------------17------350
Halotestin(Fluoxymesterone)-----------------------850------1,900
Hydroxytestosterone--------------------------------25------65
laurabolin(nandrolone Laurate)----------------------37------125
Madol(Desoxymethyltestosterone)------------------187------1,200
Masteron(Drostanolone propionate)---------------25-40------62-130
Megagrisevit-Mono(Clostebol Acetate)---------------25------46
MENT(Methylnortestosterone Acetate)--------------650------2,300
Mestanolone-----------------------------------78-254------107
Methandriol(Mythelandrostenediol)----------------30-60------20-60
Methyl-1-Testosterone------------------------100-220------910-1,600
Methyldienolone-------------------------------200-300------1,000
Methylhydroxynandrolone(MHN)---------------------281------1304
Methyltestosterone-----------------------------94-130------115-150
Metribolone(Methyltrienolone)---------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000
miotolan(Furazabol)------------------------------73-94------270-330
Myagen(Bolasterone)-------------------------------300------575
nilevar(Norethandrolone)-------------------------22-55------100-200
omnadren(Testosterone Blend)---------------------100------100
Orabolin(Ethylestrenol)--------------------------20-400------200-400
Oral Turinabol------------------------------------None------100+
Oranabol(Oxymesterone)----------------------------50------330
Orgasteron(Normethandrolone)-----------------325-580------110-125
Parabolan(tren Hexahydrobenzycarbonate)----------500------500
primobolan(Methenolone Acetate)-----------------44-57------88
primobolan Depot(Methenolone enanthate)--------44-57------88
Prostanozol----------------------------------------n/a------n/a
Protabol(Thiomesterone)----------------------------61------456
Proviron(Mesterolone)---------------------------30-40------100-150
Sanabolicum(nandrolone Cyclohexylpropionate)------37------125
Steranabol Ritardo(Oxabolone cypionate)---------20-60------50-90
Superdrol(Methyldrostanolone)---------------------400------20
Sustanon 100 & 250-------------------------------100------100
Synovex(Testosterone propionate & Estradiol)-------100------100
test 400------------------------------------------100------100
test enanthate/cypionate/propionate/Susp & Blends-100------100
THG(Tetrahydrogestrinone)-----------------------No Data Available
tren Acetate/enanthate & Blends-------------------500------500
Winstrol(Stanozolol)---------------------------------30------320
Additionally, 1-test cyp (dihydroboldenone) actually is a tweaked EQ compound that kicks ass from what I have read and actually have some on the way to me from a very reputable SRC.....it can be ran like EQ but more effective at lower doses.... Chemical name is 17beta-hydroxyandrost-1-en-3-one, 5alpha-androst-1-en-3-one, 17beta-ol .... the Anabolic /Androgenic Ratio: 200:100...here's some other facts I found on it too:
*1-Test is 5-7 times more active (anabolic ) than testosterone itself. (More lean tissue gains with fewer potential negative side effects)
*1-Test does not aromatize to estrogens. In fact some studies suggest a slight anti-estrogen effect due to aromatase inhibition. (No water retention, gynecomastia or fat gains)
*Similar to Trenbolone or high dose Primobolan Acetate in effect without the libido issues. Injectable 1-Testosterone
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/lets-talk-abou...
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/deca-dickn-pee...
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/616909-anabolic...
http://prohormonedb.com/content.asp?t=What+is+Anabolic%3AAndrogenic+Rati...
thanks P! bookmarking this chart, thats great reference material. good luck with your run! im excited to see logs of the 1-test from u, zewi, and caddy
Also, some i wrote a post on test, tren and deca which you may find useful...
The difference between test and tren (in short) is that they will fight for the same receptors. However, tren is significantly stronger and more successful at gaining those receptors when compared to test. As a result of the aforementioned fact, the result of running test and tren at equal to high dosages are basically redundant, since the result will be an increase in wastage of the test.
Moreover, tren is highly suppressive of male testosterone production if present in the system - even at low levels. Since normal male estrogen levels are provided through aromatisation of testosterone, natural test production is highly suppressed in a trenbolone cycle, whereas estrogen levels generally fall below normal. As a result, this typically is very problematic with mood swings, changes in libido and joint issues.
In contrast, the aforementioned test/tren rule does not follow suit when test/deca/npp is concerned - regardless of both being 19-norprogesterone compounds. Thus, the protocol recommended with deca is high test and low deca. Additonally, another reason to drop the deca completely (and why some eroids members tend to avoid deca) is the high aromatisation levels associated with deca. However, there is a benefit to deca when one is running an AI during the cycle, such as Aromasin or Arimidex, as this helps to block that process.
Additionally, Deca is preferred in some cases, even though it is very suppressive - thus at the ending phase of the cycle ones hormone levels may take a longer time to recover. Furthermore, as a result of the aforementioned statement, I would consider hCG with your cycle - as long as you have an AI at hand to help increase the recovery process and reduce the aromatisation activity of the hCG.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/deca-dickn-pee...
Hi P ,
What do you think about natco Xtane exemestane ? can you confirm it's legit and well dosed ? no sides like gyno or high blood pressure , bloat ??
( I've order it so would like to be sure )
thanks !
also good info! deca/tren/ment def not on my radar but always good to have an understanding of them
No stats? I read what you wrote, but you can't give many updates more precise than pics or stats. Regardless, thanks for the giuni pig run on the 1-test
cdaddy7Looks great P...you may want to keep HCG on deck in case of too much shrinkage...that's my input +1
Got it
Balls who needs em?
zewiLooks gtg too me. +1---still like test p tapers though
that's my only input.. so i can start PCT 3 days later instead of 15.