posted Wed, 06/24/2026 - 01:35
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+ 1 I had a wild dream last night
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I don’t remember much but some snippets here and there.
Somehow or another a finger ended up in my mouth. Naturally, I bit down on it. Well, it came off in my mouth. I remember thinking two things.
1: I didn’t mean to bite it off. I felt kinda bad about that.
2: it was like biting a baby carrot in half. It clicked just like it.
Really disturbing dream.
I’m guessing that is the Tren talking? lol…
I did bump it up to 25mg/day.
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Must be nice to sleep. Even if you’re having psychotic sexual fetish dreams.
Ya know, maybe the dose isn’t high enough but so far I have been blessed. I sleep like a baby… in a pool of sweat.
I wonder if HGH might help with the trensomnia?
I don’t think there is anything you can until your Nervous system chills out from the androgens lol I’ve tried most thing for sleep and nothing has ever helped. You just get use to it lmao I go to bed at 8:30 and wake up at 1:15-1:30 for no reason at all when I’m on cycle
That’s rough.
Yea it’s the tren.
What does it say if I say I had scarier dreams as a child.
Tren ain’t shit.
I keep reading this as I had a wet dream last night. Wtf
Fuck I wish. Haven’t had one of those in a while. Kinda miss it
Yeah dude tren is uniquely neurotoxic. Among the family of 19nors it's the most dangerous to the brain. I remember seeing you also did NPP it's also neurotoxic.
Have a look at this study on the effects of DECA. Since it's the only 19nor I am aware that was studied for it's affects on the brain. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4462037/
Follow up question. How many cycles with Tren have you done?
I've ran 3 cycles. My last cycle I went up to 50 mg per day. I become horrible to be around.
So the nightmares and the paranoia I know it well.
I appreciate the link. From what I’ve seen, the nandrolone study is interesting, but it’s still a pretty big leap to conclude that tren is definitively “the most dangerous steroid to the brain.” Most of the evidence is animal or cell-culture data, and there isn’t much direct human research comparing different compounds head-to-head.
That said, I don’t disagree that tren has a reputation for causing more psychological side effects than most AAS. Sleep issues, anxiety, mood changes, and brain fog seem to be reported far more often with tren than with many other compounds. I just think the certainty of the claim is stronger than the evidence currently supports.
So far I love my experience with it.
I’ll give the study a read though. Thanks for posting it.
While there's no real human data proving trenbolone is 100% neurotoxic, you'd be amiss to dismiss all the anecdotal evidence and the animal data. This will never be studied, tren is a compound that'll never be revisited by scientists for treating illness.
But the animal data has already shown, without a shadow of a doubt, effects on:
Neurite outgrowth and cell viability
Neurodegeneration
Psychiatric and cognitive effects
Brain atrophy
I don't know how long you've been taking roids, but just take some time to think about how much your BDNF has been affected.
Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.
I don’t think anyone is dismissing the animal data. The issue is that you’re presenting hypotheses as settled facts. ‘Without a shadow of a doubt’ is a strong statement when the evidence you’re citing comes primarily from animal models and in-vitro studies.
We can agree that tren has more red flags than most AAS and that the data we do have is concerning. But telling someone to think about how much brain atrophy they’ve suffered or how much their BDNF has been affected is speculation, not science.
Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence, but it also isn’t evidence of certainty. If we’re going to be evidence-based, that standard has to cut both ways.
How much personal experience do you have with tren?
I'm trying to be right this is just my opinion on my 3 cycles of tren. Titration went up to 350 mg weekly. You can as much as you would like. I would hate to see it affect you negatively later down the line. Because tren affects in ways that a blood test will never show. People that use 19nors consistently for years become reactive and lose their capacity of thinking top down. The study I linked on Nandrolone explores exactly this subject.
Fair enough, and I appreciate the concern. But that’s really my point.
We’ve gone from “without a shadow of a doubt” and claims of brain atrophy to “this is my opinion based on 3 cycles of tren.”
Those are two very different standards of evidence.
I don’t deny tren may have neurological effects. I don’t deny the animal data is concerning. What I’m pushing back on is the certainty.
Three cycles of tren and a nandrolone study aren’t enough to conclude that everyone using 19-nors will become reactive, lose executive function, or suffer measurable brain damage.
If we’re being scientific, we should separate what the data suggests from what we can actually demonstrate in humans.
Concern is reasonable. Certainty isn’t.
Sure you're right and I'll own it. I overstated the certainty, and you're right that the standard cuts both ways, absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence but it isn't evidence of certainty either. I can't argue that.
So let me just say what I actually mean without the overclaiming. The animal and in-vitro data is concerning enough that I take it seriously. This compound will never be studied in humans, tren's never getting revisited for treating illness, so we're never going to get the certainty either way. That's exactly why I lean cautious, not because it's settled but because it never will be and the signals we do have aren't reassuring.
And the honest part, the thing that's just my experience, not science: three cycles, titrated up to 350mg a week, and I became someone I didn't want to be. The nightmares, the paranoia, the reactivity. A blood test would've shown nothing. That's not proof of anything for you, your mileage may vary, but it's why I'd rather flag it than say nothing and watch you maybe find out the hard way later.
You're clearly thinking about it properly so I'll leave it there. Enjoy the blast, just keep an eye on yourself, sometimes the changes are easier for the people around you to see than for you. Take it for what it's worth.
I think we can agree here:
Tren isn’t for some people.
I ran high Tren low test 600 Tren e 200 test e it was glorious and my brain sharper than a scalpel
Would you run that again?
How hard was the prolactin bumping?
If I ever got divorced lol only side effect was being a complete whore and regular whire house and massage parlor to keep up with my sexual urges lol
Prolactin was controllable below 25 with .25 caber twice a week
But best I ever felt in cycle best I ever looked and strongest I ever was
Lmao! Hell yeah!
Mefloquine (anti-malaria medication) is the scariest of nightmare makers.... I literally was sleeping in hell when I was on that. Every night I would transport to hell and dream of demons, gargoyles, and other bonkers shit. Not a good idea for a platoon full of PTSD savages living in the mountains of a foreign country, hunting "bad guys" while they are dreaming of demons and evil spirits.
Jesus Christ that sounds terrible
Brother same, I remember myself and a buddy were making dream logs of our dreams bc they were so bizarre, throw in the deca test and tren everyone was taking. Good times
But did you wake up with a boner? Asking for a friend
I wake up with a boner so much I’ve just started pissing in the bathtub. Wife hates it but dammit it’s tough to fight that fucking hog at 3AM when I’m fucking sleepwalking to the pisser.
What is this boner that all of you speak of? We need to see some pictures for visual learning.
I’m not falling for that again
No pics, no proof
For me it’s either sit down and try to bend over hoping I don’t spray piss all over the back of my legs or just piss in the sink
The sink can get it too for sure
It will be okay. Only a few more weeks left on this blast.
Lmao no pain, no gainz
The most disturbing Dream I ever had on trenbolone was fucking my mother - that bastard had me waking up in a Tren sweat and panicking for sure. Have had tonnes of dreams about shagging ex's and their mothers too - Maybe I'm just a 'Motherfucker'.
To be fair your mom is a smoke show though.
500 test, 100 dhb, had me having dreams about boning multiple women almost every night. Then I wake up and I’m next to my girlfriend, and I feel like a total fucking ass. One helluva dream. The gym girls are quite fine at my gym.
That’s dam reason enough for me not to try tren, I traded my ex in for a younger model and last dam thing I want is to have dreams about layin pipe with her ass lol.. All the other shit I could deal with.
Oh cmon. Live a little.
Well..??? We all wanna know... did you wake up hard after ANY of those dreams?!?!?
I’m pretty sure I’m always hard right now. The wife said 3 times a day is unreasonable and she doesn’t know I jerk off twice.
Bro of course I did - had a wank soon after!!
whew
Damn so no wet dream :(
Dammit. That would be some difficult imagery to forget.
You on anything with ghk-cu? By itself or in Glow and klow, that shit gives me the most vivid wild ass dreams. Though im sure the tren is playing a part even if you're not lol
Yes. Running KLOW daily for some tendinitis.
Yep! It's not as bad if you just do morning dosing, i do morning and evening so I just deal with the wild ass dreams.