What are your thoughts on shorter esters vs longer esters and blood saturation levels
So my question is about Mast Prop vs Mast E. What are your thoughts on Mast P 50mg shots a day vs Mast E 350mg 1 shot per week? I assume/know a 350mg E shot would spike levels a lot more than 50mg shot of Prop would. But which would you prefer? How long would it take Mast P to build up in your system @ 50mg per day, and if you took 50mg Prop per day, levels build up steadily, right? What would Mast levels be in the blood after 1 month of 50mg Prop shots daily?
Currently running Mast Prop at 50mg per day. I also have Mast E and I'm just curious what my levels would be on 50mg of Prop vs 350mg of Enanthate. Plan on running 50mg of prop daily until I run through these 5 vials, then running 350mg of Enanthate weekly to run out the one Mast E vial I have. Thoughts? Any input is appreciated
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They both have their place.
Personally, i like short esters when trying something new. I can see the results faster and can get it out of my system faster if I run into a side effect I don't want to deal with.
Overall i prefer onger esters though.
Once I know I can tolerate something, i like the longer half life. Plus, it's usually cheaper to run longer esters vs shorter.
I do better with shorter esters. For some reason I gain great in sustanon. Use to hate it. But when I pin min wed fri it was great.
Or what if you took that Long ester of Mast E and broke up the dose and pinned it 2 or 3 times a week. Prop has its place but I am not pinning every single day to feel and look like a pin cushion
Ouch! Mrs. Pin Cushion doesn't seem to mind that look.
@PIN_CUSHION . When I do use Mast, MastE pinned 2x week, or if Mast P eod.
lol, that’s how I came up with my name, felt like a pin cushion. I’ve pinned once, twice, three times a week, daily you name it. I like minimizing the peaks and valleys, but daily pinning gets to be an inconvenience. Getting ready to start a cycle of Test, EQ, and Deca, three times a week with a 27g, just under a ml each pin. Mrs Cushion gets an intravaginal pin at least three times a week ;)
Long ester fan here, pinning everyday sucks ass, make life easier for yourself and enjoy it.
iCONicPinning every day does kinda suck. But in my experience it means much more stable levels with less sides. I started pinning more frequently on my testosterone, and my total test levels went from 1100 @ once weekly 260mg test cyp shot to almost 1700 for twice weekly 100mg test shots. So I lowered my dose by 60mg per week and increased my total test by 600 something just by splitting my shots every week
Absolutely, the numbers prove it's much more effective to pin daily, I'm just saying life is so much more enjoyable when I don't have to pin myself everyday
You’re kinda overthinking it bro. 50mg prop ED is already solid, you’re basically running ~350mg/week anyway. Difference isn’t the dose, it’s just how fast it hits and how stable it stays.
Prop builds quick as hell, especially at ED. You’re already stable within like a week max. Levels stay pretty flat too since you’re pinning every day.
Mast E is just slower, not some crazy spike like you think. That 350mg doesn’t just dump at once, it releases over time. Takes a few weeks to really build up, like 3–4 weeks to feel “full”.
After a month:
prop ED = fully stable, no question
mast e = just hitting peak levels around then
but real difference:
prop = faster, more stable, more pins
enanthate = slower, less pins, slightly more fluctuation
Your plan is fine btw. Only thing is when you switch from prop to e, you might feel a small dip for a bit until the e catches up.
Honestly if you don’t mind pinning, prop ED is actually super clean. If you’re lazy, go with e --
iCONicWhat do you think about overlapping the E and Prop by a week? Like starting the E when I have 1 week left of the Prop.
normally you want to finish with the shorter ester