posted Fri, 12/05/2025 - 09:14
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TRT with added compounds
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Hey Eroids,
I’m on a 140mg a week dose of TRT. I’m 43 and in good health.
I’ve been thinking a lot about additions I can add to my TRT dose (“blast” or “TRT+” whatever you prefer to call it).
Arguably for health the best thing is to not do this, but I don’t want to live to 90+.
Var is a good addition (especially PWO) and with proper supporting care for lipids/liver.
Deca seems to be another very popular choice.
Primo also shows up a lot but sounds like it’s harder to find real Primo??
I’ve done a decent amount of research but do not have the experience many of you have.
Open to options/thoughts/ideas.
Thank you!
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I'm on the cruise club, and I occasionally sprinkle in very light compounds for 1-3 months. Var, no, leave your liver alone, I've done it before but I steer clear these days.. Primo yes. Debates on ratios and how much, I get some results with 200mg/week. Deca, not a fan. To echo what others are saying, what are you trying to accomplish. If you're not lifting a lot or often, it doesn't really matter because if you don't need the recovery then you'll see little in results. 40+ diet is king. Although it's always king. 20 you can get away with metabolism. It's why when you see someone 40-50 have a 20 year old personal trainer, I often laugh, sure they can show you motions but good chance they haven't had to try hard with diets.
Var is actually not tough on your liver. It’s your lipids that it fucks up. I’ve only used it a few times because of that.
Goal is to gain some mass and strength (but I don’t want to be a mass monster)
I’m constantly doing research and improving my knowledge.
How long on trt?
Only a few months. I won’t be making a drastic changes soon.
I’m a planner/future thinker.
Plus, the whole concept of “body hacking” really interests me. It’s incredible to think what are body’s are capable of and I like learning about it.
Getting some blood work in a few weeks.
Diet and gym are the real bread n butter. Sounds dumb but without pushing hard there's nothing to repair. And without nutrients then you're shorting the gains. Gear aids recovery....that's bout it. Think outside the box and it's simple. Or simpler most of the time.
For sure! now that I’ve been on TRT for a bit and have a better handle of what it does/how it works, that totally makes sense.
I can also see how the response of up your test is used some often.
That’s where I’m at in life now when it comes to gear. 150mg ew of test and 100mg of nandrolone ew for my joints. Some guys will go as high as 150-200. You’ll get some muscle building benefits at 200. 25-50mg of proviron ed is an awesome addition. Seriously dried me out, harder, more vascular, needing to have sex all the time lol. Primo at probably 100-200mg ew would be a good addition. Ill probably try that in the future. or mast e if you can get it. Obviously not all at once lol. Then you’re basically just trying a cycle. The nandrolone has to stay in for me though at 100mg ew so I will add something else on top of that.
Plus some GH at 2-4ius Ed. I’m on 3 and my IGF-1 less are still damn near 500. I probably will go down to 2ius. But I’ve been saying that for a few weeks now lol.
I don’t see a huge issue with var when you’re getting shredded in the summer. Although people with bad cholesterol need to be careful, like if you have low HDL. That’ll have your ratio at 10 real quick. The goal is to maintain good bloods while on TRT+.
Forgot to ask, what ester are you using Deca or NPP?
I’m using NPP only because my TRT doc does labs every 3 months. So npp kicks in quick and and clears out fast so I figure I can run it for 10.5 weeks and be good when they do my labs at 12 weeks. I just don’t have enough time to run deca. If I had 6 months between labs or I was on self prescribed TRT I’d run deca without a doubt. It helps my joints a little more than NPP, it’s a lot more stable with less frequent injections. I take my test and NPP MWF, which is not ideal for NPP but it works. EOD would be better but that’s just a pain. With deca MWF would be perfect. Even twice a week would be find but I like the stability I get from MWF shots for my test.
Have you ever run NPP at a dose high enough to get muscle gains out of it? I've been wanting to try NPP for quite a while but nervous about the possibility of mental sides, heart problems, prolactin problems etc.
Was thinking of running it along with mast P and test obviously. Just curious what the lowest effective muscle building dose per week might be, or what your opinion on the matter is?
Oh ya, I’ve ran tons of it. It was my go to for bulking. Think the highest i went was 600. 300-350mg ew split into EOD doses is a good starting dose and effective muscle builder. I never had ED, prolactin or heart problems from it. Prior to getting back on a low dose of it years later I would have told you I never got mental sides from it back in the day. But being back on it now and maybe being more in tune I definitely did back then and still get some now. You just kinda get mad or fixated on really stupid stuff. But I’m mindful of it and have been able to control it. I also have a lot less patience when it comes to my small kids. But to be fair to me they do alot of stupid stuff lol.
Yeah, two boys here, 3 and 6. They’re busy and crazy!
I’ve also just started daily Cialis (thanks @UncleYoked). I fixed my dishwasher earlier and my forearms were pumped from hand tightening a fitting, haha. I looked down and was like damn, look at those veins.
Haha true. Kids are idiots. I know that cause I was one once. Appreciate the insight buddy. I'm gonna go ahead and order some, juuuust in case. Haha
100% agree. Thank you for the great information. Lots to think about and plan for.
Oh, and I take 4 iu of growth.
Eastbeast38Wanna feel incredible? Low dose some tren e every other day. Like .10 witha 10mg dbol pre worrkout. Nice low doses of very strong compounds feels so damn good.
Vigorous Steve has a video about low dose Tren, haven’t watched it yet.
Eastbeast38Never herd of him. I will look it up.
Yeah, has lots of YouTube videos.
I added 100mg deca and doing 5 weeks of dbol 25mg. Dbol I highly recommend. First time doing the low dose deca.
Yeah, Deca really seems to be one of top suggests to run along side TRT.
Do you notice your joints feeling better? How long you going to run your Deca cycle?
Deca is hitting right now. Elbows feel 100 right now. Not going to push it thiugh lol. I recommend 10/10.
Hell yeah! I should have my Deca order on Monday.
I’m only 5 weeks in… however, appetite has increased drastically. I am on a slight deficit and the 25mg dbol doesn’t help. I’m up 10lbs to 249-251 most mornings, but that is typical when I get more consistent in the gym.
At your body fat percentage, I bet you would like a Primo cycle. Do you need an AI at all on your current TRT dose? It has been nice being able to blast test + primo and no AI. Cheaper ways to do it for sure.
The top eroids vendors intermittently have primo in stock, including right now. Plan on dropping some coin for a cycle, but you could dip your toe in it with a sporty trt+ primo dose.
Any HGH in the house?
No AI.
Doing 4 iu hgh.
Have some Anavar coming.
Primo and Var are the way to go, I've done this myself. Cycle on and off the Var, 10mg pre workout is an excellent choice. Also, just up your Test. I use Primo to tame my estrogen. Real Primo is out there but it's not the cheapest now. No real need to add it running Test at a true TRT dose.
I've also been on TRT for 12 months and will be taking Var for 12 weeks starting in January, followed by a low dose of Primo. However, I don't know if I can trust the top eroid shops or the brands they sell. What's the best way to proceed? Do I need to have everything I order tested in a lab?
The only way to know for sure is to get it tested, but most of the sources here are good. If it got out they were selling fake Primo it would kill their credibility.
Credibility is what these sources depend on and how they get sales.
Yeah, more of curiosity of what compounds do/could add, but I get what you’re saying.
I was going to stick to low dose Var (possibly even split my 10s in half for 5mg) and run it for an extended period of time. Heard of people having good luck with this and little to no side effects.
Vigorous steve says 12.5mg var a day is sustainable but grain of slat because he does cycles and fitness full time no day job and has a private nurse
Yeah, the 5mg extended cycle is something I heard in one of Vigorous Steve’s videos.