+ 7 Anavar’s effect on my lipid profile
I had some bloodwork done a while ago and my lipid profile just barely out of the reference range. I decided to keep everything the same and run Anavar for 8 weeks and get bloods pulled again before hitting the cruise control button just to see how much of an effect Anavar had on my lipid profile.
I did my best to keep training, diet, rest, etc the same as much as possible. Prior to Anavar my total cholesterol was 167 mg/dl, HDL cholesterol was 26 mg/dl, triglycerides were 103 mg/dl, LDL cholesterol was 120 mg/dl, chol/hdlc ratio was 6.4 calculated, and my non HDL cholesterol was 141 mg/dl.
After 8 weeks of Anavar, my total cholesterol was 191 mg/dl, HDL was at 18 mg/dl, triglycerides were at 160 mg/dl, LDL was at 143 mg/dl, chol/hdlc ratio was 10.6 calculated, and my non HDL was 173 mg/dl.
Since then, I have hit the cruise control button and stopped my carnivore diet and implemented a lipid recomp diet rich in unsaturated healthy fats, lots of fish, much more fiber, fruits and nuts etc. I cut my red meat intake way back for now while I focus on getting my lipids back in line.
I knew Anavar was bad on lipids and I wanted to see exactly what 8 weeks would change so I figured I’d share my results with the community just in case anyone was interested in my attempt at an experiment to get some empirical data on what effect 8 weeks of Anavar had on my lipids.
In a few weeks the long acting esters of the compounds I was running on cycle will have had 3.5 half lives to clear from my system and I will be getting bloods drawn then. I will update with the changes I was able to achieve from my lipid recomp diet if this post generates enough interest to share the continuation of my ongoing lipid experiment.
Edit to add: I was running 50mg per day, 25mg morning and 25 mg night for the full 8 weeks. Thanks for catching that, @anvil.
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MisterManagerInteresting to see the actual numbers. It's good you're taking steps to correct things with diet changes; lipids are definitely something to stay on top of. Would be curious to see the follow-up bloodwork after the diet changes.
Well your total was still good after. But your HDL was in the tank and your ratio is terrible. But your HDL pre anavar was already bad. I assume you were using atleast a test base? Even test will lower HDL and increase LDL. Do you know where you’re at off everything?
My stack for lipid protection is red yeast rice, the good kind that actually has some lovastatin in it. Policosanol, coq10, and niacin. And fish oil. Plus high fiber and I try to avoid simple carbs as the body will convert them into triglycerides. And cardio.
Carnivore is about the worst diet you could have been on with anavar. Poor diet in general imo. It may be good to help fat people lose weight but once you’re past that point as you should be if you’re running gear you should switch to a balanced diet.
This was during a cycle and I was running 500 test c, 400 deca, and 250 mast, and (if I remember correctly) 6 iu of HGH.
I had bloods done via my gp and all was good but sodium was low and something else was low which was why she actually recommended keto or carnivore and told me I can increase my sodium intake. It might have been iron or something I was low on. I can’t remember.
Once I finished the Anavar run and saw how skewed my lipid profile was I immediately went to cruise mode at 250 test per week, ditched the carnivore diet and implemented a cholesterol recomp diet rich in fish, avocado, fiber,
fruits and nuts etc. I also added a fiber supplement and I’m trying to determine a daily sodium intake that gets me where I want to be. I drink at least a gallon of water per day so that seems to crash my sodium if I avoid salt too much so I need to find a good balance.
I also doubled my fish oil dosage and I’ll probably add the red yeast rice, policosanol, and coq10 if I can find all that. I think my preworkout already has niacin. I’ll look up a good daily dose of niacin and possibly add more if my preworkout doesn’t already meet the recommended requirements.
These were end-of-cycle bloods and I’m switching from a hypertrophy based program in a caloric deficit to running a strength program in a caloric surplus.
What is your daily dosage of niacin, coq10, and policosanol?
HPF Cholestene Brand RYR is the best. It’s been tested and actually has lovastatin in it. Most of the RYR sold is useless garbage.i take 20-40mg of Policosanol, 100mg of coq10 and 500-1000mg of niacin. Higher doses if on gear or trying to recover lipids. You can even go higher with the niacin, up to 2000mg. Gotta build up to it and get used to the flush. Non flush niacin does not have the same positive effects in lipids.
I’ve been doing an experiment with 20mg of Var and 10mg of Cardarine for 8 weeks. This is my lipids 4 weeks in, also taking citrus bergamot morning and night at 1200mg. I was very pleased with results, cardarine is definitely interesting for lipid support while running var. Will know for sure @ week 8 bloodwork
Next time I run Anavar I’m going to take supplementation like the citrus bergamot and fiber and eat a more heart healthy diet and see how much I can mitigate the lipid profile changes.
Looks like your bloods are solid! Good job!
anvilWhat was the dose of anavar?
Haha that is some pertinent information I forgot to include. Whoops.
It was 50mg per day
anvilUnderstandable, 50mg is a decent dose. Thank you for the post.
No surprises here, Anavar trashes lipids, it’s textbook. 4 weeks is usually the “safe-ish” window, after that it’s just downhill. PEDs always collect their toll, no such thing as a free ride in this game, BTW thanks for sharing your experience.
I’ve always heard Anavar was bad on lipids but I was just curious as to exactly how bad it is.
Your mileage will vary but people can get kind of a ballpark estimate on what they may experience should they make no other changes other than adding Anavar.
Seems like a change in diet or supplementation during the use of Anavar could mitigate some of the lipid changes. I chose to change nothing in an attempt to isolate a single variable.
Maybe next Anavar run I’ll see how much I can mitigate lipid changes by implementing a more cardio-healthy diet and adding other cholesterol controlling supplementations.
As Staind say - 'The Price to pay to play the game .....
Better than ppst the obvious you have prior bloods so use the cholesterol fixes and report on the findings.