Injectables for Women
My wife is 5’ something and has been lifting for quite a while with me. We both hit the gym every day at 530am(ish) and once she’s at an acceptable bf% she wants to run a cycle for strength and muscle gains.
Shes done Anavar in the past but doesn’t like that Anavar cycles are so short. Shes not afraid of needles and she’s dedicated and willing to do further research if and when we can find any info.
I looked into women taking test here on the forums and found only one lady who was running test. We’re looking into what compounds are going to be the least viralizing and looking into what a good starting dose will be.
I hear mast was originally made for women so that’s one I’ve been looking for information on. If anyone here has any anecdotal information or can point us to credible sources of information that would greatly facilitate our search for information.
Thanks to all who are willing to help us in our search!
- Bookmark
- 0
- 0
I would start her on injectable carnatine pre workout preferably fasted cardio to make sure she can pin
Winny inj albeit painful. I know girls that run low dose primo just fine as well. Growth is always a good thing to consider as well
@Petecastiglione how low is low dose primo?
Grrl preached loudly against winny for women.
https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/ladies-lounge/womens-beginner-cycl...
AK80Mine does .05 of Test E with a 30g x 1/2" slin pin in the butt cheek every Wednesday. That keeps her levels just under 100ng/dL and doesn't need and AI or anything. Doing .10 seemed to be too much as she would complain about goat hairs on her chin once in a while or clit sensitivity. Using PA/87's Test E 300, this comes out to be 15-18mg per week. She's 48 so being just below 100 is good since 75 is the high end for women over 20 for example. Lots of hormone places down in Florida that you can get stuff from too. Just need to get a blood test done first and then they'll get you dialed in over the phone and on web cam. Probably can't use health insurance with them though since they are profit driven.
Anavar + HGH combo is quite sufficient for such goals. If you truly understand what you're doing and have long-term plans and ambitions in professional sports, Testosterone will be necessary. However, I have to disappoint you—no amount of research can protect her from virilization when using Testosterone.
@crazy DOSER is the HGH dosage and protocol the same as a male?
I had my chick on primo ace test prop primo e
What dosages was she running and what were her test levels in her bloodwork?
100mgs per week on primo
She never did bloodwork
I’m also a woman. I’m running 14 mg test prop a week but my levels are also super low. I would get her blood work done to see where she’s at before she starts test. EQ is a good option for women but I would start low at like 20 mg a week to see how she reacts. Bold cyp is a better option because it kicks in faster and leaves faster if she’s having unwanted side effects
AK80Slin pin once per week or two? Prop is in and out within a few days. You don't feel any ups or downs?
I pin test 2mg every day. Bold cyp every 3.5 days
There’s evidence that suggest that nandrolone might not be the best choice for women:
“Virilization occurred in around 50% of the patients (mainly hoarseness and/or hirsutism), and 9% of the patients dropped out because of this reason.”
Nandrolone decanoate: pharmacological properties and therapeutic use in osteoporosis.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8846659/
Virilization of the voice in post-menopausal women due to the anabolic steroid nandrolone decanoate (Decadurabolin). The effects of medication for one year.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8174308/
A report on alterations to the speaking and singing voices of four women following hormonal therapy with virilizing agents.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10622516/
If she really wants to inject, you could look into retatrutide or tirzepatide for weight loss.
She’s already on Tirz and her diet is on point. Shes lost a ton of weight but still has a way to go. I was considering suggesting HGH as it can help with weight loss as well.
There are no negative effects of GH on women; only benefits! Don’t have impressive anabolic potential but if you combine with something else, It does. If virilization is a no no, keep her away from testo, please. Low dose Primo with GH would work just fine but as my other reply. Proceed with extreme caution
(oral primo isn’t the same FYI)
Gh? Maybe primo? I’m no expert but I feel like anyone can benefit from gh
GH has definitely crossed my mind, especially in the weight loss stage of her journey.
AK803iu every night before bed for 6 months. Keep an eye on water retention just in case. Hands might get a little tingly, but she'll sleep like a baby.
Mast will make her lip hairy. Ball tickler. Lady bodybuilders run low dosed prop and var. The pros run items that males cringe over
@Jockstrap Why test prop specifically? No cypionate or enanthate?
I know @kodiakGRRL said she ran test and sustanon (I don’t think at the same time) but she’s been inactive for quite some time now.
Fast in and out. Might be good to really scavange the ladies section. Get it right from the women vs guys
Mast is a nice option... However, there are definitely sides to this. Pros or amateurs only run testo if competing in woman’s , bodybuilding and figure categories. Bikini and wellness athletes must maintain their femininity. Some are amateurs before obtaining a pro card, while others may struggle to reach the top 5 in a pro show due to virilization. Abuse can result in male-like looks, even using only the less androgenic drugs still androgenic in some measure…‘so sides will eventually show up over time in some individuals.
Mast
Primo
Deca
Tren
Anything less androgenic can be done on girls. However, evaluation from time to time is absolutely a must. Starting off very low dose is preferable…virilization -- it is time and dose dependent in most cases, so proceed with extreme caution.
Is a test base necessary? How low is low? Say mast e at 50mg/week. Too low? Thanks @Pandateston
Wimen need no test base. Women need no pct.
AK80Yes, that would be the MAIN thing to suggest first. Might even be the ONLY thing she needs. Nothing wrong with bumping up her natural levels a bit! Her blood test after 12 hours of fasting should come back between 20 & 70 ng/dL for TOTAL testosterone. Not sure about FREE testosterone though. Make sure you get D3, thyroid, lipids, etc. (full panel) done and share it in here after you cross out name, address, social, etc. on the print out.
@No08 Women naturally produce about 4–7mg of test per week — that’s nothing compared to men. So even low-dose gear hits hard and carries way more risk of virilization. That’s why straight testosterone is usually a no-go for females unless you’re dealing with advanced competitors in specific categories like woman’s, bodybuilder or figure, who fully understand and accept the sides.
For something like Primo or Mast E (both have ~5–6 day half-lives), 25mg/week is a solid starting point. It gives enough time to assess response without diving into risk territory. If everything is smooth, bumping to 50mg/week is reasonable. I wouldn’t push past 100mg/week unless she’s deep into it and chasing serious physique goals.
But remember….individual response varies a lot. Start low, monitor closely, and don’t chase fast results. This stuff builds over time.
Just my 2 cents brother, from experience with a close friend coaching women on gear, and fellow athletes. Always do your own research too.
Those that you mention are the ones you think she should do or the ones that she shouldn't do?
AK80Unless she is trying for her IFBB pro card, she should stay away from Deca, Tren, Anadrol, Dbol. And since we already know now that her goal is weight loss and muscle tone, Testosterone and maybe Anavar or Clen should be the only things suggested. Diet & exercise is already on point.
I agree. I asked because he stated that Trenbolone is among the least androgenic compounds when I'm pretty sure Tren is among the ones with a higher androgenic profile. My back is hairy because of Tren! Lol
Women not ifbb should not ever run tren. Youre correct its 5x as anabolic and 5x as androgenic as test.
Tren at a very low dose won’t harm the way people think . I’m 100% confident in that from personal experience. But that said, it’s not for everyone, and definitely not something I’d suggest for his wife’s case. Can’t compare male vs. female use …. completely different game.
I get where @AK80 is coming from and he makes a solid point, I just don’t agree with test use in any scenario where virilization is a concern. Once those side effects start, they’re usually permanent — and you won’t know until it’s already happening.
Since her goal is weight loss and muscle tone, honestly:
Var + GH, or
Low-dose Primo or Mast + GH
would be more than enough in my opinion.
Keep it simple, stay safe … because once virilization kicks in, there’s no going back. Better to be cautious upfront. @No08
AK80Yeah it's rated @ 500 for androgenic in comparison to testosterone which is 100 on the scale. Hairy like sasquatch here too. Tren is a no go for her. No08 doesn't need to be woken up in the middle of the night with her trying to put a dildo in his ass (I'm assuming)
Great. Now I need to convince her to take tren….fml.
I do not know her. For that reason, I cannot suggest specific drugs or dosages. I give ideas, and the person must conduct some self-analysis and do his own research. These are the least androgenic injectables, which means they have the least virilizing potential. These are compounds that my fellow athletes and prospective competitors use. And they are the most commonly suggested and prescribed by professional bodybuilding coaches. They are going to be in any bikini or wellness protocol. Virilization is a problem that can occur when a coach or athlete (aspiring/lifestyle) loses control in a hurry and goes too far, even with mild substances like Oxandrolone.