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Hey bros
Starting back on TRT after trying to reboot the endocrine system for trying to get wifey pregnant… couldn’t make it happen but that’s God’s plan.
I was curious what low dose gear guys like to throw in with their TRT. I try to maintain around 900-1100 levels with a weekly 125mg Test E. Generally I might throw in two months of low dose Dbol but it does not always make me feel the best when grappling training or competing. Anyone have any go to’s? I knew a guy who would throw in 100mg of deca for months at a time but would like to hear some experience on this topic. I’m open to anything neat.
Currently taking Reta 4mg /week, HGH 5iu split afternoon/pm, and Glutathione 400mg a week for overall health. I give blood when needed and blood pressure is generally good. I am sitting around 240lbs at the moment but want to continue to lean up.
I don’t plan on running an actual cycle until I get 6-8 months in TRT and start to see a potential plateau.
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I’m an AAS minimalist who trains with an emphasis on functional fitness and athleticism.
My favorite secondary AAS to run next to Test is turinabol. It’s gives great endurance and you can train hard for as long as you want. 25mg/day went a long way for me.
Mast prop for me I love it!
I’m saving that for when I lean out more. It is great stuff.
Gotcha! I just love it bc it helps control estro and it's not hard on the body. Had a coach a few years back and he wanted me on exactly 100mg deca with 300 test.
You're doing it the right way staying on trt plus until you feel like plateaued.
You couldn’t recover your sperm levels? How long did you come off for and what did you take to boost production? It’s very very rare sperm health doesn’t recover after coming off, even if test levels don’t come back.
I’m on 100mg of NPP a week with TRT for my joints. Clinics are keeping people on this indefinitely. Can’t say whether or not that’s healthy. The right labs should give you a good idea of what’s going on. I’m on proviron as well.
I was off a year. 4 months of HCG and I was producing. Got off and was not producing two months later. I was experiencing severe joint issues and the wife could tell I was miserable. To preface this, I have been on trt since 2019. Also had issues with hormone levels since highschool. Could be all the plastic bottles lol. We aren’t bummed about it, it is what it is.
I don’t think you Waited quite long enough. The 1 year mark is probably right and things started going back to normal. I was on blasting and cruising for like 6 years. And then I came off and I was off for about a year and a half and got my wife pregnant. My test levels were shot. But I guess my sperm levels were fine.
HCG is not a great drug for boosting sperm. HCG acts like LH, which is what tells your balls to produce test, not sperm. HMG acts like FSH which is what tells your balls to produce sperm. Clomid also does a good job stimulating sperm production. If I were you I would have stayed on clomid at 25-50mg Ed until she was pregnant, and probably added HMG as well. But if you’re good with where you guys are at then that’s all that matters. But I’ve never heard of anyone not being able to recover sperm production after coming off. My friend was on a permablast for 20+ years starting at 18. He had like zero sperm when the doctor checked him. He came off and took clomid and HMG and very quickly his sperm levels were back up to normal and his wife was pregnant. So if idea is still in the back of your mind I’m fairly confident you could make it happen if you wanted to. I don’t think you’d even need to stay off as long as did with the right drugs.
One other thing to note, it doesn’t always happen super fast. I always thought if I nut in her she’s gonna get pregnant. First one took like 2.5 months of trying. The 2nd which at this point I had been off for 3.5 years so you’d think if anything it would have happened even quicker, it took 4 months of near daily sex. The medical establishment says anything under 12 months is considered normal and that’s people who hadn’t ran gear and shut themselves down for years on end.
Most definitely. We already have one. I also have been been taking a clomid/dhea combo along with gonaderelin for the past six months. No luck there. The HCG was the only thing to get the sperm production back. I started this June 2024 and today is the day we called it.
Feels so good to get back on test. I was off for like 5 years. Test levels hovered around 200-220 the whole time. It wasn’t that bad actually. Had absolutely zero sex drive the entire time so that really sucked. 3 years before even morning wood came back lol. Made absolutely no progress in the gym, actually went backwards for quite a while just slowly losing everything I gained beyond my genetic potential. But ya it’s great being back on test making slow but steady progress again. I’m on 150mg of test C 100mg of NPP ew and 50mg of proviron ED plus 3ius of GH. I guess this is what the kids are called TRT+ lol. If I can maintain self control I don’t plan on going beyond these low doses.
I have lost so much mass during this cut. I need to really start hitting weights hard. I still want to see if I can get around 215-220.
Ranger3252I also run Deca at a low dose 150 mg per week. Definitely throw some HCG in the mix as well. Although it could raise your test levels, but might compensate for throwing in a small dose of Deca.
Deca worked well for me even at 150mg a week along side trt. I always feel sturdier on deca, even a low dose. Squatting specifically. My knees are fine on low dose deca. Without it, idk maybe its placebo but knees feel much weaker.
Ranger3252Are you a female? You said during pregnancy, that’s why I’m asking? Or were you trying to get a female pregnant?
lol I am a guy. Tried to get baby number two with the wife.
Ranger3252Did you pump your body full of HCG? That really helped with my second one.
Ya…. Then it went back to the dumps after everything was pumping. I had severe joint inflammation from it so had to back off.
kayileI've heard of guys adding in different things at low doses, but never tried Deca myself on TRT. I'm curious to see what others have experience with too.
There are a good deal of low dose deca topics on here. I haven’t seen any with just TRT though. EQ is something I’d like to use as a slow and steady but that’d probably be better full boar.
Ranger3252Don’t even respond to Kaylie, pretty sure it’s a bot account
kayilei am not a bot bro..-- what makes you think of that?
I just do it to bump the post lol