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Second cycle test c , Dbol
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I finished my first cycle of 12 weeks 500 test e split into 2 injections a week at the beginning of January. I plan on running my second cycle starting in the next couple months. I have 4 vials of test c 250, a 50 blister of Dbol 25mg, 2 vials hcg 5000iu, 50 tabs 1mg arimidex, and enough tamoxifen left over from last cycle to run 2 weeks 40mg daily and 2 weeks 20mg daily. I plan on running a 16 week cycle this time at 600mg test a week split into 3 injections a week. I would like advice on the best way to make use of the Dbol and how to dose the hcg and arimidex. Also is 600 test a week a good punt while on Dbol?
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If your first cycle went well, I probably wouldn’t change too many variables for the second one. Going from 500 mg to 600 mg/week isn’t a huge jump, but adding dbol at the same time makes it harder to know what’s causing both the gains and any side effects. If you decide to use it, I’d keep it limited to the beginning of the cycle rather than running it throughout. I also wouldn’t plan your arimidex dose in advance. Get baseline bloodwork, monitor symptoms, and adjust only if needed. Crashing estrogen usually causes more problems than slightly elevated E2.
The same goes for HCG – many people use it during the cycle to maintain testicular function, while others don’t. It really depends on your goals (fertility, easier recovery, etc.). Since this is only your second cycle, I’d focus on keeping the protocol as simple as possible, getting mid-cycle bloodwork, and seeing how your body responds instead of adding multiple new compounds at once.
Thanks man I appreciate the info
A few thoughts:
Increasing testosterone from 500 mg/week to 600 mg/week is not likely to produce a dramatic difference in muscle gain. Most of the gains come from training, nutrition, recovery, and simply spending more time training. Increasing the dose generally increases the likelihood of side effects more than it increases results.
Adding Dianabol changes the side-effect profile significantly. It’s highly estrogenic and can increase water retention, blood pressure, and strain on lipids and the liver. Many people mistake the rapid weight gain for muscle when a substantial portion is glycogen and water.
Arimidex shouldn’t be treated as something to take on a fixed schedule without a reason. Estrogen is important for muscle growth, libido, mood, joints, and cardiovascular health. Suppressing it unnecessarily can cause problems just as elevated estrogen can. Blood work and symptoms are much better guides than trying to “pre-dose” an AI.
hCG has a specific purpos….primarily preserving testicular function and fertility while on testosterone. but whether it’s appropriate depends on your goals. It’s not simply an anabolic add-on.
Before starting another cycle, I’d make sure you’ve actually recovered from the first one. That means confirming with blood work that your natural hormone production, hematocrit, lipids, liver enzymes, and other markers have returned to a reasonable baseline rather than just feeling “back to normal.”
If your goal is maximizing long-term progress, I’d invest more effort into progressively improving training quality, sleep, and nutrition than into increasing drug doses. Most lifters have more room to grow there than they realize.
To answer your questions also need to understand: What are your current height, weight, body-fat percentage, and training age? What did you gain during the first cycle, and how much of that have you maintained? Do you have recent blood work (CBC, CMP, lipids, AST/ALT, total/free testosterone, estradiol, LH/FSH)? Are you planning to come off again or remain on testosterone afterward?
I really appreciate your response. To give you more info my first cycle I got my bloods done right before hopping on and everything was in normal range. I take my bp throughout cycle and wear a smart watch to track heart patterns and the. When I started I was 145lbs at 10% body fat. I ended my cycle at 180lbs January first. I was using hcg during my cycle to preserve testicular function. I did end up using ai’s after getting super tender nipples. I followed up my cycle with 2 weeks of 40mg tamoxifen and 2 more weeks 20mg tamoxifen. That was over the first of February. After everything normalized I lost strength and size obviously but I am now back at 180, 6ft, 17% bf and all of my lifts are back at the PRs I had on cycle. At this time I’m 2 years into serious lifting. I am in the gym 5-6 days a week training between 1-2 hours depending on how I’m feeling. I track each lift and I run a mix of either PPLPPL or PPLUL depending on if I go 5 or 6 days focusing on doing the same movements and improving each time whether that be in form, reps, or weight. I’m very strict on how I sleep, eat, train. Up until this summer, since I started I’ve tracked nearly EVERY calorie I’ve ingested with a scale down to the gram and prepped every meal and 80% of what I eat is natural, whole, unprocessed foods. I feel like I’m at a point where I can eyeball well enough to make sure I’m getting enough proteins and carbs now and I focus on my carb timing and fat timing to benefit me most during training. Next time I cut I will count calories and begin meal prepping again but as of right now until I get back on cycle I’m just sure to eat atleast my maintenance and more than 180g of protein a day. I do not plan on staying on. My goal is to reach my maximum natural potential a lot faster than naturally. My gear is otw from the distributer and I plan on starting at the end of September and will be cutting down to <15% bf and getting bloods done before cycle and now that my cycle will be including something other than testosterone and will be longer than 12 weeks I plan on getting bloods done at the end of the dbol and again at the end of cycle.
You’re going be popping that Adex like candy lol
Because of the dbol?
Dbol causes alot of people to skyrocket on e2, some guys will use it if they've crashed their e2. Dbol will also drop your SHBG which will cause higher free test which = more estrogenic activity. If youre going to take the dbol up Tudca from 500mg to 1000mg, take 1200mg NAC, 1200 Citrus Bergamont and up your fish oil with EPA/DHA to 4g a day. My sweet spot with dbol is around 30mg a day, I've ranged up from 10-50 and 30 seems the best for me but everyone is different. It will hit your liver and lipids. Tbh the longest you're going to want to run it should be a max of 5 weeks.
Also, only take AIs if you get sides, that shit is toxic as well.