posted Wed, 09/11/2024 - 20:48
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Hi guys, I wanted to ask you what you think about the following cycle, considering that my goal now is to get bigger and reduce some fat mass (this is my third cycle)
Test E 500mg/week (250mg monday/250mg thursday)
Tren E 100mg/week (50mg monday/50mg thursday)
I would follow this cycle for 8/10 weeks; then the next 10 weeks I would only do Test E 250mg/week.
Opinions? Advice? Experiences?
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I think more information is needed to be able to say something more certain.
AK80Lower your overall carbohydrate intake and only use some oatmeal or grits in the morning for brain function. Some clusterdextrin after your workout and maybe 1/2 cup of brown rice for lunch & dinner. Focus on lean proteins like fish and chicken. Up your healthy fats like avocados, nuts and EVOO. Just doing 100mg of Testosterone Enanthate every Monday/Wednesday/Friday for a total of 300mg per week should be all you need for 6 months straight. Shouldn't have any side effects or need an AI this way either. More reps less weight in the gym like 4 sets of 15 instead of 3 sets of 10.
Your other forums makes it look as you havent researched, read or had many cycles. Simple test only but get bloodwork this time
I think it’s to early for tren but what I would do is start with 250 test, 100 tren. Something about 500 test screams high e2 which is gyno territory when mixing with a 19-nor. You can hit a great recomp with those doses - tren is great at it
So you would be on a dosage of 250mg test/week and 100mg tren/week (single weekly injection?)?
You don’t want to inject tren 1x a week. Many of the terrible sides people get are due to massive hormone fluctuations. More stable serum concentrations = more even keel sides. Not saying no sides. Just more manageable when hormones are more stable.
Yes. However, if your sleep goes to crap cuz of the tren its no longer and effective cycle. With tren e you’re stuck w sides for about 10 days due to the half life. Tren A is a matter of days. It’s hard to eat right and train hard if the sleep is insufficient. If you used test at 500 and mast at 300 you wouldn’t have to worry about any of that and be able to have similar outcomes. Test & mast is prob my fav combo
Apologies. Split it into at least 2 doses for 250 test, 100 tren
Wouldn’t bother with tren at that dose. Try running test with hgh if you want lean safer muscle gains
I often wonder why tren at all? For the every day kind of person that is? Tren to me is like fucking a Tranny. After you have F'd every girl on this planet and you are bored you are like well might as well try Trenny.
I get the results but I think there are better compounds out there that can get your very similar results with less possible sides. I just don't get the whole Tren thing. And I prob never will based on how I seemingly react to 19-nors
probably because it's "trendy" and everyone is talking about it, maybe even those who sponsor it but then don't use it. What would you recommend?
I mentioned down below. I agree with some others... NPP/Deca. which are still in the 19-nor family if you want to go that route.
I didn't read below, sorry.
so a cycle of test and deca is recommended by most compared to tren
If you haven’t run a 19-nor you should probably try nandrolone before tren.
Dosages aren’t outrageous though.
Also why are you cutting your dose in half for the last 10 weeks? You’re shutdown regardless. Just find a dose that works for you and your goals and stick to it for the cycle. Then either pct or cruise.
I know someone who does the classic cycle and then doesn't do pct but continues to take only test at lower doses for 10 weeks. then they restart the cycle with test and tren (or other compounds).
I don't think it's the best choice anyway
I mean you’re describing a blast and cruise, but 250 is too high to cruise on. And 10 weeks is too short of a recovery period most likely.
Basically would you recommend doing the PCT after the cycle weeks or even just a few weeks of testing only (basically instead of the PCT)?
You need more than a few weeks for your body to recover from a cycle. Lots of potential damage done to your liver, heart, arteries, etc.
Let your body recover. They usually say time off cycle should be time on cycle + pct. If you’re doing blast and cruise you should do time on cycle + like 4 weeks probably.
If you’re a pro you probably have to abuse your body more, but if you’re just a regular dude do yourself a favor and let your body recover. Ultimately how much risk and damage you’re willing to do to your body is up to you, but personally I’m in it for the long haul.
Whether you do pct or cruise is up to you. I think both have merit.
anvilI'd like to know why you'd make a run and cut the rest in half at the half way mark? So 2-3 weeks into full blood serum concentrates you are gonna to back it down?
If you must run Tren run the ace. Just my personal experience with Tren ace/e is terrible and I cannot even do 40mg per week and I cannot sleep, I tell you that because of you are going to react badly it doesn't take much.
Tren E? Nope, you don't know how you're going to react to tren even if its 'only' 100mg. First time always tren ace.
Also tren on your third cycle is a nope. Try masteron or primo.
No way bro. This is something I feel very strongly about. More ppl can handle Tren e than tren A. Low dose tren e he’ll be fine (although I don’t like it with this cycle).The way they hit make them 2 completely different compounds in personal opinion. The intensity and fast onset of Ace is too much for alot of ppl compared to the long slow drip of Enanthate. It’s like drinking beer compared to taking shots of moonshine. Nothing but respect though.
Make this make sense when you adjust your dosage and inject everday. Ace would be more stable than tren e that way. So no, tren ace always above tren e.
What is he gonna do when he starts low dose tren e and starts to feel like shit? He's gonna go through hell for the next two weeks is whats he gonna do.
My point is from personal experience Tren e and Tren a are two completely different animals. Tren e is way more tolerable. Not everyone that can handle Tren e can handle Tren a. You’re speaking as if he’s gonna get them on both regardless, which is not true.
Tren may be early for your cycle history but that isn't an extreme dosage so I'm not necessarily against it. 100mg is a very low dose tren cycle but you'll still see results from it and the sides shouldn't be overbearing.
Friends are retarded, learn up front that most don't know shit about anything.
Deca may be a better choice, if you keep it lower it won't turn you in to a balloon and will make you feel good and shouldn't knock your dick out of usage
thanks for the advice, i'll probably go with test and deca. dosages more or less 500mg both/week or the lower deca?
HarleyDavidsonEagleAt least he’s not running 800mg Tren E LOL even though he probably will
If I'm asking for other opinions and advice it's precisely because I'm not a fool who does the first thing he's told --
HarleyDavidsonEagleGood job researching
anvilThis isn't the place for college essays 500 word minimum, average 20 year old has an attention span of a tiktok .
A 10 week "cycle" timeframe seems long?
What is a desired timeframe?
”When discussing a 10-week cycle involving esters (performance-enhancing substances), that timeframe seems quite extended to me. This can potentially lead to issues if not monitored carefully, particularly when it comes to hormonal balance” …. It’s like ChatGPT without an internet connection
My first two cycles were pretty much the same. I used Test C (12 weeks) in combination with Dianabol (6 weeks) and Mk-677.
I haven't tried any other injectables at the moment, I was thinking about Tren because some friends recommended it to me, but I was actually also considering Deca (always together with Test).
Basically my main goal is bulking, I'm not super obsessed with cutting, although obviously I don't want to be big and round like a ball --
This being your 3rd cycle I would do test/decca/dbol….. TikTok has hyped up Tren and don’t get me wrong it will increase your strength but it should be used down the road after some more experience. Now if you don’t have any gear yet or if you only have access to certain products let us know and we can help build you an appropriate cycle that will work and best of all not cause horrible side effects.
What’s more important, tell us about your diet and sleep habits.
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- 09/12/2024 - 01:03
In a promo × 1 PermalinkHe's trying to lose fat mass and you advice him deca and dbol smh. He's inexperienced and you want him to do 3 wet compounds. Are you trying to grow him tits?
Lets be honest though. Fat Mass as he calls it has less to do with picking compounds and more to do with what you are plowing in your mouth. Water isn't fat either. Water is well water
anvilI like it, up him a bra size. Maybe add some ment.
For workouts and diet I have a special coach, I noticed some great improvements thanks to him and also thanks to the first two cycles (even if the pct is terrible). Now I want to do more, get bigger and stronger.
So do you recommend Test/Deca/Dbol in what doses and for how many weeks?
What do you think about taking only Test after the cycle weeks, at lower doses?
Have you ran Tren before, if not I would consider Tren a, quicker to clear your system if you can’t handle the sides. Before I give you any advice tell me about your two prior cycles… btw Tren on a third cycle is jumping the gun. You not a fan of decca? What’s your goal, bulking or cutting?
My first two cycles were pretty much the same. I used Test C (12 weeks) in combination with Dianabol (6 weeks) and Mk-677.
I haven't tried any other injectables at the moment, I was thinking about Tren because some friends recommended it to me, but I was actually also considering Deca (always together with Test).
Basically my main goal is bulking, I'm not super obsessed with cutting, although obviously I don't want to be big and round like a ball --
To me Test/NPP or Test/Deca is a far better option this early on. If you want to dable with the 19-nors you are still doing that with NPP/Deca
No tren dude, your still to green. That mix of deca and dbol is going to boost your estrogen up decently too, if your on your 3rd cycle and you want to bulk then just use test and deca but watch out for the deca dick.