+ 1 Can anyone explain how my numbers are so high?
These results are after 6 weeks of running 437.5 test c, 350 deca, 600 primo and .5 arimidex e3d. The test is from titans.to, primo from onlythebestaas and deca from the now defunct dc pharma I've got older blood work that has shown I'm a rather high responder to test. But this is just ridiculous. I have prior results from the same batch of test c showing my total t is 880 at 105 mg/week and a bit over 1000 ng/do at 120 mg/week.
There are 2 things I can think of here. First I've been doing 1 weekly shot of tne starting at week 4. Anywhere from 50-60mg PWO. The last shot was done about 75 hours before my blood was drawn for the test. The other thing I've heard is that some blood tests aren't sensitive enough to not include the deca in with the test. I was under the impression that doing the uncapped total t test was the more sensitive version of the test but maybe I'm wrong here?
I've been happy with the results i've had in both strength and physique over the last 7 weeks. I expect the next 9 weeks to be even more impressive. I have run a similar set up before with DC's primo. All the same dosing actually. Those results are the 42XX number from January. Some people had some questions about whether the primo has some test p in it or something. I suppose thats possible considering who it came from. I ordered the exact same test for each one of the results listed in the picture. Also this time around my e2 numbers are a fair bit lower than previous runs. And i'm taking 50% less adex now. So that leads me to believe that this primo is probably more legit than the prior stuff.
So eroids, anyone have an idea on how to explain these results?
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That's a hard nope. I've had something from another vendor where after using it for a while the rubber seal had noticeable holes left in it and started to notice little dark colored floaters in the vial. DC actually used really nice rubber seals IMO. They never left anything behind or have holes that didn't reseal even with using a single test vial for 3ish months.
But we are talking about a scammer so the thought of them cutting corners with cleanliness really isnt that surprising.
i agree dc had best rubber seals. after a finished vial it would look new not a single hole or anything. so yea i tend to believe his cleanliness went downhill. i also remembered the time whr he spiked cialis in orals too.
I had heard about that but it was before my time here. Probably not too much of a stretch to think he'd do something similar with some of his more expensive oils. I'm guessing that's why my e2 with this primo at the same exact dose, and slightly higher test dosing, is lower than it was on his stuff. Even with me using 50% less arimidex this time around.
Though i suppose just sending out straight mct oil would be even cheaper for him.
yea i stopped using his stuff a whole ago and should have when he spiked cialis. it wasnt that big of a deal for me since i use it daily and dont buy orals but its unfair to others and not right. best thing to do would be to send out samples from the stuff u got just to be sure or just order from difference src all together.
I take a low dose Cialis EOD. 5mg does me just fine that way. I use it more for the pump and to help lower blood pressure a little bit rather than for it's marketed use.
If my next round of blood work with a different vendors deca shows that something is up with what I'm currently using I'll just chick the lot of stuff I have left over from him. While I hate to waste the money I have more than enough test to last me 10 years at trt doses and enough other stuff to run a couple cycles a year for around a decade too even without DC's stuff.
yea i do the same w cialis just 5mg ed. while it sucks to chuck out product i would just look over each vial with a light to see there isnt anything in ur vials. sometimes its not worth it in the long run
Yep so true
Not too familiar with the sensitive test. Maybe someone familiar can give their input. I'm still on the fence about what I commented above.
I see a few guys still using his gear
ive had a week in between bloodwork and was running only test. one regular non lc/ms test and other lc/ms they came back at around 4% difference in values. im 99% sure deca will detect as test on a non sensitive panel.
I take your word my man. Appreciate that valuable info
no problem. i always buy both lc/ms for test and sensitive e2 for estrogen. deca/npp will interfere with testosterone and tren will measure as e2 on non sensitive e2 testing. however if your only using testosterone and nothing else i dont think its that big of a deal to get regular a testosterone blood panel
That's my plan for the next round of tests. If for no other reason than to see the difference between the two on the same blood work. If the difference is only 4% like you I'll probably just keep doing the less expensive test like I have been.
You’re a hyper responder doing 1.5g of gear a week and you ask why your numbers are so high?
Your test is most likely the hplc test which can pick up other types of gear other than testosterone and usually has a margin of error in favor of being higher than it actually is. An lc/ms test is more sensitive to actual testosterone and will give you a more accurate reading of just your test levels.
Granted those will still be very high if 120/week puts you at 1000 and you’re running 400+.
Doesn’t seem out of the ordinary other than being such a crazy responder to exogenous gear.
I am curious now how many people here are getting the sensitive test vs what i got here. Just curious if i'm making an apples to apples comparison.
Doesn't look like the total/free t test was the lc/ms version. I guess when i get my 12 week bloods done i'll be using that test instead. Thank you.