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-1 First Cycle (Need Advice)

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Planning to do a 20ish week first cycle. I need advice on what i could add/improve on.

Weeks 1-6 300mg/wk test e E3.5D

Weeks 7-12 400mg/wk test e E3.5D

Weeks 13-20 500mg/wk test e E3.5D

Weeks 21-24 250mg/wk test e E3.5D
(lowering dose before coming off to not have horrible hormone fluctuations)

Weeks 1-12 1000IU/wk HCG EOD

Weeks 14-20 20mg Var ED

I have Adex on hand but ive heard that Aromasin is better, so im buying that also. I will dose as sides come.

PCT -

Wait 3 weeks then

First 10 days 1000IU HCG ED

Afterwards 40mg Nolva 100mg Clomid ED weeks 1-4

Weeks 5-6 20mg Nolva 50mg Clomid

Im 10% bf, 170lb 5'7. Going to do a 500kcal surplus, followed by a 6 week cut on Var.

Traingokux's picture

Hey, I’m thinking about doing my first cycle of test e. I’ve ran a few cycles of sarms rad, Lgd, mk677 and done the proper pct. I’m looking for more so I’ve turned to test e. I’m planning on pinning 2/week at 150 each totaling to 300 a week while taking hCG during and 2-3 weeks post. I just need help with post cycle and how to keep it on the down low. I don’t want to be fought by my wife or kids pinning my cheek twice a week. Any other advice would be appreciated

BioHackTheMachine's picture

I like that you're being cautious in your approach here, especially as a new user. Now there are different theories regarding pyramiding your doses of testosterone the way you are rather than just hitting a blast off the hop. Both work. Starting off lower like you are allows for the body to adapt to the uptick more gradually and get more from less as far as the speed at which your receptors get used to certain dosages. That being said 300mg/week is not very much to be running for 6 weeks. I would probably ramp up to 400 faster like within 2 weeks of use. 500 is a good beginner blast dose but with a cycle of this duration you may find that once your body adjusts to the higer doser that your progress starts to stagnate a little bit as the cycle progresses. Tapering off is always a good idea so its not such a drastic slump just keep in mind that its tough mentally to see your body not responding as it once did. So as far as the test goes I would suggest going up faster, really focusing on your diet and increasing clean calories to maximize muscle growth.
Now as far as hCG goes there is some benefit to running it on cycle to stimulate your gonads but its not going to add anything really as far as muscle goes while on a blast. Taking it on cycle especially in the beginning seems rather counter productive to me almost redundant. If anything I would throw it in at the end when you're tapering off.
As for anavar its a fantastic drug. I love it. You can however run it for longer than 6 weeks as its fairly mild on your system. 8 and even 10 weeks would be totally fine as long as you're taking care of yourself, eating right and possibly taking NAC, Tudca or some liver care product. 20mg is low for a man with underground gear. I know the stuff I have is really high quality and I take 40mg and it does wonders so maybe try upping it a couple of days and see how that feels in comparison. Again its mild so you can do it with no issues.
As for your PCT this is great. You wouldn't believe how many muppets I know that think taking steroids is like taking creatine and that they don't need to invest in PCT and will just drink on cycle and come off drastically without doing things properly. Its actually insane. 1000iu HCG ED is pretty aggressive. You could probably get away with 1000iu EOD and be fine.
I've been doing this for alot of years now. 20 or so to be exact and this is just my opinion and input based on my experience.
Anyways, happy cycling and I hope you reach the goals you set out to attain.
God bless.

Drexyl's picture

What you put here as your stats differs from your profile, with that being said I’ll go off of what you posted here. Some guys simply don’t carry a lot of muscle naturally, we’re all built differently and genetic potential is going to vary greatly. If you’re honestly 170lbs 10%BF at 5’7” and 30 years old, you’re in very good shape. I’d highly recommend getting bloodwork done to make sure you’re ok for this and to get an idea of your baselines. As far as the drugs go, keep it testosterone only for your first run, and get bloods done again to see how you respond. Good luck with it and most of all make it fun, you’re going to be surprised what supraphysiological levels of testosterone will do. Frankly I’m not sure how much of a surplus I’d go to already being in that condition, I’d probably just bump up my protein, make adjustments to the macros. Any chance you can post a pic of that 10% ?

Jockstrap's picture

This is just avredo of your other post. Still listening to noone like before. Wasting members timr trolling. Jyst do it then. Stats dropped 8% bf from last post too....wow! In just 3 days!

23Sparta's picture

You were right, fucks wrong with these dudes. Gotta be more careful, because like you said, time gets wasted

23Sparta's picture

You’re 5’7” 170lbs. There’s plenty of meat left on that bone for you to grow naturally. Save the first cycle for when you need it. @NWApatches

NWApatches's picture

Yeah I read this earlier and didn't even bother. It falls out on deaf ears and blind eyes almost. I'm 5'9 and was 205# natural. everyone thought I was cramming a shitload of gear, veins busting out of my shoulders and chest. But you already know alot of guys aren't really about this life of lifting heavy fucking weight and eating heavy. SOFT - my girl is 170 and I keep telling her to eat more. You gotta be two something to do something

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NWApatches's picture

Somewhere.

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23Sparta's picture

2Sumthin 2Do Sumthin…. bro, I’m stealing that

Jeepman78's picture

I noticed your comment about the lowering dose before coming off to not have horrible hormone fluctuations. Thinking along those lines I would say you are probably better off shortening the cycle, shorter the cycle the faster your body should recover from slowing/stopping natural test production.

Why do you want to do a 24 week cycle? I just personally think that is a very long time especially for a first cycle. My early cycles were typically 10 weeks and the effects were dramatic. Maybe this isnt the advice you were looking for but I would do 500mg/week for 10 weeks for a 1st cycle. Use the rest of the gear for your 2nd cycle and add the Anavar in after you have seen the effects of just test give you.

If you do stick to 24 weeks I would just pick a constant dose and stick with it.

The HCG you can start 1-2 weeks after last injection, I wouldn't wait 3 weeks.

Nolva I do 40-20-10. 40mg/day for 2 weeks, 20mg/day for 2 weeks, then 10mg/day for 2 weeks. Comes out to 50 tabs.

I just noticed is that 1000iu HCG/week on weeks 1-12? Ive read the body can become dependant on the HCG if used for extended periods of time at high doses. A safer dose would be around 250iu once a week if you do want to use it on cycle.

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23Sparta's picture

Truth. Don’t use dosages of compounds that will obliterate your health makers, maintain anabolism and just grow. It takes time!

Drexyl's picture

This 100% I took Makwa and Press1 advice and bumped my GH from 2IU up to <>3.6IU and it’s a huge difference. I don’t go any higher than 4IU and do take the weekends off, but yes I’d suggest the slightly higher dosage if you want more visible results. I’ve ramped things up thanks to the promo, and next week I’ll be adding the Masteron. Things are going well.

23Sparta's picture

Nice bro, that bump up to 3.6 was a good play. Takes you out of that quality of life bracket and over to where the magic starts to happen. Love hearing you say things are going well

Drexyl's picture

It’s funny how much of a game changer it really is. Like I said, over 4 isn’t for me, I can notice some issues at 4, but definitely feel incredible and the results are coming fast. Looking forward to the masteron, the ol nips are acting up a little bit lol

23Sparta's picture

Around 4iu is a sweet spot as far as cost and risk to reward ratio imo, also generally described as the entry level “bodybuilding” dose. I love growth and am willing to dose it fairly high. I also am understanding of the risks and able to mitigate the mitigatable (new word 10pts) ones. Right now, I’m at 2.5iu just as a maintenance dose while I run IGF-1 LR3. When I finish that peptide, I’m excited to work my way back up for the growth and recovery. Although, I am not looking forward to being a sleepwalking zombie or waking up in the middle of the night having to piss, my dicks hard af (cialis) and both arms completely numb lol

Pumped_'s picture

Lose the var, just do test only for first cycle and pick a dose 300-500 and stay consistent on that dose the whole cycle. Whats your science on pyramid cycling? Your still completely shutting yourself down either dose. Id start PCT 2 weeks after last shot unless doing something like deca a wait 3 weeks.

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