-9 Need help at finding which drugs did what effects (happens when you run multiples drugs for the first time, and all at once)
During my last cycle (which lasted 10 weeks), I experienced very noticeable effects that, unfortunately, are no longer present in my new cycle (500 Primo/750 Test). I would like to identify the compound responsible for those effects so I can reintroduce it into this new cycle.
The previous cycle consisted of:
- 500 Nandrolone Decanoate
- 500 Testosterone Enanthate
- 400 Masteron
- 250 Equipoise (since the cycle lasted 10 weeks, I don't know if this one was already kicked-in)
The effects were as follows:
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Gym: I felt like Hulk, truly. I could engage in very intense 4-hour sessions with very little rest time. I could also handle a significantly higher volume, with around +20-30 sets per isolated muscle per week. My strength increased consistently week by week, with a linear and constant overload.
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Everyday life: I was very aggressive and apathetic, with an extraordinary level of self-confidence. I felt inclined to engage in confrontations with everyone; on the road, I would stare people down, although it's rather foolish, not necessarily what I'm seeking. However, that feeling of being a powerful "Superhero" perfectly encapsulated what someone might describe as being on steroids. Unfortunately, I no longer experience pronounced effects like these; I only have some intramuscular glycogen retention, and otherwise, I have slow but steady progress, that's it.
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Your profile says otherwise.
And he was also 42 in one of his other posts……
Jonathan22Shut your ass up
So confrontational you sure you aint still on that crazy cycle 'superman'. Fuck outta here.
Jonathan22Confrontational? You're spamming me.
Is no one going to point out that he performs 20-30+ sets per muscle group each week? Speaking personally, I would not be able to make any gains, although I would probably lose a lot of weight. Jonathan22, how many calories were you consuming on the "superhero" cycle/workout routine? Also, you said your strength increased every week in a linear manner. What kind of poundage are you talking about here?
Jonathan224.3k calories
Some of the effects that you mentioned like looking folks down and wanting to engage in confrontations aren't the effects you would want anyways and not sure why anyone else would want those effects cause you'll end up in a jailhouse or even worse. Alot of times we don't give our bodies enough rest or time off in between cycles. And your previous cycle is way too much for a newbie man, I haven't used that amount and I have a bit more experience. I take it that your previous cycle was your first cycle.
Jonathan22Actually, that intense feeling of aggression made me feel a bit like the hero of a movie. I would walk into the gym and it felt like everyone was afraid of me (which wasn't really the case), but psychologically, I had a major boost that's really hard to describe in writing, I won't lie. But, I can understand if you don't see the purpose of seeking out aggression as an effect.
Brother feeling like a super hero doesn’t make you one. These days it’s best to mind your own business and don’t recklessly engage in conflict with ppl you know nothing about, it could be the last thing you do in life. If you can’t reel in your aggression you need to stay away from compounds that will elevate that feeling.
Jonathan22I liked it, you don't have to.
+1
Sorry if I seem harsh but I'm just giving facts man. Hate to see something bad happen to you that could of been avoided. I just read your comment below about your issues. Damn...hate to see that.
I totally get that good aggression is a good thing and can help us out no doubt. But to stare at guys is where we need to draw the line ya know, even you admit it's foolish, just saying. See alot of folks don't know how to control that superman feeling because it's hard to control without a doubt. So I agree aggression is good if we can control it and not let it control us. At times aggression has got the best of me so I've experienced that before.
I really do not like the superman/super alpha feeling. It's a damn risk. Smh when you meet the real not drug fueled superman/bigdickswinging/giga alpha you'll get your steroid fueled ego (and ass) beaten into oblivion.
Of the compounds I've tried only anavar made me really confrontational with people. Like not letting petty shit slide. Needles to say I don't use anavar anymore and if I do it's at really low dosage like 10mg lol.
People like this guy are the reason steroids get a bad rep. They walk around like some inflated wild gorilla. While actually the most big dudes (like legit pro bodybuilders) I've met where the most helpful and friendly guys in the gym. They are juiced to the gills yet they don't act like what OP describes as the feeling of being on steroids.
Smh my bad for the long rant lmao.
Nah you're not ranting...truth is truth. I've seen guys get themselves into situations a few times being either too cocky, full of juice or just being drunk in general. Both tend to make folks feel like superman. I remember seeing one juiced up guy pretend to be tuff only to be embarrassed in front of his pretty little girlfriend. The dude got whipped so damn bad I think his girlfriend broke up with him in the middle of his beating! It was wild man lol.
Lmao your girl breaking up with you while getting a beating is even more painful than the beating itself imo.
Facts. Dude got lit up like a damn Christmas tree.
Jonathan22Steroids affect peoples differently.
Ya my mom told me not to take steriods cus I’ll start beating my kids Lmao, I blame this guy for her thinking that
This is one of the kids that needed to be beaten more lol
He says he's 39 lol
Well the mental struggles are clearly there. He may be a 39 year old pro athlete….in his head…
And I don’t want to make light of mental struggles but his cycle was dumb, his stats are dumber, and the “alpha” mentality he speaks of is the dumbest. So here we are.
May be dumb but let him be. Clearly he has some things going on. The guy is gone.
Idk what’s going on, been seeing a few guys lately that just aren’t all there. Feel bad, I don’t like making fun of anyone, or at least try not too lol. But some of these guys have just been fried lately
Yea they've definitely been fried real good....shit deep fried at that. But I'd rather guys be upfront and honest with them than to lie to them. You never know, could be the only solid advice those guys are getting. I'll go hard on those guys before I make fun of them because mental issues are something serious.
Yep, I ran test at 600mg and deca 500mg a week my first cycle, shouldn't gave done it, deca can be gnarly if you have head problems and aren't careful, ya I felt like a monster but it's just not worth the risk sometimes.
I agree not worth it
Yea Deca doesn't need to be ran by anyone for first cycle.
Deca fucks a lot of people when they have no idea what they're doing. Some people it takes multiple attempts of PCT to even get back to normal. Probably what caused the issues. Which is why I'd rather run NPP over Deca because if something goes wrong with NPP you'll clear it much faster than Deca. You shouldn't be running gear yet, just a suggestion. Deca in some people cause mental issues. The effects of Deca can last months even when finished with the cycle because the ester lasts a looong time
Jonathan22The deca triggered insomnia, depression, nightmares, brain fog, and even six months later, I'm still not fully recovered. I still have insomnia (waking up 5-6 times a night, sleeping only 4-5 hours, and experiencing recurring nightmares). I feel like I'm slowly emerging from my depression with the help of an antidepressant and microdoses of LSD, and my brain fog is gradually lifting thanks to the peptides (Semax & Selank). I'll never touch a 19-nor compound again in my life, and if I ever do, it won't be nandrolone, and it'll be with a very short ester.
The metabolites from deca can last over a year, and if you don't watch your hormone levels with blood work and your e2 and progesterone get out of wack then you experience what your experiencing, lack of knowledge and too many drugs.
Jonathan22lack of knowledge? Mention the guy who told you that I wasn't getting a blood test every month. I'm waiting.
edit : You're 199lbs and 17% of bf, you shouldn't even be registered on a steroids website.
I've gained bf I. The last few weeks because I'm not allowed to do anything till after surgery. Was sitting at 13% in January bud.
Is this antidepressant and “microdosing” of LSD being done under the supervision of a physician or psychiatrist?
Are you up for some of that Drex?!! Lmao
Dear god no lol. Doc tried antidepressants during my divorce, they made me feel awful. LSD? There’s just no way. I think waaaay too much to ever try a drug like that.
Shrooms do it for me lol. But I do it outta fun, I don't get depressed. I couldn't imagine being on acid and being depressed lol
Deca isn't a beginner compound. It's also not for everyone. Get your bloodwork done. Because I've heard of guys having the effects of Deca last a year and some never go back to normal normal. Even after multiple PCT attempts.
This from your profile:
Since: 5 Months 1 Week
Born: 01/01/2002
Weight: 210
Height: 6'
Body Fat: Above 20%
You’re 23 years old, (which is below the age we give steroid advice to), running a big quantity of gear, (multiple compounds), at high BF. Need to slow it down a bit. You’re going to end up in a mess.
Its because the compounds you were using in your previous cycle, taking Testosterone out of the equation were ALL stronger than your current one. Last cycle you had Deca, EQ and Masteron - this cycle you are just using Primobolan. Primobolan is a drug that takes quite a while to see any effects from, which you also have to run fairly high according to experienced users of it. It will not create any good muscle mass or strength compared to the Deca, EQ and Mast. If you want to feel alpha male and get the same benefits as before then you will have to go back to that old cycle buddy.
Jonathan22Redoing the same cycle will be impossible because I stopped it at the tenth week, I was losing my mind, couldn't sleep, and fell into depression. I believe these were the side effects of the nandrolone. But why did I only feel the side effects after 10 weeks when I could already feel the deca around the 4th or 5th week?
Also, it's possible that it was the Equipoise, as it might have only started to take effect after 10 weeks. However, with a dosage of 250mg per week, which is lower than the recommended dose for a beginner, I don't think that's the case.
I'm thinking of giving Masteron another try.
It could very well of been the EQ as it takes even longer to build up than Deca does, and yes at the lower dosage you were running it will of taken even longer to build to an effective level. If you get mental sides from steroids I would stay well away from EQ, its anxiety and headaches in a bottle. Go with Test, Deca and Masteron and you will feel great on that - they go well together those 3.
Jonathan22Actually, I won't ever run deca again solely due to its toxicity. However, I'm still very interested in replacing Primo with Masteron, which can actually be run at much higher doses than Primo for the same (or less) price.
What do we think of a 875/700 (Test:Mast) cycle instead of 750:500 (Test:Primo)?
You are having serious mental issues but you still want to do big cycles like these. How about you stop running steroids till you recover or limit your usage to 250 mg of test only till you resolve your shit.
Guys 23 if he run a good pct and come hgc he should in theory be at the sort of levels 250mg a week would put him anyway without running anything.
He says he's 39, his profile is confusing. I wanna know how many cycles he's ran, what he's ran, and how the effects started, might give a better idea as to why he got those effects. He is looking to find out what is causing it. I think its the deca with mental issues, deca made me all over the place.
Jonathan22I won't resolve neurotoxicity induced by a 19-nors, by reducing my Primobolan and/or my Tesotsterone amount.