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I start to turn crazy and depressive on a deca cycle.

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Hello,

So, I've been on Deca for like 14 weeks now (6 weeks remaining) but I can't train and follow a diet at all for a few weeks, I honestly start to turn crazy.

I can't sleep, and will be lethargic the whole day, I'm literally unable to train, and this for weeks now. So, I'm doing a blood work every months, and my doctor forgot to add prolactin to my old bloodwork, so I didn't took any caber for two months, and I finally got a blood work and my prolactin is like at 877 (apparently it should be at 20-350), so I guessed that my extreme insomnia/lethargy was from the prolactin.

So I took 0.5mg of Caber, and the next day still no evolution, I know that I should take it twice a week but I wanted to lower it really fast, so I took it the next day and a few hours after absorbing the 0.5mg I vomit all my food, and now a day after I'm still feeling ultra depressive, crazy because of no sleep and extremely lethargic which makes me unable to train and feeling so sad because I like a lot to train usually.

I will continue caber at 0.25mg twice a week the two next weeks because that's only what my doctor can give me, the time it takes to receive my UGL 0.5mg caber, but do you guys know how much time it can takes before I get a normal level of prolactin, and feel good again? Also this is my current cycle : 500 deca, 500 test, 250 eq, 400 mast.

Thanks in advance, have a good day.

edit : By the way, my e2 is in range, test is around 5500 and for the rest everything is in range.

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Makwa's picture

What units is that in? Normal male prolactin levels are like between 2-20ng/ml.

Jonathan22's picture

877 micro u/ml it says. I guess this is 41ng/ml

anvil's picture

If you can't sleep and feel crazy best fastest way to reduce the prolactin would cut the dose on the Deca. I had a similar reaction to 300 a week, I stopped and have never used it again. Seems to happen to the 35 and over crowd.

simonmagus84's picture

I’m the same way which is why if I ever decide to do it again, I’d run npp for 6 weeks max.

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Jonathan22's picture

I honestly don't think that the esters play anything in the hyperprolactinaemia, better to keep a caber on hand.

simonmagus84's picture

That’s a given. It’s hard running 19nors for that reason which is why I won’t be running them again for a long time.

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Jonathan22's picture

Yeah honestly this is a shitty compound and I probably won't ever run it again. I will stick to the famous 500 Primo & 1000 Test, will build the same amount of LBM than test/deca but with not even 10% of the sides.

simonmagus84's picture

NOW YOU’RE TALKING. Usually, the favorable cycle around these parts are test, npp and mast but I agree, you can achieve the same results but that primo cycle is costly. I would only stick to primo but I struggle with Pip and oil volume because I only pin delts so I’m limited in my usage. I’m only going to run 300mg test with 400 primo in May. That’s good enough for me.

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wanted's picture

I would love to see 2 guys
1 guy npp , test , mast
1 guy primo , test Pictures. Cause most of these guys look the same on primo and say they couldnt run it to high for PIP
npp guy would blow him away

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Jonathan22's picture

I've heard about the primobolan PIP, honestly it's not a big deal for me because I can dilute it with other compounds such as test, and a virgin sterile oil if it really hurts, but it shouldn't. My injections are only in the glutes, I can't do like you guys and pin in delts, otherwise my whole arm hurt and I can't train anymore.

But finally I thought of, instead of doing 500 primo w/ 1000 test, doing 3000 test only cycle, because it cost the exact same price and it should be quite more anabolic.

simonmagus84's picture

Wait, you mean 300 mg test?

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Jonathan22's picture

3000mg

Banjokid2020's picture

Test, npp, and mast will actually be my next "bulk" cycle next winter. Currently on week 9 of my first go with nandronle, NPP specifically. 140mg/week of test and 350mg/week of npp. Just running a little conservatively to establish how I react to the compound. And wanted to try slightly above my trt dose to see if I could get away with out AI. And so far so good. My libido now is actually stronger than trt dose alone. Probably due to little more test, estrogen, and more frequent pinning. I was worried about that with all the stories ya hear about libido issues/deca dick

Jonathan22's picture

I will be honest man, I don't think I will run deca again, so I will continue this dosage to empty my stores of deca, but if lowering the prolactin makes me having no more sides, I'll maybe run it again idk.

Banjokid2020's picture

Is this your first run with deca? Or any of the other compounds?

Jonathan22's picture

It's my first time for EQ and Nandrolone, I've already done Mast and Test before.

Banjokid2020's picture

Obviously a little late now, and hindsight is 20/20. But probably would have been best to introduce one new compound at a time. And maybe start doses lower and titrate up as you go. Like Simon said, maybe NPP if you ever go nandrolone route again, that way if sides arise can pull it and it will clear quicker. Best of luck man!