Had my first blood work done, need some advice.
Before my first cycle of test I crash dieted for a few months and realized my dick didn't work and that I didn't think about sex for those few months so keep that in mind when you look at the blood results and give advice. Anyway, started test cyp 250mg per week for 6 weeks, had no sides at all so bumped up to 500mg per week and have been on that dose for about 6-7 weeks now. Just did my bloods a few days ago, took bloods on Wednesday afternoon as I work nightshift I had just woke up and I did drink a liter and a half of water before doing bloods (I pin Mon/Thrs). Haven't had any sides honestly except that my dick still doesn't fully work and after upping dose slight moonface jawline is not as sharp. I get like half chubs from time to time so it's better but still not recovered, I am eating 3000 calories was eating 1400 on the crash diet. Trying to recomp which is working, currently about 15-18% bf can see top 4 abs very clearly just little tiny pouch on the bottom left to lose. Here's the results, could the SHBG be causing this? Obviously need to start taking AI to lower that E2 even though no side effects except maybe a little moon face that I noticed weeks prior. However, before the cycle my E2 would probably be in an okay range so I though it'd be the SHBG. What should I do here? How do I raise that SHBG to that green area, really want my dick to work to be honest. Was great for focusing at the start but it's a little boring not being able to use my body to smash girls. Any advice on what could be causing this? It's been 3 months since I upped my cals over time so I thought it'd fix itself, maybe now the problem is the E2 being so high? If I'm not really getting sides except for moonface should I take AI to see how it goes? Defo don't want to crash E2. Also, I'm blast and cruising as I know I'll do more cycles anyway. Have done Sarms couple times before but they were much more expensive for less results so this is technically my first proper roid cycle/blast.
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anvilEstro overloaded the system...368
Get your eatrogen down the take cabergoline for prolactin.
test20034Never heard of Cabergoline. What are dosages usually like and for how long do people tend to take it for?
I take half a mg a week and it goes away. I’d use the Pfizer brand. Stuff is easy on your system too. No sides are anything. Stuff is very very good at taking down prolactin. Prolactin will mess your dick up bad with ED
test20034Okay, I'll order some right now. AI + this stuff should sort me out and will get bloods done in 3-4 weeks to check. Thanks guys.
It's not SHBG. High estro #1 and high prolactin #2. Need to use an AI and get your estro under control first and foremost.
Was going to say the same thing but you beat me to it.
test20034On the way to doing that, how would I fix prolactin?
Prolactin typically follows estrogen. Not always. But likely considering your case and just using testosterone. Unless you’re a rare case of simultaneously occurring prolactinoma. Add an AI to get your E2 down, you could start 1mg of arimidex the day of your injections for the first week to get ahead of it then decrease to 0.5mg the next week. Repeat labs in 3-4 weeks. Including prolactin, and see where you lie.
If e2 is under control and prolactin is still high you should get an MRI to rule out prolactinoma, as that’s very uncommon but could definitely be a cause for erectile dysfunction which you had prior to the cycle.
test20034Okay I'll do that, I was planning on hopping on accutane low dose and getting bloods in 4 weeks anyway so I could also check if the AI worked and got my E2 and prolactin down at the same time, or would hopping on accutane not be good at the current moment?
I would focus on getting estrogen under control, as that is a really high #. Hopefully that will help with the ed problems. Your prolactin levels are high as well, which is puzzling to me based on what you’re taking. High prolactin can also cause ed. I will be interested to read what others on here have to say. Do some research on AI use. There is some great info on this site. I use arimidex, while others prefer Aromasin. There are also a number of guys these days who use Primo or Masteron to control estrogen so they don’t have to use an AI. I would settle in for some serious research and reading.
test20034Yeah I've just took .25 arimidex, just not too sure how long and often to take it, really don't wanna crash E2 either. I'm not comfortable stacking stuff on top as this is my first cycle, want to get everything perfect before I start introducing other stuff into the mix. Would injecting more frequently fix my E2 without the need of AI in the future or is it just too high that it wouldn't fix it entirely?
anvil.25 adex isn't enough you are over triple the estro you need to function at. What is plan for the prolactin ? Are you sure there is nothing else contributing to this, seems like you are taking 500 deca/npp and 300 test per week, but I trust you know what you are doing. I have taken 1mg adex per week without crashing estro, and mine was way lower than yours is. Up AI, possibly lower test dose until you have this controlled.
test20034Yes I'm only on test as it's my first cycle I don't want to add anything. Okay I'll up AI to .5 every 3.5 days maybe? How long were you taking AI for?
Every other day would probably be better for the time being. You might even consider taking 1mg immediately then dropping down to .5 EOD.
test20034I see, how long do you suggest for? A week and then see what I'm feeling like?
anvilI agree 100% with his advice, a couple of weeks, or until next bloods and you see where you are at.
I'm no expert but if think at least a couple weeks and see how you feel. You're going to have to get more blood work to know for sure how effective things are going though.
Id suggest you do whatever some of the older heads like makwa tell you to do.