PLEASE HELP, NEW TO THIS.
I'm new to eating healthy and gym lifestyle. It's been 7 months of religious hard work in the gym and in the kitchen in regard to clean eating! reversing the dad bod wasn't going to be easy and i was prepared to anything including hard, disciplined work.
After seeing VERY LITTLE GAINS and extremely tired all the time I decided to get my blood looked at. Turned out T-levels was at 60.. wtf!?. I've been on test-E for 3 months with little gain but weight has been fluctuating and now noticed the dreaded MAN-CANS! AKA "MOOBS"! Test-E is converting to estrogen as we all know is normal but, more than I hoped-for!
So I've been on- •HGH 2 IU daily• (my 10th day today) •Test-E 200mg. 1cc weekly• (going on 3rd month)
•MAST-E (Drostalone & Test-E) 100mg. 1/2 cc. Weekly• (2nd week) •WIN 10mg. Oral 1-daily• (4th day)..
Any advice for adjustments, additions or completely different regimen would be extremely appreciated!
All blood work came back excellent with the exception of total T, as mentioned above was extremely low @ 60!! I'm 43yrs young with no allergies or health complications at all! Last BP check was 121/79 current weight 192lbs.
Thanks in advanced! Ps. Im new to this site so please excuse any mistakes in regard to posts or info...
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I’m surprised your dr didn’t prescribe Arimadex. You should get some asap
Is it UGL Test/Gear you are using or proper pharmagrade prescribed?
My nipps are hard all the time.. nownim thinking about it, itchy at times as well.. not really painful or uncomfortable.
Pharmagrade, Test E 200mg
Gyno usually takes a while to accumulate into actual moobs. It will start with painful/itchy lumps behind your nipples. The mast should help with estrogen but are you taking any AI (aromatase inhibitor AKA anti-estrogen)? Have you gained a lot of fat? That would make more sense as to why you have moobs this quickly. I have moobs at high body fat but they go away when I am relatively lean. I would follow what was stated already below and drop everything except for the test. Have you gotten bloodwork while on cycle? It’s important to know where your estrogen levels are at in order to help determine what’s going on with you.
Thank you for the reply. I was 235lbs. Now down to 192lbs. I have been at this weight for a while now. Body doesn't want to drop any more fat!??! I have several blood panels since starting trt. The last blood panel was ordered with the test for estrogen. The panels before did not. From all the literature I've read concerning TRT its seems weight loss (fat%) would have dropped a little faster than it has, now at a stand still for over a month and half!
You seem knowledgeable. Would it be ok to reach out if i have further questions?
That’s over 40lbs bro. That’s a lot. Be proud of that. I lost 60lbs and the weight loss slowed down significantly after the first 30-40lbs. You have to redo your macros, adjust your diet, and add cardio. More weight will come off. The diet you were on at 235lbs will not be as effective at 190lbs. You may just be at maintenance calories now and that’s why you’re not losing anymore weight.
You didn’t answer if you were taking an AI or not. What were your estrogen levels at when you got them checked last? That could help with water weight as well as getting some of that gyno down. And yes, feel free to friend request and message me. It would probably benefit you the most to get multiple people’s input though. Sometimes I’m a little ‘tarded.
You gotta increase the amount of your protein intake. Start from there.
Thank you for the reply. My intake for protein has been 200gram daily of chicken, lean red meat..ect..
Gym routine ppl 1-2 hrs 5-6 days weekly.
Shoot for at least 1.5g/lb. 2g/lb would be better.
You are on a lot of shit for someone supposedly starting TRT. Sounds like you need it with your low test levels but you need to go through a doc to guide you through the process to get your test and estro levels set to the right levels.
Thanks for the reply. Doc. Has me on test E, 200mg. 1c.c. weekly. With advice from a friend, I added.. Win,10mg. Oral 1 a day.. HGH, 2IU daily.. AND MAST E 100MG, 1/2c.c. weekly..
I'm currently 192lbs. Skinny fat.. muscle is building behind fat layers (SLOWLY) but like that crazy girlfriend the fat doesn't want to part with me!
Is there a concoction that will keep my test level stable and added bonus to help lose the man-boobs and fat around stomach/hips? Also need to harden the muscles as well.. i know its a tall order but I'm working my ass off with little gain.
Food will dictate how much muscle you will grow. I hate the word "clean" lol. Just eat reasonable. You know what's good and bad for you. Bring up calories at least 1000 over your normal daily intake. Protein protein protein....
Thank you, will do
Well did you go to one of them TRT "clinics"? Looks like they got you man, sorry to say. Drop the GH, just throwing money down the drain. Drop the Test to 100mg a week and run for a few weeks then get bloods done. 200mg for most is cycle territory. Drop the Mast and Win. You should only be running Test. A lot of these clinics are just money grabs. They tell you X and prescribe you Y, all for the sake of money. Would you question their reasoning? Probably not because they're doctors right?.
Spot on about those TRT clinics. My levels were around 500 and they prescribed me 200mg/week. Although 500 total test is on the lower end of “normal” ranges, I don’t think a regular PCP would prescribe testosterone, and if they did, it probably wouldn’t be 200mg. It put me at around 1000. Everyone responds differently though.
I'm prescribed through urologist for test E 200mg.
What are your levels just Test E at 200mg? If they're still low, you might have bunk gear.
Well, since your levels were at 60, that makes more sense than me getting prescribed 200mg when my levels were around 500.