posted Mon, 11/06/2023 - 11:33
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+ 10 Ment E cycle
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
I really liked the results I got running ment A for short time so I figured I would try some longer ester ment E and see what type of results I can get from it. This will be a bulk obviously. Staying somewhat conservative with the dose I believe and just doing a simple short cycle to get a good feel for the compound. Got some ment e on the way so looking to start this the beginning of December once it arrives. Will be monitoring body composition to get a good indication of how the compound performs. Going to shoot for at least 750 cals above maintenance to start and adjust cals as needed based on body comp results. I may sub some sust in place of the test e since I may be doing a MWF pinning schedule.
| Week | Sust | Ment E | Mast e | Ment a | DHB | Tbol | Provi | anadrol | Aromasin | Caber | HGH | PEG-MGF | IGF-LR3 | Mot-C |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 120mg | 330mg | 270mg | 300mg | 25mg Ed | 50mg Ed | 300mcg/d | 5mg EOD | ||||||
| 2 | 120mg | 330mg | 270mg | 300mg | 25mg Ed | 50mg Ed | 300mcg/d | 5mg EOD | ||||||
| 3 | 120mg | 330mg | 270mg | 300mg | 25mg Ed | 2.5iu | 25mcg/d | 5mg EOD | ||||||
| 4 | 120mg | 330mg | 180mg | 360mg | 50mg Ed | 12.5mg EOD | .25mg 2x/wk | 2.5iu | 50mcg/d | 5mg EOD | ||||
| 5 | 120mg | 330mg | 180mg | 360mg | 50mg Ed | 50mg Ed | 12.5mg EOD | .25mg 2x/wk | 2.5iu | 50mcg/d | 5mg EOD | |||
| 6 | 120mg | 330mg | 180mg | 360mg | 50mg Ed | 50mg Ed | 12.5mg EOD | .25mg 2x/wk | 300mcg | 5mg EOD | ||||
| 7 | 120mg | 330mg | 180mg | 360mg | 50mg Ed | 12.5mg EOD | .25mg 2x/wk | 300mcg | 10mg/wk | |||||
| 8 | 120mg | 330mg | 180mg | 360mg | 60mg Ed | 12.5mg EOD | .25mg 2x/wk | 3iu | 50mcg/d | 10mg/wk | ||||
| 9 | 120mg | 330mg | 180mg | 360mg | 60mg Ed | 12.5mg EOD | .25mg 2x/wk | 3iu | 50mcg/d | 10mg/wk | ||||
| 10 | 120mg | 330mg | 180mg | 360mg | 60mg Ed | 12.5mg EOD | .25mg 2x/wk | 3iu | 50mcg/d | 10mg/wk | ||||
| 11 | 120mg | 330mg | 180mg | 360mg | 60mg Ed | 12.5mg EOD | .25mg 2x/wk | 300mcg | ||||||
| 12 | 120mg | 330mg | 180mg | 50mg ED | 360mg | 60mg Ed | 12.5mg EOD | .25mg 2x/wk | 300mcg | |||||
| 13 | 120mg | 330mg | 180mg | 50mg ED | 360mg | 60mg Ed | 12.5mg EOD | .25mg 2x/wk | 3iu | 50mcg/d | ||||
| 14 | 120mg | 330mg | 180mg | 50mg ED | 360mg | 60mg Ed | 12.5mg EOD | .25mg 2x/wk | 3iu | 50mcg/d |
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Everything I need for cycle is now in place (was waiting on the Ment e), so cycle starts today.
I hate it when you get all prepared then something like that happens. When I prepare it’s a whole thing.
First shot of ment e and I end up with covid. Need another week of recovery before starting cycle now. At least I can report there is no pip from it
Hope it’s a productive one bud
Following this cycle.
Well looks like I need way more Ment E
Were you planning on running a cycle of it?
I had to study that for a bit lol.
hope you can stick to that cal count with the appetite boost…it’s a beast.
It will be interesting to see if the ment e boosts appetite like the A does. That is the only steroid that I have used that has ever increased my appetite
As am I, bc the Ment A hit hard after just a couple days and the appetite was crazy. When hunger struck, it was almost painful to delay eating (not that I was trying at all
).
Like Layne said Mak, it would be very interesting for you to get bloods done straight after the cycle or towards the end to see if there have been any liver or kidney changes after 12 weeks.
My next round of bloodwork is scheduled for April. Will likely be a couple of months after this cycle ends, unless it is going so well that I extend which has been known to happen
. If I am feeling really funky after the cycle, then I will request bloodwork early to see what is going on. I pretty much always expect shit to be messed up while cycling, I just don't want it messed up when off, so I have been pretty diligent with bloodwork once off cycle nowadays.
I’ve never thought of that, I’m always worried about my health and stuff while on, but I guess off is what matters. I get paranoid so I think I’ll continue to get bloodwork while on just to keep my mind at ease. But I guess I should expect something’s to be off but won’t get too worried unless they don’t get back to normal when I’m off
Yeah I'm very interested to hear how the ment E works out. I have always been a fan of short esters besides dhb but I'm interested in seeing how the longer ester ment compares to the short ester. Could possibly be a future cycle for me also cuz I don't think I can run ment a for more than a month or so. But a quick question, why do you have proviron for the first few weeks and then tbol for the last few weeks? Most people run proviron to free up test to lower shbg, ment is a steroid that shbg doesn't affect.
I tap out on the ment a after a few weeks. The results are nice but I can't take all the pinning
When running lower test I always like to run some provi to make out the free test. Not an issue with the ment but I do have some test in there. If libido is too high which is annoying like last cycle I will drop it. I basically consider Tbol to be provi with just a little anabolic boost. Mainly again using it for SHBG control to max out free test with the little bit of test that I am using. Hoping it just gives a little bit of an anabolic boost last half of cycle to help combat myostatin. Been many moons since I have used tbol.
All the orals lower sbgh. The other question is how much rebound there is or can be of the sbgh after cessation of use.
I thought u said lowering shbg is bad because snbg is what "activates the testosterone and brings it where it needs to go, and that having lower shbg equals more free test is just bro science" which i have learned and agree too. Pretty funny how many people swear they "feel" the higher free test on Proviron because their shbg is lowered. To those who think that i say, obv that feel of more free test is good old dht. Enjoy. Lucky btw if your source is spiking your test with dht-stanolone.
Don't turn it into rocket science. You won't ever look like Lee priests if u don't already. Btw lee priest really don't know or understand much about steroids besides deca test dbol adrol. He don't know any bro science or science period. He was born to be able to look like that. No matter how much u think you'll learn about juice and develope your physique if your not born to look like that. You never will.
Reality. It hurts sometimes yes.
Good bless happy juicing.
Ps that last half a rant was not to u jockstrap
Oh one last thing Lee priest tried hgh for a few months and thought it wasn't worth it. So he wasn't even on hgh. Lol
If there is a rebound, I really don't notice it in a negative way. I have had to cut out provi mid cycle before because libido just became to annoying. Libido still stayed pretty strong and annoying but not as much annoying
Gains didn't seem to suffer. I guess bottom line is I wouldn't be to worried about a bump back up of SHBG, it is still most likely still being crushed due to all the other anabolics and not something I would particularly worry about.
Rebound during pct is where i was thinking. Sorry for not completing the idea. Lot of people go into pct still pushing hard in the gym like theyre still fully anabolic but not realizing the catabolic effects. When sbgh rebounds then the anabolism is minimized. We look at the same normal ideals of fsh, lh, and estrogen/prolactin(negative loop feedback) but forget endocrinology is far more complex. The idea also in pct should look towards hgh supplimentation too as a boost for axis balance. An offset to catabolism and rebound of items overlooked.
Agree on sex drive out of control! Really gets me side tracked at times. Haha!
yeah, PCT a thing of the past for me unfortunately. I just go back to my TRT the following week after cycle ends. I used to use some provi on TRT but not anymore. Still throws the body out of whack with abnormally high free test. I tend to lose very little especially when using GH and running some IGF during cycle. Still on the fence about running some LR3 this cycle.
You didn't read anything I said in my comment and said something that makes no sense.
"But a quick question, why do you have proviron for the first few weeks and then tbol for the last few weeks? Most people run proviron to free up test to lower shbg, ment is a steroid that shbg doesn't affect."
If proviron lowers sbgh as does tbol then to run both orals for the same is simply a waste of money. So switching is simple, easy and effective.
Rebound. Easy enough as rebound means that stopping a drug that lowers sbgh will result in a bounce back or heightened level of that sbgh.
Then you must just not understand English well because I literally said the same thing you just repeated to me about using it to lower shbg. And I never said anything about running both orals at the same time so I still don't understand why your telling me this and what your trying to tell me. But thanks for telling me the same thing I just said plus other things that are random.
Clearly stated yet again is running two sbgh orals at the same time is a waste of money. Your replies are strangely random.
Correct it has a low affinity for shbg. And with the Enanthate ester we can probably assume it will hold more water than it's acetate brother. I'm not a big fan myself as some have said it isn't liver toxic but I tend to think it is to a certain degree, at least more toxic than some other hormones. Now just how toxic? Who knows. Like I told you and Makwa, I've known about ment since it came to the grey market to be sold long ago.
Now if you really think, most of the very high androgenic/anabolics are somewhat toxic.
I smile when I see the Anabolic/Androgenic ratio: 2300-650
Yeah that's just plain silly! No way.
I put it more on par in terms of effect similar to the tren ratio of 500:500
True. Around 400 or 500
Yeah that's exactly what me and makwa were talking about in messages a little while ago when we were first discussing this cycle when we were first talking about ment e and that's why he's running the masteron to help cut down with water weight. But I've had blood work done, not immediately right after a ment cycle but not too far after and I didn't have any elevated values besides thrown off hdl and lol but that's normal and I can't even directly blame the ment for that because a number of things mess those up. It was originally being studied for medical use so I would feel like there would be some info about any toxicity worth mentioning but who knows. But I don't think there's any toxicity issues worth worrying about. but the andro/anabolic rating for ment is just for show and it's.not accurate, in reality I think tren is still more andro and anabolic than ment. But I understand your thoughts because it is one of the stronger compounds, and this could prove to be different because ment a is usually only ran a few weeks vs this will be ran for a lot longer than 3-4 weeks so it could be different like Stanley pointed out below.