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Starting first DBOL cycle

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Hello, just looking for advice for my AAS cycle. Im 30 and about 170 and just started TRT at 160 TestC a week. Im pretty lean and want to bulk up. I have ran two separate cycles of pro hormones about 4 weeks eachs. That was about 10 years ago. So, I plan on running DBOL at 15 or 20 a day for 4 or 6 weeks.

I just want to make sure this is a good starting dose

I plan on keep the same diet im on. About 3500 to 4000 cal a day. About 180 to 200 grams of protein. Not sure if this is too high cal intake for dbol.

Some people say to run an AI with this and some say at low doses it isn't necessary. So i just wanted to get a general consensus.
Ill be on trt so im not worried about jump starting.
Ill just be watching estrogen sides

For liver support
I know about milk thistle
Lipoic acid
Is there anything i should add to this

I plan on taking about 3000 of omega 3
My diet also contains alot of health fats with humas, yogurt and plenty of cashus

I also plan on using taurine for the back pumps

If there is any other supplements im missing please let me know.

Thank you

JakeKO's picture

Whoever told you that you don’t need an AI is a moron. You definitely need to have it in hand. Last thing you want is to find out you need it and have to wait for a shipment. I got a full blown bitch tit in a matter of days once. I went from no symptoms, to full blown symptoms overnight.

txroid's picture

Ok. I planned on waiting 4 to 6 months before i start any cycle. Wanted to do as much research as possible first and get some in sight. But ill see how my trt is and then increase my dose for a cycle to see how that feels first. So you pretty much lose most of your strength after dbol?

What would be a ideal amount of protein because every where i look says .7 to 1 g per body weight.

What would tuca and nat be for?

JakeKO's picture

Everything really depends on your goals and diet. Don’t get me wrong, Dbol can be a lot of fun, but most of the growth is superficial water weight that you will start losing immediately once you discontinue use. I don’t agree that it’s completely useless though, because if you’re training hard and eating right, you are building muscle and strength just as you would naturally. It’s the ridiculous size that you gain on it that is the most superficial, and will quickly disappear, although I always look a lot better once it happens. Most importantly, don’t even consider easing up on your training or diet once you drop it. You WILL get sloppy. By then, your TRT dose of Test C, should be kicking in nicely and continue to help you progress. You should also up your TRT dose of Test while on the Dbol to have the most fun on it. You may want to consider cutting your usage of Dbol to four weeks. Whenever I run it, I feel that I peak at four weeks, anything over that may give you a little more size, but the negative side effects start kicking in hard. A 1/4- 1/2 pill of Adex per week should prevent any bullshit, but once I go over four weeks, I tend to need more and start looking a little sloppy. Mentally, I feel very fking sloppy,. Like I said, that’s when all the bullshit really starts for me. I also have learned that less is more when it comes to dosage. At 10-20 mg per day, I’m on top of the world mentally and physically. Anything over that and I’m a little too edgy, and feel like I’m running Anadrol.

In a nutshell, I consider Dbol the Viagra of the steroid family. It gets you huge and you will feel and perform like a Rock Star. It can be a really fun ride if run correctly,. Good luck!

Rydawg's picture

Not enough protein. Add in some tuca and nac. Lots of water intake. Watch sodium.

Jrblh2's picture

Are you planning to run test with it if so what dose? I would recommend upping your testosterone and waiting on the dbol until you have a test only cycle or two under your belt. Some people get gyno and other issues from the kind of strong estrogen that dbol converts into.

steroidmen's picture

5 mg dbol half an hour before training to reduce shbg and pump it will be great.

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Makwa's picture

Just started TRT so why not see what happens with that. Dbol will put a lot of water weight on but it will all disappear when you stop.
200g of protein isn't going to build much muscle even with steroids. You will put more quality weight on by improving your diet than you will running dbol.

Makwa's picture

Min of 1.5g/lb. 2g/lb would be better.

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