+ 26 Lab results for Primo 200 and Androbolan
These are my Janoshik results for Primo 200 from OnlytheBestaas and Pharmaq Androbolan from RB.
Results were not what I had hoped for overall, but especially for the Primo which is what I suspected after having gone through 2 20 ml vials of the primo. Zero pip on large quad shots and I know primo isn’t that noticeable, but I noticed nothing. I chose this product for testing because I had 8 vials of it and I was concerned after using it, plus with the discourse I had with others who had used it.
Had not used the Androbolan yet, was going to build my next cycle around it because I have a butt tonne of it due to a reship and original pack both showing up. There was a little controversy and I have a lot so I got it tested when I had the extra cash flow. The expensive products are dosed about right. Must have just been a screwup to skimp on the Testosterone Enanthate. I can work with it, it is just good to know that I will have to add 200 mg of testosterone to get the results I’m expecting.
Maybe I can use the primo to cut DHB with to reduce pip from it. Otherwise that concentration is worthless as to how much oil I would have to pump in me. Thought I had 32 grams of methenolone enanthate, turns out I have 8 grams and a lot of oil.
OnlytheBestaas Primo
ME 1080
Exp 10/2022
Pharmaq Androbolan
Batch # 1-336900
Manufacturing date: 12/2018
Exp: 12/2022
Androbolan was ordered last November, took a while to show up due to USPS headaches
I have had the Primo from OnlytheBestaas a while longer. I was saving primo for when I got lean enough to appreciate its magic. Which I’m ready for on my next run. Used it over the last 3 months on a cruise while loosing weight for nitrogen retention.
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Bigun2I gotta say, as far as business strategies go, alienating all the higher-ranked guys on a review site seems like an odd choice. But hey, no one ever accused John of being business saavy LOL!!
Quite the contrary
Thanks brother
You the man maddogg. Keep up the good work
Edit: just got a notification that keytech removed me as a friend for this post. Lol what a child.
Lol, me too. All i said was thanks for testing. I supported keytech too the last time someone labmax tested his primo and it came back deca. I had his back another time too.
LMFAO!!! Me too
Lol its a fkn BOYCOTT
Bigun2Lmao me 3. I seriously was on his thread trying to take up for this clown when folks were making allegations without testing. Well, good news is he’s shown everyone his true colors. Not that anyone in their right minds was gonna order from him anyway after the past few weeks. Another good source gone bad.
I contemplated ordering from him for awhile, had a few convos with him that were good, we had same views on a syringe size debate on his page once, i dont understand this sensitivity. Maybe too much tren or perhaps (like the other discussion you and i were just talking about few mins ago) his E2. Maybe the adex underdosed too
Bigun2It’s way simpler than that for me. If a source can’t speak to me with respect and stand behind his products then I have 0 interest doing business with them. His Tren issues and out of whack e2 aren’t my problem. Adults treat one another with respect, period.
I’d been looking into a larger Var/Primo order from him for this summer but a few weeks ago whispers started and i kind of decided to hang back and see how things shook out. They’ve gotten progressively worse over the span of about 3 weeks. This test and his subsequent reaction just cemented my suspicions that it’s time to move on and stick to more trustworthy sources.
Well you already know my number 1 choice. Sometimes trying to save a few bills aint worth it. Im going to stick with my trusted one's.
This is very accurate, u pay 1/4 of the price u get 1/4 of the dosage LOL
Stop complaining u cheap ass
AnonThe fuck you smoke? Crack? Is that what you smoke? Is it crack?
haha very yes my friend, i was advertised a 2011 v8 mustang with 70k miles for 12 grand but no i got a v4 turbo with 140k miles instead, i guess i get what i pay for cuz ima cheap ass, smh you remind me of someone that dick rides the same source.
BigCactusIt's funny how this always ends up in a shitshow and the source calling the poster names, a liar, somebody whose out to hurt his business etc.
Keytech, all you had to say was: "I'm sorry this happened, I'm going to look into it. I will compensate the people affected by this misstake and I will make sure from here on the product is well dosed."
Is that so hard to do? These sources need PR management...damn.
That's because all that matters to these type of people is money and income, they could not care less about their customers one bit. Where at any point have you seen him say 'Sorry to all my customers who I have been supplying with 25% hormone content products, I am sorry I have been affecting your training results and therefore hours of training in the gym has been lost because your recovery has been minimal at best'. No you don't, you won't ever see anything like that from someone who thinks only of himself.
I got fake anadrol and viagra from him a while back.
Bigun2I agree with everything you guys have said. I think we as consumers speak with our $. That’s why posts like this are so valuable. A member brought to a sources attention that he was selling a subpar product. The source showed he gave 0 fucks. We, as consumers, should punish said source by doing business with other sources that care about their customers.
Money speaks. It’s that way in all of life. When enough business leaves the source they will start to care about customer service and integrity or they will go out of business. I’ve seen it so many times here over the years. Source comes out and is great. They stumble, their quality suffers, they don’t fix problems and then one day they close up shop once enough customers leave for better sources. It’s what makes this site so valuable, and members like maddog are the backbone of that ecosystem. I’ve spoke to him via PM and thanked him for his service to us all. It’s not a small thing he’s done.
If you sell garbage for 140$, claiming for 200mg/ml, then put atleast 100mg substance in it, fcking dckheads.
TricepatopsWhat did the owner of only the best have to say
AnonFuck. I've got a pile of the pharmaqo primo e100 and test 300 and mast 200..All from RB.
I've seen the tests the pharmaqo brewer did afterwards but I mean...c'mon... Would you send the same stuff out or whip up a new batch real quick..
It's like $100 per vial to test isn't it?
I’m pretty sure the prop was killer thou because very little of it spiked my test level on an unexpected test to almost 1300 with 100 mg pharmacy cyp and about 35 mg prop 39 hours later.
AnonYeah it tested almost 150mg I think, but labeled at 100mg/ml. I believe press1 has had good luck with the lab overall.
Their primo on promo was like $50... That's the only reason I, among others, were skeptical. Shred and I definitely noticed a "difference" when we switched to the test 300 but neither of us had tests done so we backed off. It's not something to accuse people of without an analysis.
Well, the Androbolan had the right amount of primo in it more or less. It doesn't make sense to skimp on the test when the other 2 compounds are among the most expensive. Just stupid and or sloppy by the lab. A lab that size couldn't be much more than a couple dollars at most for the 100mg.
Lmao yup I hopped on that promo. Got 24 vials lol.
Yes. But the fed ex is bad. 127 for economy. So really it is worth it to send more than one. Express would have been about $40 more for 2nd day delivery. Mine was 5 days later than they said it would be. It kept showing arrival and departure at the same place in Europe for several days like it was the Griswald’s on European vacation stuck in a roundabout lol. And it will go out in your name because they scan a gov’t ID. I think post office is cheaper but Jano preferred fedex
Thanks for testing brother +1
Sorry you're stuck w/this garbage gear, but this doesn't surprise me. Dudes gear has tested all over the place.
I haven't read all the comments, but I assume he's already insulted you and accused you of trying to trash his perfect reputation?
Pretty much. I new like you did that would be coming. I just didn’t think it would bother me so much and it would blow up so fast.
Don't let clowns like this get under your skin. It sucks that you have to take an L on this one, but you've done a great service to the community my man. We appreciate you.
just to let you know brother, try to black out the email a little harder
Anon+2 thank you.
I had that same PharmaQo Andro 400 batch and exp from the same source. I was pinning 2mL a week of that PharmaQo Andro 400 and some PharmaQo Test thinking I was pining over 700mg of Test a week...it was like I had stopped my cycle and was only running my AI (which was a different brand AI and legit)...I'm sure you can imagine. Crashed E and crashed E symptoms. Heartburn really bad too. I suspect the raws, carrier oil, or whatever else is in that PharmaQo oils is shit quality. I thought I was upping my overall Test when I switched to all PharmaQo oils, clearly not, and my legit AI dosage I run for 500mg or more of Test a week crashed my E. My training took a hit.
So I'm not surprised to see the Andro 400 results posted here of 98.49mg/mL of Test E instead of the advertised 200+mg/mL that was posted when I ordered it.
1st PharmaQo's Andro 400 posted lab results:
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/157647/Pharmaqo-Andro...
Test E 231.90
Primo E 113.11
Mast E 115.75
(same batch number that you and I got)
2nd PharmaQo's Andro 400 posted lab results:
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/IMG_20210317_151245_4...
Test E 196.86
Primo E 99.32
Mast E 104.27
(batch and exp not listed)
And then there is your lab results for the PharmaQo Andro 400
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/140046/E045E545-E852-...
Test E 98.49 (A LOT lower than both PharmaQo's lab results)
Primo E 96.23 (lower than both PharmaQo's lab results)
Mast E 99.78 (lower than both PharmaQo's lab results)
I still believe RB is an honest guy and great source. I also believe RB was co-victim and unware that the PharmaQo gear I received wasn't what it was advertised to be. Which makes RB co-victim. RB was very professional about it all and I respect him for it. And that is why I spoke with BFG and had my rating changed to all 10 stars.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkBigCactusDamn you were right bro all allong, mr pharmaqo is such a scumbag. Just look at this behaviour. I'm 100% RB has nothing to do with it. All he's doing is cleaning up the mess these labs are making by giving out free gear to compensate for the trash.
Mad respect to you for standing by your word though. Even when you got banned for a minute for it.
AnonI did not get banned for it.
The mods didn't temporarily ban me for speaking up and standing by my word. In fact, the mods made it clear I was within my rights to post a bad review and share my experience.
I was banned for a minute by the mods because of my behavior on this website. I was given a warning first too. One of my comments even broke the posting rules and was flagged for such. I was not treated unjustly by mods.
I felt the need to clarify this.
BigCactusOh my bad it seemed that way. Anyway good you stood by your word even when all the arrows where pointed at you. Honestly even I was doubting you for a sec. I was like really this guy is claiming the test amount is off based on his feeling. Then I saw mrpharmaqo behaviour and I knew something was off.
I began to question it when you gave your feed back. I had a lot and was getting ready to run it so sending off a sample was nothing in terms of the gear.
Fuck man. This is what I’ve been saying for so long. The source will whip up a overdosed batch and send it for testing. It comes back good then he brews a new underdosed batch and unleashes that dogshit on us. That’s why I keep testing and keep pushing for other guys to do the same. I got a shitload of primo from Pharmqo on the way. If it’s underdosed I hope RB would do the right thing and possibly give me a refund.
BigCactusThats why I don't trust sources or labs testing. Ofcourse they are gonna send good gear, has a lab ever posted bad labwork? NEVER. Labs and sources shouldn't be allowed to post labwork imo. There is no way to check how legit it is. There is no way to check if they just made 1 good batch of vials without labels on it and then just put a recent label on it and send it our for testing each time they need some propaganda.
That’s why I’m doing as much testing as possible. I’ve spent close to $2800. That’s not including the $175 shipping for each pack I sent.
BigCactusLet me quote something from the haarlem studies, some context: 100 steroid users were involved in testing how effective pct is. They were allowed to use their own steroids, the steroids were tested and I quote:
"AAS quality was strikingly low. Only 47% of samples tested contained the specific AAS subtype as declared on the label. Only 13% of samples solely contained the declared AAS. No AAS brand showed consistent results."
Pm me with a link so I can start testing gear. Sent friend req
Just search for Janoshik or lab4tox
AnonRB was very professional. I on the other hand did not handle things in a professional manner. I was mad. What I was training for was very important to me and nothing could fix it, except a time machine to go back in time and not run PharmaQo gear. RB offered to send me other gear. I refused any form of compensation from RB. Because I didn't like how accepting compensation could possibly make me look after my unprofessional handling of the situation. More gear wouldn't have fixed things anyway. The mods even had to get on my ass because of my behavior.
The testing on all the PharmaQo gear wasn't done by RB. It was done by PharmaQo. RB didn't know. RB didn't send off samples to be tested. RB was co-victim. And I had gotten lots of other brands from RB in the past and it was all great. I'm glad BFG was able to fix the ratings for my review because RB didn't deserve the bad rating.
That’s good to hear. I reached out to him also about the underdosed Aslan primo as well. He seems like a good dude.
Thanks for paying and then sharing the test report bro. Also congratulations for handling yourself with some decorum in the comments while the source is clearly trying to drag you down to his level.
Speaking for myself 1 test report from a respected member like our boy maddog is worth 100 uploads from sources, even if it’s year old gear.
100% agree with you brotha
Bigun2Agree with this statement 110%. The trend of users having gear tested is definitely a move in the right direction as it pertains to customer safety and source accountability. Just wish more sources would take the lab results as valuable feedback to better their operations as opposed to becoming defensive and attacking the person who’s provided the feedback.
If I own a business and I’m putting out subpar product I would want to know that. That’s valuable information. I understand being passionate about your business, but attacking the messenger is unacceptable in my opinions. People want a source who’s going to be a partner for when the inevitable hiccups come along. People also pay attention to posts like this and it influences their shopping decisions when the matter isn’t handled properly as well.
Shit happens in life, it’s inevitable there will be tough situations; how we react and respond when it turns difficult defines who we are as men. It’s easy to do the right thing when things are going well. It’s much harder to stand 10 toes down and say “shit got fucked up, I accept responsibility for it and ___ is what I’m going to do to make it right”.
1) i will buy a car and after 1 year and a half I will tell the seller that the car had an engine failure, surely the seller will believe me! In fact he didn't ask me for anything, no email or pm for this problem, he came here to discredit me, so being you a smart guy, I let you imagine why he did it!
2) All these people writing against me are no longer my clients, are haters, so I let you imagine, I'm quite polite and friendly to my respectable clients.
3) As a trader, no one will listen to a customer complaint about merchandise purchased 16 months ago 'and manufactured about 2 years ago'. I sent a pm, he didn't even answer me
BigCactusNobody needs permission or needs to talk to the source first to post labwork buddy, this is not the peoples republic of china where everything is heavily regulated. You need to take a step back and reasses your behaviour and comments.
Also, these guys posting these results have great reputations, are very active, unselfish, and very believable. These guys are the backbone of this community.
You asked me why I posted this and didn’t come to you in a PM first? For what? To do a quid pro quo where I don’t post this if you do something? That would be completely corrupt. It was a forgone conclusion that the lab would be posted when I paid for it no matter the outcome. Same as the lab work for RB’s gear. He is super nice to me and cool as shit and I will do what I can for him because he is a good human. But I won’t collaborate with him at the expense of the members here or anyone for my benefit. Once it was sent off it was getting posted. And yes it was for me too so I would know what I was running on my next cycle which was going to be the Androbolan and your Primo. I was not going to originally test your gear, but doubt crept into my head because of what others were saying and I was right to doubt it because it turns out they were right.
Maybe you just can’t understand that because you are not like me. There are 3 things I preach to my daughter. Do not collaborate for the benefit of yourself at the expense of others. Don’t ever be corrupt and don’t lie. Those are the things I’ve lived by and if everyone did the world would be a pretty good place, but clearly it isn’t. My kid will be one of the good guys because those are the things she believes in. I just hope there will be enough like her in the future. I hope you aren’t raising any children because you are corrupt and selfish and that evil is contagious. I have broken many of mans laws and faced a lot of time for it. But I have always been true to real morals and ethics and empathy. Inspite of all that I have done, I haven’t done wrong by my fellow man and I know I’m right with God.
So that is why I failed to collaborate with you for your’s and my benefit at the expense of the eroids community.
The car analogy to gear is like apples to oranges. But not even that. At least they are both fruits. If you want to use a car analogy, it would be more like I bought a car, not quite 1 and 1/4 years ago. It was supposed to be a Dodge Viper with a V12 in it. It was delivered to my house on a trailer undriven until 3 months ago. I’m thinking “Damn, this thing is underpowered “. So I take it to a mechanic (Lab) who says “This thing doesn’t have a V12 in it, it has some cheep Chinese inline 3 in it”. 50mg vs 200mg. Then the dealer definitely fucked you over whether he meant to or not.