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+ 26 Lab results for Primo 200 and Androbolan

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These are my Janoshik results for Primo 200 from OnlytheBestaas and Pharmaq Androbolan from RB.

Results were not what I had hoped for overall, but especially for the Primo which is what I suspected after having gone through 2 20 ml vials of the primo. Zero pip on large quad shots and I know primo isn’t that noticeable, but I noticed nothing. I chose this product for testing because I had 8 vials of it and I was concerned after using it, plus with the discourse I had with others who had used it.

Had not used the Androbolan yet, was going to build my next cycle around it because I have a butt tonne of it due to a reship and original pack both showing up. There was a little controversy and I have a lot so I got it tested when I had the extra cash flow. The expensive products are dosed about right. Must have just been a screwup to skimp on the Testosterone Enanthate. I can work with it, it is just good to know that I will have to add 200 mg of testosterone to get the results I’m expecting.

Maybe I can use the primo to cut DHB with to reduce pip from it. Otherwise that concentration is worthless as to how much oil I would have to pump in me. Thought I had 32 grams of methenolone enanthate, turns out I have 8 grams and a lot of oil.

OnlytheBestaas Primo
ME 1080
Exp 10/2022

Pharmaq Androbolan
Batch # 1-336900
Manufacturing date: 12/2018
Exp: 12/2022

Androbolan was ordered last November, took a while to show up due to USPS headaches

I have had the Primo from OnlytheBestaas a while longer. I was saving primo for when I got lean enough to appreciate its magic. Which I’m ready for on my next run. Used it over the last 3 months on a cruise while loosing weight for nitrogen retention.

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thahulk2014's picture

Garbage primo. Smh

Redmanlfc's picture

Thanks for this Maddogg, much appreciated, +1

juicechase's picture

fuck man . so much bull shit to deal with buying from ugl sources. on every forum there is alot of testing being done now by individuals and most lab work comes back like this. the day of you ugl sources getting away from your untested gear is nearing its end. everybody is sending in samples now to get there gear tested, so for you stupid fucking sources out there that want to sell gear and remain trust worthy. send your fuckin raws for testing before brewing them and sending them out to customers. there is so much fuckery going on now and im glad im seeing all these lab tests being conducted by individuals .

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Steveking1980's picture

I hope this gets worked out for you. + for the testing. You do a lot of the community and it’s appreciated

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press1's picture

Its now Monday Mol Lol Its rolled off the board now ...

Jonwiggs8's picture

It's so strange that they would put the right amount of expensive stuff but only put half the amount of the cheapest compound. Why?

mujeriego's picture

The sources pathetic response just makes him look guilty af to be honest. It’s sad cause some of these sources don’t realise that they can actually come out of this looking much better if they respond appropriately and fix the issue accordingly. They can gain even more trust from members if they handle things properly.

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keytech's picture

if he had sent a sealed vial with a label the test would have been correct, janoshik would have transcribed the lot number and manufacturer of the oil in the test, then he would have had to contact me and ask to fix it amicably! Always within the time limits that you do not arouse suspicion, not after almost 1 year and a half! Anyone can put some oil in a bottle send to test and say it is from a certain source to land it! They did so at Anasci in fact tests have been suspended. I send oil vials and bottles of sealed and labeled tabs from our sales warehouses and not from the factory that might cheat, so that I have a safe test that guarantees me that their job was done right!

If I asked the factory for a refund for a bad production two years ago, they wouldn't believe me, they wouldn't refund me and they would even take me for an idiot for complaining after two years

GrowMore's picture

if he had sent a sealed vial with a label the test would have been correct, janoshik would have transcribed the lot number and manufacturer of the oil in the test, then he would have had to contact me and ask to fix it amicably!

So although Jano is an honest man when it comes to blind samples he will take pay offs when offered to him by sources.

Lads all thank OTB for confirming our suspicions and debunking janko! What a cracking thread this turned out to be.

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Serrajitsu0876's picture

Lol debunking Jano? You guys are out of your mind. Just because he posts results from shitty labs that pay to be here no one likes him. Some of you guys are hysterical. Sign up for another promo while your at it for some of that fire gear, just make sure you pay the rent lmao!

GrowMore's picture

I don’t understand your reply to the context of my comment. I don’t think you’ve read the whole thread fella.

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maddogg's picture

Hey buddy, he is being sarcastic. He knows the test was legit and keytech is a scoundrel. There are maybe only one or two guys on this entire site that have any dour of that.

Halsey's picture

I understand you loud and clear. He must of been drinking or something.

Halsey's picture

I know, him and the Maddoggy are eroid hero's for sure. Both them guys did the right thing and took a alot of heat for it. I meant no disrespect to him whatsoever.

Serrajitsu0876's picture

Sorry couldn’t tell if you were being sarcastic or serious.

keytech's picture

my friend, sorry my bad encglish, customer if it would have received HPLC not good, it should contact me to solve the problem friendly

press1's picture

It's also extremely clear that everyone receiving Test prop that smells and hurts from Guaiacol is actually getting TNE instead, The excuse of adding it in after to help with the cold weather deliveries is one of the funniest things I've ever heard, as if he's actually thinking of his customers and trying to help them, yeah right. In 7 years of using Test prop I've never had any that contain guaiacol - Look up the case studies of it online, the stuff is basically toxic.

mujeriego's picture

We send blind unlabelled samples so we know that the testing lab is doing it’s job. There has been instances where certain people claimed to test gear and were complete scammers. Jano is good now but even he had a shady reputation once upon a time. He has proved himself because of all the blind samples he has done now.

The time frame doesn’t matter, I have some vials from other labs that I’ve had for around a year or so as well and won’t be using for at least another few months either. It’s very common for members that use long term to do this.

I don’t know what happened at Anasci but I never trusted those guys anyway. Lots of shady people from professional muscle that protect sources.

And on your last point, he hasn’t even asked you for a refund lol. He literally has nothing to gain from this bad result except that now he knows he was wasting his time with crap and can now find something better.

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maddogg's picture

That is what I was going to do. Janoshik said “why would you do that? I only need .5 to 1 ml.” Also I though to my self “Well he does way more business with sources than customers. Maybe he won’t want to bite the hands that feed him.” Plus I walked into there with the pack open which made the whole thing way more chill and I told them it was liquid HMB that I was going to sell to my customers vs Vegetable oil as a control for a blind sample so I knew the lab couldn’t fool me. Also I’ll know the truth for sure then and hope my reputation is good enough to carry it the rest they way, which with the benefit of hind sight, clearly it was. With the Androbolan, did I filter out half the testosterone and leave the two other compounds untouched? GTFO. And you keep exaggerating the time line in your favor. YES, this lab report was bad for you, but your response made it many multiples worse.

keytech's picture

Janoshik said me if you want to send 1 ml is enough for me to test, I did it only once and the customers began to doubt, rightly there was no lot number, brand, expiry date, it was only written 'oil'. So don't listen to it and send whole bottles from any source! Many factories that produce for many brands on board if you are famous will contact you, they will send proofs of their production for famous brands, you will test them by spending a lot of money and when a product does not stay well, they will say that their tests are right, for this in 2020 we opened our production, and havent more this problem, so you guys test every source even the most expensive, which according to you is the best! It will be funny the results!

DbolAndAll's picture

dude just stop with the cocky were the best behavior, its not helping. just say oh i fucked up already it will help you out instead of continuing this bullshit holy fuck

keytech's picture

To know how much the hormone degrades you can ask janoshik to do thousands of tests, the funny thing is to buy goods and inject after 2-5 years, without considering that the oil rancid, goes bad, rots, becomes acid, it is not only as you see it a power problem, but to inject yourself with a bad oil, all this is absurd! Peoples are crazy

keytech's picture

If you send a vial with primobolan on the label and testosterone in it, janoshik will recognize it and report to you that testosterone instead of methenolone. Seeing is believing!

maddogg's picture

What? I can’t even make sense of that. It is late I guess.

Big Tone36's picture

I also question every src with this compound. Because its expensive and hard to find good pure raws. Not long ago from his later batch a few months back a member posted a very positive result of 187mg/ml with less than a full cc sent for testing. Obviously maddog says is last year batch but like i said he may of not even know of it Because they didn't test thier own stuff, the lab fkd up recipe, or raws were shit. Either way his reaction not only to maddogg but also everyone who commented on this post deleting friends says what type of individual were dealing with

Bearded_muscle's picture

We used to have a domestic here who tested every batch of raws and posted the results immediately. Then he’d brew, and he’d send the oils for testing too. 100% transparency. And guess what? His shit was always on point. Sometimes his inventory was light because raws he got weren’t up to his standards but he’d rather not sell than sell crap. Miss that src. Only a few labs I trust with primo these days...

Big Tone36's picture

Proper thing

mujeriego's picture

I know who you're talking about. I never got to try his products as I'm not in the states but I remember him being stand up. That's the level every lab should aspire too. I remember his batches would sell out straight away.

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mujeriego's picture

Honestly the raws thing is not even an excuse. As a source you should know primo raws can be hit or miss. You take accountability and test every batch of raws you get and if it's not good enough you don't brew with it and you don't put it out for sale. If he got fucked over by his partner or brewer then yeah different story but even then his response is still shit.

All he had to do was say sorry guys my last brewer must of fucked up on this older batch, we promise our new batches are better and we will do our best to ensure future batches are good quality too. I offer some incentives for any members who have a newer batch of my primo to send a vial for testing and post the results.

How hard was that?

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Big Tone36's picture

Agreed

Bill1976's picture

Just got deleted lol.

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dbombs's picture

Yep... me too. Good riddance.

Big Tone36's picture

Lmfao. This is the first time ive seen such a thing

press1's picture

When a source says you need to inject his gear 1.5 inches so you don't get any PIP what do you think that tells you? I've never heard such madness.

DbolAndAll's picture

^ this, I pinned with slin pins in my quads delts and pecs, only time i get swelling is using his shit. cause it has EO in it, his solution like you said was to pin deeper... what!?

Big Tone36's picture

I like 1.5 inch syringe 23g this is my personal opinion but i think deeper the better, and less prone to infection not for pip purpose because it doesn't matter for this a bad shot is a bad shot, but i think there is more receptor sites in deeper tissue. This is why i like inject bigger body parts too, lats, delts, glutes. But if the compound is notorious for PIP like his 200 mg test prop. It doesn't matter your getting lumped up still no matter what syringe size