+ 26 Lab results for Primo 200 and Androbolan
These are my Janoshik results for Primo 200 from OnlytheBestaas and Pharmaq Androbolan from RB.
Results were not what I had hoped for overall, but especially for the Primo which is what I suspected after having gone through 2 20 ml vials of the primo. Zero pip on large quad shots and I know primo isn’t that noticeable, but I noticed nothing. I chose this product for testing because I had 8 vials of it and I was concerned after using it, plus with the discourse I had with others who had used it.
Had not used the Androbolan yet, was going to build my next cycle around it because I have a butt tonne of it due to a reship and original pack both showing up. There was a little controversy and I have a lot so I got it tested when I had the extra cash flow. The expensive products are dosed about right. Must have just been a screwup to skimp on the Testosterone Enanthate. I can work with it, it is just good to know that I will have to add 200 mg of testosterone to get the results I’m expecting.
Maybe I can use the primo to cut DHB with to reduce pip from it. Otherwise that concentration is worthless as to how much oil I would have to pump in me. Thought I had 32 grams of methenolone enanthate, turns out I have 8 grams and a lot of oil.
OnlytheBestaas Primo
ME 1080
Exp 10/2022
Pharmaq Androbolan
Batch # 1-336900
Manufacturing date: 12/2018
Exp: 12/2022
Androbolan was ordered last November, took a while to show up due to USPS headaches
I have had the Primo from OnlytheBestaas a while longer. I was saving primo for when I got lean enough to appreciate its magic. Which I’m ready for on my next run. Used it over the last 3 months on a cruise while loosing weight for nitrogen retention.
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I wasn’t going to write anything else as it’s I don’t have a dog in this but members like you make eroids a safer place for US ALL TO BUY GEAR. I agree with everything you’ve said and wish I could send you more than a rubbish +2.
This post is 100% on point!
Bigun2I’m not trying to argue with you. I’ve always gotten products from you that have done what I expected and you and I have always spoken to each other with respect.
This man bought something from you and it’s not what he was promised. He has HPLC verified evidence his Primo is underdosed by 75%. I know you are in the BB Industry bro. If someone sold you 75% underdosed gear what would you expect? How would you feel?
I’ll say this and then I will be quiet. The optics on the past few weeks stink. If 1 or 2 guys are talking shit I say where is your proof? Maybe they’re trying to discredit you or hurt your business. I’ve even been on your SI asking people for their proof.
If 20 dudes are having problems and they have HPLC tests to back up their accusations then something is up. Mistakes happen. You didn’t brew the gear, it was an old business acquaintance. I don’t think you knowingly sold this man underdosed gear, but all the same he got under dosed gear from you. He didn’t get what he paid for. He has undeniable proof to show that. I ask what you’re going to do about it?
Make the man whole and move on. It’s peanuts to you. You’ve got more business than you know what to do with. Settle up with Maddog, let the community see you’re a honest source and make things right when mistakes happen and let’s move on. He’s in the right on this one, bro. I hope you do the right thing.
The thing with The Dogg too is we all know he's one of the most Trustable and Dignified members on here - absolutely no reason at all to doubt his tests in the slightest. The fact he has EVEN gone out of his way and PAID for the 2 tests and packed and posted them, how many of us would actually do this to also help all of the community out.
He is an Absolute credit to the site and in my opinion the source should be reimbursing him for testing the product and bringing up issues that are clearly wrong with it, not hurling abuse at him for daring to test his product just 1 year later!! Oils should be good for 4 to 5 years after production, shouldn't even be an issue.
Spot on, Maddog is top notch!
The active ingredient could be stable enough for 2 years, the classic oil begins to rancid after two years, the mixture of EO and fractionated coconut oil after 3 years, but here I just think I'm wasting my breath
So far I've used his primo, viagra, and sdrol. All garbage. He admitted there was an with his viagra his source thread months ago... your test confirms what I suspected about his primo.
If it sounds to good to be true, it usually is, which is why i went back to rimos. +1 for testing pal.
maddogg I sent you a pm here to help you 2 hours ago, but I didn't have any answer
Damn. Definitely doesn’t not make me feel good about the Winstrol Oil I got from OOTB. Although I do know that’s rarely faked or underdosed
Bigun2Always a +1 for testing. Thanks for providing a valuable service to the community.
DobermannI called his primo that is crap
Now i know i was right lol
I was definitely thinking of you when I sent this in.
Im sorry about the results brother. +1 of course for posting. Even though my primo tested legit from Onlythebest I will never buy from him again. How he has responded to you and other customers is ridiculous and unprofessional.
BigCactusI think the test in the androbolan must have been an error,why skimp on the cheapest compound in the whole mix?
BigCactusLol the source being super salty and acting like a child instead of doing damage control...
Whatsup with sources not acting like professional adults these days...
Molinin302Exactly why I stick with the ones I use.
I HAVE CHECK WEBSITE ORDER, Have you bought your PRIMOBOLAN from me on 2 January 2020 and you're testing now? It seems to me that you want to throw mud on me and nothing else!
John why does it matter when? If he had bought it and tested it immediately it still would have been low, and people would still be unsure what to think now. All he did was delay the result.
I just wanted to know what I was putting in my body so I can accurately dose what I was running. Why would I spend my hard earned money that I earn through hard manual labor to throw mud at you. I had not started running it until 3 months ago. Based on the banter on your SI page I became concerned. That included well respected members who know what they are doing. I was about to invest a lot of hard work into all that goes with a cycle and I don't want to waste anymore of my life and additional money besides what I already gave you, thinking I am accomplishing something I am not accomplishing. My last cycle was underwhelming due to under dosed Testosterone. I am not young and don't want to waste anymore of the time I have left. To send in a sample and pay for it just to throw mud at you is nonsensical. There are enough people who populate this sight that know I am NOTHING LIKE THAT! I have asked for nothing. I have not threatened you or tried to shake you down. I have never done that to ANYONE EVER. I don't understand people who do things out of malice. There must be completely different species of humans, I am not one of those.
You react like this every time to everyone. You immediately start throwing poop like a monkey at everyone.
I hereby demand an apology, but I doubt you are man enough for that.
Tell me to be a good guy, why didn't you take the test when you bought and not after a year and a half? I don't understand what sense does it have all this, buy almost a year and a half before?
I could have helped you, because when I introduced 20 ml, it produced them an external factory, different bottles, then in 2020 we opened our oil and tabs factory with my GH partner. I am an adult man and I want a lot to my work, it must be the best and more precise as possible, I don't like to disappoint the clients, until I will be here I will do my best, I love my job!
It's normal for a lot of us to hold onto gear for a while. I have at least 200-300 ml of gear that I purchased from last year that I won't even use until later this year and after. The one's that are in this game for a long time do this often. So yes it does make sense.
Doesn't matter when he tested, thats his prerogative, the bottom line is that the compound is underdosed. Don't make excuses and make things right. It's not mudd, it's a legitimate lab test, PROOF! Take responsibility for your product when is good and when it's not.
If you had an external partner why not test the product to make sure he’s doing his job correctly?
always, I do it every month, in 2019 I bought from a factory that produces for many other srcs and this is the result,from 2020 we have our factory, that was the goods of 2019
Word of advice if,
“ you don’t like to disappoint the clients , until I will be here do my best, love my job!”
I would start with the way you speak to customers and not insult them. Your professionalism is the worst I’ve seen or read from any source here. It doesn’t matter when he got it tested there is a huge problem with under-dosing. You focus your energy on ripping his testing time line instead of the poor quality of the product you put your name on.
The way you fly of the hinge and treat members like they are in a trap house is complete bullshit. You really need to examine your attitude and come clean with whatever the hell is going on.
I understand where you’re coming from John, I really do, it’s a lot of effort to run a business, which is what this is. The only issue people have is that you need to go and set the record straight, just admit that this was a fuck up, but you’re guaranteed gonna keep killing it like you said. I respect someone more when they don’t let a mistake get to them but rather use it as a means to show they are willing to make the customer happy and ensure quality in their products. I’m certain you produce good stuff and probably just got screwed by an outside force somehow, but explain what might have gone wrong and how you’ve since resolved it. I like your stuff a lot John
Please reread the post you responded to above. I contains the answers to your question.
john you dont seem to understand that it doesnt matter when he bought it, if he bought it from you and its advertised as 200mg/ml it should be damn near close. the time its been sitting in a vial will not degrade that fast. just like you tell some old customers in your SI leave your complaint and move on
friend does not work so, damage to the producer can be claimed within 3 months, no when you like it, but talking to you is useless
why do you selectively speak broken english?? again it does'nt matter if he bought it back in 2020 if you sold primo advertised at 200mg/ml it should be just that. hes not throwing mud in your face. if results came back positive it would benefit you. it is what it is.
knew it was too good to be true however mine was an older batch, i already tossed his primo 3 days ago. either way waste of 338$ on 2 vials
I'm pretty sure John selective scams people. He makes an accurately dosed vial of something, gets testing on it, posts the results to convince people its accurately dosed. Then when you order what you actually get is some severely underdosed stuff. I have 5 trest vials from him that I'm now wondering if they are even close to 50mg/ml at all. Probably 25mg/ml or lower sigh. The 20ml vials for that cheap is too good to be true. Not going to order from him anymore, really sloppy source
customers have test my primo more 184mg/ml , damn idiot!
Lol 184 only? Why not 200mg/ml like it's supposed to be? You are the idiot John, you don't even know how to make quality properly dosed gear. You don't deserve to have your business
John to be honest, you are a horrible person, you run a shitty business and I'm going to make sure everyone knows this
Your reaction to all of this is completely predictable and I anticipated it unfortunately. It is too bad you have to be like this all the time. I know RB is not going to start motherfucking me over the Androbolan, like you would. I am straight up. To bad you don't like people who say it like it is. Honest to a fault.
DobermannScrew this srs he is trash
Thank you for jumping in. This guy is garbage and why I left him months ago. I would rather pay for quality. I have had enough of this guys mouth. Learn how to treat customers..
DobermannYep ur right bro ;)
i have sent a PM for help you
I have seen people saying that, and I found it concerning. A few people, you will have saying that with every source. After a while a pattern starts to develop that is increasing difficult to discount.
please send mePM with original test link from Janoshik, and info me when you have buy this primo and number order,thanks!
This guy also used to purposely overdose his test vials, supposed to be 250mg/ml but testing showed 300mg/ml, he said he thought the customers would 'like' this. I'm like wtf dude, if I order 250mg/ml I fucking expect 250mg/ml.....source is a joke
He basically relies on his customers being too cheap to get his vials tested. Thank fucking god you tested this it's really going to open some eyes.
So its supposed to be pushing 200mg/ml and it's actually 49mg/ml bud??!
That is correct.
Wow. It’s gotta be guys getting the same raws and not testing. My primo was 25/100mg and yours is 50/200mg. That sucks man. I have a shitload of Pharmqo primo on the way I really really hope it’s good. Thanks for testing brother!
The raw thing doesn't count for this source as he states here https://prnt.sc/11lakxb
I want to tell if the product is dosed at 200mg for ml, did not ask my partner compensation if it is tested at 180mg, because there is a 10% waste due to a production error, I meant, in pharmacology an error is admitted up to 10%, underdosed or overdosed
Hopefully your Pharmqo is right. the Primo in the Androbolan was basically on. Who's primo was 25/100? Maybe you can't cross post here. FR sent. I'll look at your labs again, thanks!