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Hope everyone is well on this Friday evening, not a great week for me, but not terrible so I'll take it. I have a question, and this is a great place for it. I'm very knowledgeable about physiological processes, but not so much with these compounds. With that being said, I'm currently on TRT, clinic, so its a heavy cruise. For now I'm ok with it, my PCP knows what I do and I'm in very healthy ranges. Ok, so when we look to start a cycle, or go from cruise to blast, the thing that is baffling me is the frontloading of long esters. I saw I little while back someone was doing it with Deca. This theory makes no sense to me. When half lives and the variable absorption rates of individuals are considered, instead of preloading long esters should we not introduce short esters or a blend as it will be utilized at a better rate? I like to compare things to OTC medications, would it make sense to take a double dose of extended release headache medicine, or an extended release with something fast acting like alka-seltzer? (Almost immediate). I'm going to appreciate the feedback, best wishes to all.

Sam I Am's picture

Personally I usually kickstart with prop.

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DbolAndAll's picture

thats literally my cycle rn bro, im 1 week in

Bill G's picture

Your going to get a mixed bag on this one. I will agree on the adding a short ester at the beginning instead of front loading. Seems to me double dosing a long ester will just compound the sides when it does hit. My 2 cents. Just from my experience with deca and npp. Deca is gold around week 6 and npp hits in a week. So a stack involving deca can be sped up with the short and when the long hits drop it and ride the deca. I would also prefer to either do one or the other . A 6 week npp cycle is a good start instead of a 12 or 16 week of deca.

Side note im eating that steak you bought with my lady tonight. Its delicious and a huge baked potato.

Pumped_'s picture

Ive always agreed with Shred and Billy G. Supplement with an oral or a short ester. You will get 50 say front load and 50 say its overrated but the end trial results are not that far apart enough to say which one is actually the most beneficial. Guess it depends on your sides. Ive always stayed away from front loading and just use that amount to stay on a week or more.

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Bill G's picture

Also , I didn't allude to the idea with front loading just causing a spike in levels causing a spike in side effects and also still having to wait the long period. Then just to experience a let down when the levels plane out.

And yes, 16 bone in new York strip, fully loaded baked potato, (jacketed potato for press). Also the tiny loaf of bread and coconut shrimps.

press1's picture

Aah Ya made me laugh Bill when I saw that Lol

Not shrimp - 'Prawn's haha

Bill G's picture

Prawns!
Got it.

My auntie always said they are the cockroach of the ocean. She's a drunk liberal from California though so I never listened to her. Ocean roaches are delicious

press1's picture

You ever eaten one of those Puffa Fish?

Bill G's picture

No. Not my flavor profile. I prefer the non poisonous types of fish

press1's picture

Oh c'mon live a little Mr G - Why not dice with death when eating?

Man its got cold here now, 6 C currently. Got my slippers on the floor is so cold Lol

press1's picture

Even the tren isn't keeping me warm, speaking of tren coming off it now. Sick to death of it and adrol Lol

Bill G's picture

What you getting tooooo strong bro?

press1's picture

I've just hit that stage with it where I just feel knackered, winded and shit with it all the time Lol

Feeling winded just from washing your hair in the shower is no longer fun mate. You can just tell the inside of you is now unhealthy as fawk Lol

press1's picture

What the Hell is a macaroon Mol? Lol

Slowly's picture

It is a typical Italian dessert with a strong taste.

press1's picture

They come from Italy Mol LMAO

Bill G's picture

I prefer a rib eye for flavor. The restaurants will never make it as I do( as perfection) at home. So the strip is a safer bet .

Pumped_'s picture

In this order
1. Ribeye
2. Newyork strip
3. Porterhouse or tbone
4. Filet
5. Petite sirloin.
Thats my order of best to least. But i imagine in heaven a plate with all 5 and a stomach big enough to finish the plate.

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press1's picture

I had Bourbon Beef Brisket with onion mash potatoe last night if that turns anyone on at all LOL

Bill G's picture

I had some serious morning wood if that counts. Sounds delicious

Pumped_'s picture

I prefer sweet potato over a bland white potato unless i load with massive butter. Oh yeah i forgot the topic of the week is health and cholesterol lol. But like a mashed (not whipped) potatos with onions mixed is good

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press1's picture

I love a white jacket with tonnes of butter and salt on top, then tuna mayo and grated cheese :-)

Or Chilli beef and cheese

Or Cajun Chicken

Or just with some Southern Fried chicken fillet - Hell I love Jacket potatoes LMAO

Pumped_'s picture

Should we be adding a disclaimer for the new guy reading thinking he can eat like this everyday? Lol

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Bill G's picture

new guys have thier own stupid shit to worry about. We literally just hijacked this thread and went our own way like always. Totally useless as usual we are

press1's picture

Yeh No salad talk on this page eh Bill LMAO

Mol wanted to talk about pre-loading compounds - We wanted to talk about food HAhaha

Bill G's picture

I'm a second hand vegetarian.
I only eat veggies that have already turned into an animal

Pumped_'s picture

Wife is shopping now i told her grab some steaks so we can use up the rest of the propane before winter. But ill grill out on the porch in 0 degree weather. She cooks all meals but not allowed to grill steak. That is my job and i will only eat my cooking when it comes to grilling. She likes the medium well or well done ruining the while thing.

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press1's picture

Yeh once steak is too well done its just crap isn't it, like chewing through Mols crusty underwear after he's been to the Chinese buffet .....

I must say I love grilled chicken damn - thats where you guys easily have us on cuisine like that. We try to copy but just not the real thing, same with all the sauces.

Pumped_'s picture

Yes a nice moist piece of grilled chicken. Got to have a little little pink to that also to be perfect.

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press1's picture

Do you view those as unhealthy Pumped? Damn I eat like that everyday and can't get a smidgen past 200 Lol And finish every meal with ice cream.

Pumped_'s picture

Same here. But i think all the fat we "dont" trim off the steak and the amount of butter we use may categorize as "unhealthy" lol

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