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Is this outbreak worse than what is being televised ?

https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/wuhan?lang=en

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10817933/coronavirus-deaths-lockdown-china/

Four unconfirmed cases in NY, I have a friend in Hubei province, and they all say that we don't realize how critical the situation is Who knows what the real mortality rate is... They all say 5% but that's only based upon "reported data" with over 100k infected that’s 5000k dead.

China can't control the information leaking, and the world deserves to know everything so that we can stop / take precautions against the disease. Takes 14 days to show symptoms, It’s Contagious as hell too, if you have it, you will infect 14 people knowledge is power, and so I'd like to bring this towards everyone's attention here.

Be alert and aware.

Simon

addicted.to.pain's picture

So far a little over 3000 people have died in china from the virus , Now lets take into account the population density of china. Nearly 2-billion people living in cities along its east coast , very few people live in rural china. So the virus has spread through most of China at this point , its killed 3000 and around 4000 critical so lets say when its all said and done 7500 Chinese citizens may very well die.

The total population of the earth is just under 8-billion , so for every 2 billion people lets say 7,000 may die since that is roughly what is going on in China. Once this virus runs its course we are looking at around 28,000 to 30,000 people dead from Covid-19.

Its basically the Flu, and the people are acting insane because of media induced panic. I'm telling you this whole thing is manufactured and the powers that be are testing the waters to see just how much they can get away with in a crisis . Not unlike what happen during September - 11- 2001. Just turn your televisions off and stay off social media , we are going to be fine at the very worst you get a fever and life sucks for a week or two.

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Let's forget the fact that numbers from China can't be trusted and that they used the military to aggressively quarantine, control, and contain their population. Had they known what they were dealing with sooner, and responded sooner, this would never have gotten out to become our new reality.

Imagine if they did nothing. You're basically proving the point that containment was the right call.

Doing nothing, with no treatment or vaccine, with 8 billion infected, would result in 160 million potentially dead. (20 NYC's or 50% of the US)

If the flu was unabated (no treatment or vaccine) with 8 billion infected, there would be potentially 4 million dead. ( one half of NYC)

The purpose of the restrictions isn't to stop the virus, it's to slow it down so we don't see a spike that overwhelms our hospitals to where normal emergency care comes to a halt as well.

In China the military built hundreds of makeshift hospitals practically overnight... some of which collapsed resulting in more (uncounted) deaths. If I die in the hallway of a hospital waiting for care from an auto accident because of the virus, that too wouldn't be counted.

addicted.to.pain's picture

hey let them Quarantine , I'm not fighting that point.

Thats what you do in a virus pandemic I get it.

Fuck the media is all I'm saying

Bulkdaddy's picture

I feel like this is politics and I just got yelled at for it and 10 karma taking away.

This sushi I’m eating is really good on a side note.

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Pale's picture

It is in a way. But we INCLUDING ME have went out of our way not include the partisan bullshit in the discussion. We have been an Oasis of peace here the last 3.5 years since prohibiting politics. I aim to keep it that way. If you want to voice your opinion on those matters go to Facebook. I do.

Bulkdaddy's picture

I get on fb and say one thing log off. Then I get back on too 200 comments because I triggered everyone and start a fb war! Bahhahaha I love it! Lol

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Pale's picture

You bring the same BS from the other thread here huh?

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Bulkdaddy's picture

It’s. NO FUCKING POLITICS

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Pale's picture

And now you can't edit/ Smile

ashop's picture

This virus is shutting the world down right now. I haven't seen anything like this in my life time.

Pale's picture

Nome of us have, that is truth

kodiakGRRL's picture

wash your hands use soap keep your hands away from your face... ie quit picking your nose ... if you have it wear a mask,,, if you don't have it ...wash your hands, which you should already be doing.

BJ's picture

All bullshit aside! If it hits the US bad and becomes a serious pandemic here and hits my town! I'm going from TRT to a higher dose until I get into a slightly inflammation state. When my body is in a slightly "inflammation state" I never get sick. Trial & error

Bulkdaddy's picture

Who the fuck gave you 7 Karma points. You went from -5 yesterday to that now. This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard.

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TheFlash85's picture

You say such stupid shit.
No wonder your in minus karma.
Smh.

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BJ's picture

I'll post the video of a longevity guru saying the same thing if you'd like! He explained the science behind it. Basically he said when you're in an inflammatory state your antibodies are more activated.

TheFlash85's picture

Everything we do is inflammatory response.
We wouldnt grow without it.
Every action has a reaction.
Putting more steroids in your body isnt going to help you with carona virus.
I have studied these processes extremely in depth.
I do see what you are saying and you are not incorrect but its not going to do anything in regards to a virus.

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maddogg's picture

The Chinese communist party has never been forthcoming with negative information for fear it will make then look bad and lose their totalitarian grip on power. I fear technology will eventually make that grip unbreakable, short of a pandemic with a 50% mortality rate. We in the West might someday find out how bad it is, but they will hide it from their own people except for the ones who are living the nightmare

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Ozninjaguy's picture

"50 people died in the most populated country China from this virus." - want to revise those figures?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

SimonM84's picture

I had this thought initially until I spoke to a close friend who’s Chinese from that region. Let’s hope you’re correct.

maddogg's picture

True that. They drive Even faster than me. More than once I’ve had one fly by me in a lux car and found them wiped out on the side of the road further up ahead and they are the worst at bumper cars.

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SimonM84's picture

Minute changes or alterations in the environment "not saying global warming” but within chaos theory there is a statement relating to subsequent effects following a cause; the statement is sensitive dependence on initial conditions. Unfortunately, what we consider a life threat very well maybe a reorganizing factor for stability. These events also come in patterns and sequences and I believe they will be more frequent in the years to come.

Subtle changes have dire effects but as a species, we’re resilient. I just wish we were more mindful of our consumption and rationed a bit more but we’ll experience the consequences and if not us, our children.

DfromPhilly's picture

There’s too many people. Somethings gotta take a good clip of us out or we’re all screwed in the long run. I’m for it.

Livelife76's picture

Damn Thanos here lolol

DfromPhilly's picture

Lmao. They were busting my balls in work cuz I said he was the real hero of those movies

Livelife76's picture

Lololol that shits funny

SimonM84's picture

Do you have children ? What was the thomas malthus theory?
the doctrine proposed by British economist Thomas Malthus (1766–1834) that exponential increases in population growth would surpass arithmetical increases in food supply with dire consequences, unless population growth was arrested by such means as famine, war, or the control of reproduction through moral restraint.

DfromPhilly's picture

Nope. No kids and not going to either.

And that dude was ahead of his time. They said on Rogan there’s only enough nutrients left in the ground for 60 more harvests unless we move to regenerative farming, where you rotate live stock land and the land you grow crops on after every harvest.

Literally every environmental problem we have would be essentially solved by less people.

And for the record I’m willing to take one for the team. If I gotta go out as part of it that’s fine with me. It would suck but I’ve lived a decent life lol.

Darkhorse777's picture

Farmers already rotate land they been doing it for decades ...the soil has already mostly been stripped of a lot of vital nutrients and minerals because they weren't rotating it like 100 years ago...why do you think they invented the multivitamin

SimonM84's picture

I wholeheartedly agree with you. I’d go out for my kids to have a future. Next forum topic I will start will be a list of rogan podcasts I support.

DfromPhilly's picture

Amen, brother.

SimonM84's picture

You are a noble man D from philly

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I was gonna go eat in Blacksburg today but screw that , there’s a huge Chinese student population at tech. Many of them were in China during Christmas break.
I’ll be spending the rest of winter in my rural holler...

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wanted's picture

Keep letting people back in through airports its so stupid

Livelife76's picture

I’ve been following it closely, so believe it’s worse then they are reporting too... crazy they sell live koalas, eats, wolf pups for people to eat smh

Sam I Am's picture

Apparently the guys on Wall Street know..

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bundlz's picture

Thats illuminatie

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Bulkdaddy's picture

I won’t get no corona virus I drink Budweiser.

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skydancer4's picture

And it will get worse, is always the same, and the answer is simple, if you do not want the disease to expand to your country ... close the airports to any citizen that comes from the country of origin, why the goverments wont do it? because they want to be politically correct and give the feeling that they have a higher morale and only prevent people from showing symptoms which is useless.
The worst thing is that many of these pandemics develop in China because of their eating habits,they tend to eat wild animals that can carry viruses that we are not accustomed to, and above all if these animals (as it has been in this case) eat others Animals the virus mutates.

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It is pretty scary. Its in Australia now as well. I watched a bunch of videos last night about this. Definitely seems like all the info is not being released.
I'll post links to a couple I watched laat night

https://youtu.be/lg925coC5sc
https://youtu.be/7OEqybiGdaA

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