posted Wed, 11/06/2019 - 11:05
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So here’s the situation. Current protocol:
Test cyp 250 . M w f
Deca 200 M w f
Dbol 30 mg 90 minutes before workout
Arimidex m w f
Letro 2.5 Just about everyday for 2.5 weeks now
Hgh 3.6 iu a day
So about a month into this cycle started getting slightly puffy nipple on left side. So I started the letro in addition to Adex. Well it’s just getting worse . So my question is do I need to back off gear while taking letro? Or ?? Prior to this cycle did some tren, EQ masterone for couple months but no real issues. I didn’t wanna let up on gear cause I have 3 months left in off season to add size. Making 18 year return to stage. My diet is on point and training.. any input would be appreciated.
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Update. Gyno shrunk almost gone I would say 85% . Ran liquid letro from trt clinic for 5 weeks and ran caber 2mg per week.
PcushionFun fact dbol gets converted in the body to 17alpha-methylestradiol, a more biologically active form of estrogen than estradiol. Extremely problematic when combined with 750 mg test and bunk letro.
Your letro is bunk sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Leave the caber alone (your nipples aren’t leaking) and get a real AI or serm.
I’m going for bloods in few hours. That’s what I been thinking about the letro. Even though it’s in a pharmacy box blister pack with leaflet insert?? And yeah I heard that about dbol. I will know about the estrogen levels couple days.
PcushionLet us know how the bloods come back man. Per the packing of your letro. People counterfeit all kinds of shit brother. Whatever it came in is of no real value. The fact that your gyno is getting worse on 2.5 mg/day. Is not representative of any letro I have ever used.
Estrogen came back at 25. So AI I had seemed to be working. Not fake. May be underdosed tho? I switched to another source for letro. Local trt clinic. We will see
PcushionCool man be careful with it. Real letro is strong. Also look into Aromasin you won’t rebound on it like letro or adex. Keep in mind gyno doesn’t develope over night and doesn’t do away overnight either. Keep running labs so you don’t bottom out and keep them for future use.
Yes sir I will! There is a trt clinic that the doc is cool AF I just went to. He prescribes everything. It’s all about the money. They have there own compounding pharmacy so I was like hell to the fuck yeah!!! He actually gave me some real adex until my bloods come back. He said they will prescribe whatever I need. But I will post the bloods should be Tuesday. And if my estrogen is off the charts I’m about to blast this source
PcushionGood stuff brother. That’s why I only use one brand!
Cut one of the AI's and try CABER! Get bloods for Prolactin to confirm this!
For gynecomastia lettrozol is great.
Otherwise for the effect of nandrolone decanoate or trenbolone acetate you can take Cagerboline.
Nolvadex is also used during a cycle if gynecomastia is installed.
During a testosterone cycle the best is the Exemestane ... I am often with a problem of gynecomastia, it is my body that is like that, nothing to do. The only solution is to go over a surgical table to remove the gland, it reduces the pain of gynecomastia and volume ...
People who do not do it can unfortunately not understand the feeling of being wrong ... the pains, even when my son pats me in the breast I go crazy ...
It is already necessary that you stop the deca, often this product is the base of a gynecomastia, in me the nandrolone decanoate I directly catch the gynecomastia.
I replace it with the boldenone.
I'm 40 years old and I have been in charge since I was about 18, I know my body and I know what is good for him or not, you will have to make your own opinion, because on the gynecomastia you will often have comments of people who have never had or know people who know people who have had ...
Already going to see an endocrinologist, he will give you a blood test (Testo / LH, FSH ... etc) and give you a mamography + ultrasound to do.
Once you have the result, what will you do?
Either your level of testosterone explodes the norms, or it is the nandrolone decanoate or dianabol ... it is up to you to try to find the solution on this concern.
I have already run a major gynecomastia cure, it was not installed, so do not wait for it to install, especially not, otherwise operation is the only solution.
I took 20mg of nolvadex a day + Exemestane + Cagerboline.
Until that leaves.
But it is a very heavy treatment. Already try just nolvadex with cagerboline.
Lettrozol is really well associated with proviron and nolvadex in cure, but dice the first injection.
Finally it is only my opinion, I think that directors will put me in the negative again with my opinion, so you have to make the right choices my friend. Tell yourself that you are not the only one, neither the first nor the last to perform gynecomastia.
Good luck to you and keep me informed.
Drop the letro, its not helping anything. Arimidex and letro together is redundant. Lower you Deca dosage.
You could even benefit from lowering your test dosage to 500mg/week, Deca 400/week, Arimidex 2x/week.
If you have gyno from test, you would feel a lump behind your nipple, it would hurt if you squeeze it and your nipples would be very sensitive. Puffy nipples alone sounds like prolactin gyno. If you can't get caber, try pramipexole. Use it in the evening because it makes you sleepy. You want to grow, More is not always better.
If the was case we'd all be gaints.
At 1 month in.......I'd say it's the deca responsible. You using caber?
No caber can’t get any at my pharm grade source
K well is it worth risking gyno cause you can't get caber from your source look around some sources have perfectly dosed legit stuff
That’s a lot of deca...anything for prolactin ?
I have read masterone helps with prolactin? Is that true? Just in case I can’t get cabor?
So you think the deca would do that? So I was gonna get Cabor next but my source which is pharm grade is out. Should I cut out the deca?
I’d drop it down at least...I never run deca bc I can’t control it, I prefer npp...treat with 300mg b6 2x a day until you can get some caber or prami
300mg vitamin b6? And what could I use instead of deca? For bulking purposes. My coach seems to think it’s not the deca but I think it is. I was gonna start Nolvadex and Aromasin.. but I can’t find caber at the top 5 sites on here ? Seems nobody has it?
I’d probably be looking for a new coach....b6 reduces prolactin. I don’t use caber unless I am running a high dose of tren.
Anadrol 2 weeks on 2 weeks off would be my choice for size...
Whatever oral you use it should be used with meals...not as a preworkout. If 30mg of dbol it should be 10mg with three meals, first, third and fifth
I have adex , letro on hand but seems to not be working at all. Lump is getting bigger
pm me, I'll direct you to Caber.