posted Tue, 07/09/2019 - 13:53
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+ 1 First Cycle - Test C / Anavar / Proviron / Nolvadex
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Hi all first post here as I found you looking for a good source and would appreciate you thoughts on my first cycle before I order everything.
Weeks 1-12 - Test C - 250mg Monday / Thursday
Weeks 5-12 - Anavar - 25mg AM - 25mg PM - ED
Weeks 5 - 18 - Proviron 25mg - EOD
Weeks 15-16 - Nolvadex 40mg - ED
Weeks 17-18 - Nolvadex 20mg - ED
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PcushionYep
basskiller89I didn't know that I apologize, I'll stick with Nolvadex and Clomid for this PCT, I do get bloodwork, the compound works wonders, probably just not necessary
PcushionIt’s not meant to be used during PCT. It can be used during cycle to prevent testicular atrophy or to preserve fertility. The dosing protocol is different for both goals. It can also be used leading up to PCT but this method is not as effective. The goal of HCG is to keep the Leydig cells from suffering damage due to lack of LH from negative feedback via the HPG. HCG aromatizes and fresh estrogen is not conducive to HPG recovery. Which is why during PCT it’s a bad idea.
Fresh information on HCG came out this year
https://www.healio.com/endocrinology/reproduction-androgen-disorders/new...
Think it’s a good idea to advise another estro converting compound into a first cycle? Not knowing how he will react to just test, he mite battle the estro levels enough just from test alone.
Doubtful hcg is warranted at 500mg test also, with a solid clomid/ clomid nolva protocall recovery is highly optimized
Thanks for all the replies and sorry for the late response im unable to get onto the site in work.
All of this really new to me and all started looking at running at oral only cycle of Anavar but after reading alot this didn't seem a good idea and should be run with Test.
I choose Test C so I wasn't pinning regular as a first timer 2 times a week seemed fine and i though starting on just one would be the best way for 4 weeks.
As this being originally about Anavar I had read that Proviron was a great addition when running Anavar and can also support when on a Test Cycle.
Nolvadex came afterwards while searching for a suitable PCT and 40/40/20/20 seemed the standard.
Should i look at adding Clomid 100/100/50/50 ?
I train 5 nights a week 4 different sets of weights then sit ups then 5k X Trainer and finish with 25min HIIT on punch bag.
All this started as general fitness as about 5 years ago i was a fat 19st10lb.
Dieted and trained and got down to 15st but lost all size and strength until last year when concentrated more on Weights but only ever run 2 cycles of SARMS 1 capsule and 1 liquid which helped.
All stopped last year when i was in a car crash in November and I haven't trained for months and only now on my 4th consecutive week back and feeling great.
As mentioned earlier it started with Anavar as i was looking for cutting a weight loss.
Anymore help would be appreciated
Do you know how to read all your bloodwork results?...have a plan to adjust any issues that may, and prob will arise, with those compounds for a first timer?
Pct isn’t optimum imo either...
Using provi the way you are planning also isn’t optimum during recovery imo...
There are dozens of threads and bloodwork results showing the why, how, why nots, ect ...strongly suggest you do a lot more digging and learning before jumping on hormones
Before starting make sure you have your entire PCT on hand, in case something goes wrong and you have to bail on your cycle. Also make sure you have an AI on hand for if your E2 goes up and you start having sides. Furthermore, before you start, get baseline bloods taken so you know your natural levels, then a month to Halfway in get bloods done again to see how your body is reacting, and finally get bloods done after your pct is complete to see how you recovered. Also get bloodwork done if anything goes sideways during your cycle and you don’t know what’s going on with your body. If you are not prepared to invest the time and money it costs to have all that testing done, then you have no business running a cycle.
You also haven’t told us your experience, starting point, goals, diet, or workout plan.
The guys here don’t joke around and aren’t going to say “looks good bro! Cycle on bro!” like your average broscience more brawn than brains guy that thinks “steroids are cool, bro!” And that they’re gonna get jacked running a dbol only cycle working out twice a week and eating garbage.
Best advice is do more research and make sure everything is well prepared before starting.
No need to take Provision if you take Anavar; it's pretty much a duplication.
Rustyhookerfirst cycle..
if you insist on cycling , and once you guys make it this far your usually pretty determined.
Weeks 1-12 - Test c read up on how to taper your test.
Weeks 1-12 - Proviron
and boom keep it at that, a three month test cycle is a good start. Get you an AI and do some more research on PCT dude. good luck
Rustyhooker16stone is what?
Horrible layout. Bad pct
Test only should be a first cycle. Expect your lipids to be fucked with the two orals..