posted Tue, 07/09/2019 - 13:53
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+ 1 First Cycle - Test C / Anavar / Proviron / Nolvadex
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Hi all first post here as I found you looking for a good source and would appreciate you thoughts on my first cycle before I order everything.
Weeks 1-12 - Test C - 250mg Monday / Thursday
Weeks 5-12 - Anavar - 25mg AM - 25mg PM - ED
Weeks 5 - 18 - Proviron 25mg - EOD
Weeks 15-16 - Nolvadex 40mg - ED
Weeks 17-18 - Nolvadex 20mg - ED
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nitetricks73Test C and provi are a great combo. I do think you could be safe using proviron at 25 mgs a day. Good luck!
Thanks mate nice to see a post in here still giving advise.
Wow ! Thanks for all the replies.
Taking you advise i will look more now into a Test only Cycle.
This being the case would you still advise Clomid and Nolvadex as a PCT ?
My Diet consists of a Protein in a morning made with Milk, Oats and Frozen fruits.
2 Main meals a day of Brown Rice/Pasta + Meats and the fruits with another Protein shake after training and and Intra during.
Regarding BF I'm nowhere near single figures and would be 20-25% after the long break from the accident.
I think I've got a lot more reading and learning to do.
Thanks again really appreciate it.
I would consider lowering your fat down to around 15% before you cycle. Losing fat off cycle is easier than gaining muscle off cycle. If your body fat is lower, you will most likely have fewer estrogen related side effects and it will be easier to control.
Lowering your bodyfat down will also give you the chance to improve your habits and discipline, as well as get into a better pattern of following the lifestyle you need to achieve and maintain results.
Thanks Shiva, it could be a good shout to be fair, i was looking at running a cycle to get up to Christmas but may leave it now as start in New Year.
PcushionTry 5-6 meals a day. To loose weight your body has to trust you will feed it. Multiple small meals will create this bond with the bodies metabolism.
Thanks i appreciate the advise.
PcushionYou need to get a diet plan together. A Ferrari isn’t very fast without gas. Next you have no reason to run anything but test on your first cycle. You are not experienced enough to know what hormones are doing what. Keep it simple for learnings sake. 500mg of test coupled with a solid diet will take your body to places you never thought possible. 500mg test without a diet and you have nothing but money lost. Do not underestimate the power of testosterone. Test is king for a reason.
Thanks for the further replies, ill be honest don't know too much about HCG as not seen it mentioned too much when I've been reading up on the test cycles.
Regarding the Estro levels would i notice this in the first 4 weeks when only on test ?
To my understanding Anavar is very mild and Proviron would help with the Estro ?
Would the Proviron be better to run ED rather than EOD from Week 5 ?
Happy to include Clomid 100/100/50/50 as already read up on that be mainly people mentioned Nolvadex only.
Test aromatases in all people , how much depends on your system, you will learn much from a first cycle including whether you feel the need for hcg, how much your body aromatase test to estro and on and on we are all different.
Anavar does not build much muscle no, but that does not make it mild on you liver ugl's love to label certain steroids as "mild" it makes first timers more likely to purchase these "mild steroids". Anavar is an oral steroid it is rough on your liver, exceedingly rough if your liver values are already out of wack before the cycle. As for Proviron you are quite right it does help with estro , but make no mistake it is not a replacement for an actual AI. You have no idea how your system is going to react to testosterone it is always wise to have an AI.
Hi thanks for the reply, I have read about Arimidex been used as an AI but i can't quite get my head round the dosing.
Is this something you would use after bloods or if you felt symptoms of Estro ?
Rustyhookeryoure getting spoonfed and not learning. Lazy here will bite you later
PcushionDude wants someone to co-sign him.
RustyhookerAnd id hate to see dude err and be back claiming bad gear etc. He could have a nice easy time
PcushionIt’s always the gears fault. It’s never the decisions of the user.
jeez you didn't know that?
PcushionHey now can’t hold that against me. I just found out yesterday that it’s not the cars fault for letting people drive drunk
RustyhookerDude....the car has cruise control. No need to drive it really. Set cruise and youre free with two hands to make mixers.
Lol
jayiskLmao..,going to have to watch it again.
RustyhookerHahaha!!!! Not even joking.... a retiree bought a large rv and was headed on his first trip. He hit cruise control and went to the rear to piss. Went off road of course and crashed. He told the cops he thought it drive for him. Lmao
PcushionHahahahaha this has me about to choke on my food.
LOL don't do that .. thats a waste of good calories
RustyhookerBulemia and cutting season.....lol
PcushionIf you can’t work it off then throw it out or up. If that doesn’t work please refer back to the Jenny Crank diet LOL.
RustyhookerChpo choo trail got rails. Hahaha
PcushionLol if they loose all their teeth that counts a cutting weight right?
LOL well they probably won't gum their food so .. yeah it counts
RustyhookerUsing a blender emulsifies the nutrition. Chewing is overrated. Lol
passes shake
depends on how well it's blended... I always skipped the last 1/4 in of my shake when it had oatmeal in it because I couldn't stand the texture
RustyhookerCook the oatmeal so its a lil dry tgen blender. It wont have the glue or sandpaper appeal
really.,.,, i just pour it in from the damn cannister.... who'd have thought to cook that shit ..lol
RustyhookerI used canister too and it is sandy texture. I microvaved it then blended...solved. stuff is still glue if ya dont wash blender right away. Haha
Saaammee! Too thick. Tastes like chunky glue
disgusting ..... it all sinks to the bottom and it reforms lol
throws up in mouth
now I can''t even make one and not drink the bottom.. they are ruined ...perhaps forever.
OH MY WORD ... what are we going to do with you?
Both. Start as needed .25 eod / E3D (for my body, its around week 3.5) you would do bloods 2-2.5 weeks after starting your AI and adjust from there in small increments. Crashing estro is very easy on Adex. I would much rather have higher estro than low estro.
Most research on here will tell you the same. You can get fantastic results from test only as a first cycle. Im on my first atm @500 (end week 4 today). Strength has already gone up and ive gained 10 lbs) granted its mostly water and some fat, but ill lean out when i go back to TRT.
take that back!! yes anavar is 'mild' in comparison to other comounds but I NEVER recommend anything to first time users other than TEST.
lol of course I was not insinuating the Queen would do such things , forgive my insolence.
Lol you are forgiven ;-)
Thanks have been reading a lot of people using TEST as their 1st cycle but Test on its own isn't what im looking for.
Yes i am looking for the Gains and the Strength but its more the cutting and loss of the Anavar while keeping gains.
My diet is clean and only around 2000 cals and based round 200g Protein / 200g Carbs / 50g Fats.
Pcushion“Thanks have been reading a lot of people using TEST as their 1st cycle but Test on its own isn't what im looking for.”
What your looking for is someone to co-sign your assumptions that you can bypass the kitchen and get the physique want. You have never run any AAS so how do you possibly know anything about test or what it’s going to do to your body.
Per your current diet that doesn’t mean your diet is in check. It’s what you consume to get those numbers and more importantly when you consume.
Look bud, anavar won’t do a damn thing for cutting if your diet isn’t there!... test alone will do that at a much better efficiency... forget the var for now!.... it’s more of a finisher or polisher not a main factor in cutting body fat. In fact, cutting is ALL about nutrition and workouts...adding some test at a low dose is all you need to preserve the lean tissue you already have while you diet and exercise the body fat away...
now if you’re in comp prep and already single digit bf, imo, anavar has its place to give an extra “ pop” to dropping the last few % of bf.... but to use var simply to help go from 14% to 12% bf, or whatever, is a show of lazy diet and gym work. I’m sure others will disagree with me on this and that’s fine, this is just my opinion on steroid use.
I sent you a pm if you care to discuss this privately
you can cut with food and not lose muscle you just need to know how to do it. truth be told there are NO fat loss steroids just tools that will assist given the RIGHT conditions. I've seen a boat load of people try to use anavar and just gain weight without losing the fat. Test is a fat burner too but again ... diet is EVERYTHING ... I don't know what you weigh right now or what your history is so you giving me your macros is nice but doesn't tell me much except that you could cut your carbs and up your fats and shed some unwanted fat.
I must have been typing at the same time, lol well said grrl
sometimes I get it right ;-)
basskiller89I think you want to incorporate HCG, Nolvadex and Clomid into your PCT personally, 500mg a week was my first cycle, really good run!!
no HCG unless lab test warrant it !! it's definitely not something that is common to recommend during cycle and far too many people abuse it than use it properly