I have completely lost respect for the sport (if you can call it that) of Boxing
Hey kids, Ed here with a subject that may hurt your feelings. Especially if you love Boxing.
In the past, I have been a huge fan of Boxing. I grew up in the Pre-Rapist Mike Tyson Era. How could one not be a fan of Boxing?
However, as of late, I really find myself questioning the legitimacy of boxing. Seriously. Spare me the “Sweet Science” Bullshit. I’ve preached that before.
Ya know, I think I feel like one of those guys who finds himself questioning his religion after years of only knowing his religion.
Perhaps someone who still believes in the “sweet science” can bring me back to the fold.
Tell me, how the hell does someone like Connor McTapper go as many rounds as he did with a boxer who some consider is the greatest of all time?
I just watched the Bare knuckle fighting championship as Artem Lobov beat Pauline Malagnatti in a fricken boxing match. This shit does not happen in real sport.
You will never see a Connor McGregor Gold his own in a Greco-Roman, freestyle, or folk style wrestling match with a world champion. He wouldn’t make it one round with a NAIA wrestler. You wouldn’t see some guy who was a stud on his local city league baseball or basketball team hang with Michael Jordan or a Derek Jeter. But yet we are seeing guys hang with the best in the world in boxing. I can promise you’d a great grappler like GSP isn’t going to last 30 seconds in a wrestling match with a Cael Sanderson. Cael is retired and could be drunk and out of shape and still beat any decent grappler.
Does that make sense? There is no reason in the world that these great boxers are getting beat or even having amateurs hang with them at a professional level unless boxing is of course a bullshit sport.
Ed! That’s blasphemy!
Maybe it is kids. Change my mind?
I love deontay wilder. No homo. He’s a hard hitting so of a bitch. Is he boxing with the “sweet science”?
Or running around the ring with his arm cocked back ready to unload.
Sorry if I hurt anyone’s feelings. Mine are equally hurt, because I am no longer a believer.
All my love, no homo
Ed
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WRT boxing, you hit the nail on the head Brother Ed, it's about era's. Tyson is the classic example.
There is also an irony in your frustration. MMA was created, more or less, to answer the question of who/what is best. The real answer is none of them necessarily, but ironically; when they become MMA experts, they are no longer top class as individual sports.
With boxing, I think it still has a lot to offer. For all we know, we could be in the middle of the Tyson Fury era and not even know it! Keep the faith, and follow those in their prime, their era... the rest is just spectacle!
You have to keep an eye on the hungry, up and coming kids. There always is going to be someone better. And it sure as hell isn't Anthony Joshua, what a joke.
Gervonta Davis and Erick Lubin for example.
Floyd money mayweather seen the chance to make some quick easy money and turned the sport into WWE. Bad move for boxing but you cant knock the man for making money.
Wilder is nothing but a browler with long reach. I would really like to see him work on boxing, he definitely has great potential.
Achilles412Davis is the next Adrain broner. Constantly fucked up and constantly getting in some kind of dumb trouble. Loads of talent but fights once a year. I think he’ll end up a waste. Wilder is 42 pro fights in and 34 in October if he hasn’t learned by now he won’t. Especially since he has had such great success. He’ll make quick work of 58 year old Ortiz and then get gifted another draw against fury
Yup. I’m hoping that fury worked a little bit on his power without compromising his speed. Looks like he did in his last fight.
All major sports are now theatre...pap for the masses. Speaking of sports - if you really want to get offended: Break-dancing is now being considered for inclusion as an Olympic sport. Fuck me runnin' - it's all going to hell in a hand basket...and to add insult to injury, hand basket weaving will probably be a sport soon too.
jayiskDo you ever watch speed walking in the Olympics? it's where they walk as fast as possible without running.
but it really looks the same as when you have to take a bad shit and are rushing to the toilet before you shit yourself.
a lot of what they consider sports in the Olympics is a joke.
Yeah...and let's not mention synchronised swimming or I'll blow a gasket. The only parts of the Olympics that I used to watch is the boxing, gymnastics and weight lifting. I actually haven't tuned into an Olympics broadcast for the last 3 or four games. No interest anymore.
jayiskWas worth watching back during the Cold War between US and USSR.
Achilles412Your lying?
If you knew anything about me, you would know that I don't talk shit. So I will take your post as being naive ignorance rather than an insult: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/21/sport/breakdancing-olympics-paris-202...
PS - the basket weaving comment was an attempt at humour - obviously lost.
Achilles412It wasn’t an insult nor was it ignorance it was conversation. You know like you say Something that’s ridiculous like break dancing being a Olympic sport and I respond w your lying because it’s absolutely ridiculous
It's all good mate. it was late at night here and my reply could have been better. Hey - cut us grump old men a break ;-)
Achilles412I’m not mad at you my wife says I’m a grumpy old man trapped in a 32 year olds body all the time. I feel your pain lol but now I’m gonna learn how to break dance w my eye on the 2024 Olympics.
lol...don't forget the baggy- arsed pants, and ball cap on sideways: apparently that's going to be the official uniform.
It's all about money. If they ended things like Tyson at 20. People lose interest. If they make it look like the other person has a single chance of winning. Boom. People are interested and willing to drop money to watch it. Its a sad time these days
You see how bad the AAU world champ wrestler just beat Ben Askrin?And Ben is legit.He actually medaled in the Olympics.Current world Cham destroyed him.Boxing not the same.I would agree.I think part of the problem is that MMA guy use smaller gloves and are use to getting hit much harder.Remember though,we havn’t seen the best fight the best.
Achilles412Jordan Burroughs is an all time best. Askren was super good in his prime tho.
I hate that we are leaving David Taylor out of the Convo. Lol
Achilles412Truth! I mean shoot he did get TWO tech falls in last year world championships!!!
He is still a bad ass and trains a lot of the best in MMA but Jordan is another level!!
Boxing is no different than Japanese Sumo Wrestling , its rigged from the first bell.
I might get negged for saying it , but its the truth. The guys that get into that ring have every bit of the knock out power needed to end those fights in a few rounds.
jayiskhas a long history of shady promoters and others running things. and once big money came into the picture would you expect anything different. Plus the betting that goes on with it. it is a lot easier to win money on a bet when they know which boxer is going to win.
Nah, this is off topic. negging is not possible.
Achilles412Boxing my friend has been and always will be it’s on worst enemy. It can’t n refuses to get out of its own way. As for the Mayweather/McGregor situation. It was a money grab mayweather carried him a few rounds and they both made millions upon millions for those who paid for that joke is on them absolutely ridiculous to waste money on that. Wilder is not talented he lost to fury and it wasn’t close knock downs and it’s 8-4 wilder has amazing power and just so happens to be in a division w no talent outside of 5 ppl. Period. Don’t get all warm n fuzzy thinking of the era you grew up in it was fixed then Tyson(who is on my sons bedroom wall) was handed many fights to be built up Hagler vs sugar ray terrible decision Chavez vs Taylor terrible decision Lennox Lewis never fighting riddick bowe the list goes on n on on boxing can not get out of its own way. But there is talent In lower divisions it’s still a beautiful sport it’s just the crazy ex girlfriend you can’t stop fuckin of sport.and your pretty cool for bringing up Sanderson. Watching him wrestle was beautiful.
I am under no grand illusion that the Tyson era was clean. Don king would never allow it.
Sanderson was a thing of beauty. Still is. His wrestling was absolute perfection. His coaching is absolute perfection. He turned Penn State into a Dynasty. There isn’t a dynasty in d1 college sports that even comes close to what Cael created and has going in D1 wrestling.
Iowa who?
It’s interesting, I usually attend the D1 National Championships every year. Watch the Iowa boys, mean as hell, drinking thumbtacks in their Gatorade..Iowa wresting.
Watch the Penn state team. They are having fun and they love it. Light hearted champions. Cael is the master of mindset.
Could some badass hang with Cael? Hell no. Could Jon Jones who was a very good wrestler hand with Cael? Not even on juice.
Could Jon Jones hang with Deontay Wilder in a boxing match Lol? Maybe. I wouldn’t hesitate to place a bet for Jones. That shouldn’t even be a valid statement.
Achilles412The big ten as a whole has become so much fun to watch wrestling wise. I’m a Pitt guy so awful football lol but wrestling all the teams are competitive and have talent. Jordan Burroughs at Nebraska Bo nickal and Zane retherford I mean shoot Brock lesnar moons ago at Minnesota. Sanderson tho hands down best wrestler ever. Aleksandr Medved Was an animal as well tho so maybe not hands down. Bruce Baumgartner Was amazing too
We better add aleksandr karelin to that list. Lol.
Achilles412John Smith as well ?
Of course John Smith should make the list. His brother Pat should be there as well. Surely Dan Gable can’t be left out of the conversation.
Achilles412Shoot all jokes aside how about Kurt angle?
Kurt is a fag. Lol. I’m kidding. I spelled badass wrong
I’m looking coward to see fury knock wilders ass put. People say he doesn’t have knockout power but that’s shot. He has 20 knockouts.
Now, don’t go bringing up Fury. I love that guy (no homo). The more I hear about his life story and the more I watch him, the more I like him. Let’s leave him out of the convo. Lol