posted Wed, 04/17/2019 - 07:32
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So I’m currently getting ready for a bodybuilding show my current cycle is
150mg test cyp EOD ~525 per week
50mg Mast prop ED ~350 per week
50mg Tren ace ED ~350 per week
Using .5mg of Arimidex EOD and I have prami on hand in case my prolactin goes crazy but I have not had any signs of high prolactin yet
I started the test 14 weeks out and just added the tren and masteron about a little over a week ago at 10 weeks out. The last week or so since I added the mast and tren I have had an absolutely horrible time sleeping...
Does anyone have any tips or tricks that can help out with the insomnia I’m experiencing??
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Tren ace is the answer to your question, pre contest always sucks, especially closer to an end. Sleepless nights, night sweats and so on, but that’s the part of the game. I just deal with it and not taking any sleep medicine
jayiskif you want to sleep take propofol. Good enough to put a serial pedophile to sleep..,for good!
unreal89Who needs sleep you will crash when your body wants too.. be more productive while on tren im on roughly 500mg ace and i get 3-4 hrs of sleep a night
CBD knocks me out I always sleep like a baby on it, never used it while on tren though.
PcushionYes cbd is excellent great advice.
PcushionI don’t get side effects from tren but lower your dose to 200mg and train harder or drop it all together and train even fucking harder. Bodybuilding existed long before tren.
Alphamale500Very true statement!
RustyhookerSo I’m currently getting ready for a bodybuilding show my current cycle is
150mg test cyp EOD ~525 per week
50mg Mast prop ED ~350 per week
50mg Tren ace ED ~350 per week
That is not a bodybuilder show prep whatsoever. Cant be honest? Too young to know the truth?
Oh well idk about that. I’ve looked pretty fucking crazy on just test and mast before going into a show. Only time I have used tren was going into a powerlifting meet and even though I was at a higher bodyfat than I am now it still managed to give me a pretty crazy look (plus the strength was awesome)
So far even though I’ve only been on the tren and mast for a short while I am seeing my body change faster than I ever have. Plan is to slowly lower the test down to 150mg/week the last 4 weeks or so.
I know a lot of people will completely cut out test at the end of prep but in the past that has caused me to go flat so I am just lowering it enough to avoid any water retention
STEMavoid tren ace stick to tren enathate to keep them peaks steady much less sides with it 350mg per week is too much anyway
but what i would suggest you is to give DHB a try much less dangerous but you are very young my brother i dont know if your prep. cont. stories are true not my buiseness but you should consider other compounds they are much better roids out there in comparison to tren no question tren is one of the most powerful compound available but for which costs young fella
good luck buddy
Alphamale500So you say he's very young and you don't know if his being truthful, yet you advise him to use tren enanthate??? Smart move! SMH!
PcushionGlad someone else noticed that.
Alphamale500I did, but apparently it's ok because he said he didn't give any advice, just suggestions! Lol! According to him, the kid's gonna do it anyway. SMFH!!
STEMi advised none it was just a suggestion he s gonna do it anyway i tried to convince him that there is other compounds smart move???? ya smart like you my friend"!
Alphamale500Just FYI, suggesting and advising are pretty much the same damn thing! Will go with suggesting for you.
So, for a young kid who you even call a "young fella", and you actually say "you are very young my brother", you don't see anything wrong with suggesting that he use tren enanthate?
Or what about these magical pieces of advice or suggestions, to a young kid who's obviously lacking enough knowledge to run any gear correctly or safely:
"what i would suggest you is to give DHB a try"!
"you should consider other compounds"
Instead of trying to argue your way out and even trying to get a lil personal(which I suggest you don't do), why don't you man up, acknowledge that you made a mistake and move on??
RustyhookerSo you cosign around here.....thats your thing eh?
Alphamale500Yeah but he doesn't give advice, he only gives suggestions! Lol!
I am doing every day injections to try and keep blood levels as stable as possible. Would enathate keep them more stable than that?
And yeah everyone seems to think it is too harsh for me to be running. I figure as long as bloodwork continues to look good and side effects are reasonably bearable I’ll stay on.
Thanks for the response
No it doesn't keep them more stable - its just like when you pin test E 24hrs after you feel it hit you and with tren E the feeling is pretty awful. It doesn't feel nice and sharp like Ace does, the sides of lethargy etc are much worse and if you don't like the feeling you have it sat in you for a good several days until it clears.
STEMenathate is much more stable peak lvls then ace anyway do your bloodwork you ll see it for yourself
I'm with press. The sides are much worse and you can't make changes in dosages as quickly if you find you're over your head (emotionally and/or physically). If you pin smaller doses of ace more often, your levels will be stable enough if not more so.
STEMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFLBOTLGjz8
Apparently a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.
Maintaining (more) even levels is not the primary concern you can do it with ace as well. Once it's in you, you can't get it out. His dosage examples are stupid, in his bias he's trying to paint a picture to support his argument.
He says do 200 per week, if you don't like it stop. Problem is, the lethargy, moods etc get worse at 4 or 6 weeks in, not one. By then, it'll take several weeks to get it out. And yes, it is a big deal, not how he plays it off. The aggression is much subtitler, the kind where you become more passive aggressive towards your wife, co-workers and boss, not the agression you can take to the gym and take out on the iron.
Hes not a doctor or claims to be one, did you listen to the first thing he said besides trenbolone? Its more bullshit.
Nope, nothing......Nothing at all works! I've tried all sorts and you are not going to sleep properly whilst you are running trenbolone. The only reason I wake up on it is when I am hungry and need to get up and eat - once I do that I have no problem going back to sleep. Problem is though is its a double edged sword as the longer you stay asleep in bed the more you are going to be sweating and dehydrating heavily. If I am especially tired and sleep through hunger pangs for 6 hours or more when I do get up I feel ill from low blood sugar and being dehydrated. Part of the sacrifice of running tren bud.
unreal89Agreed he decided to run it so deal with it no point in taking more medicine everyday to try to sleep.
Achilles412Tren is not worth the harm
Tren sucks ass at least for me, I can't deal with the sides
luckily I haven’t had any other sides too bad so far. Sweating a bit at night but keeping fans on me is helping a lot
You're too young for this cycle. But for sleep Melatonin. Tryptophan; Valerian Root etc
Alphamale500Yeah, melatonin works good for me too. You ever try that 5-HTP john?
Fair enough... thanks for the advice though! I have been using melatonin and valerian root but I’ll give tryptophan a try!
This is no comp. cycle this is bullshit...
What do you mean?
Do you honestly know what a sign of high prolactin is?
Only a blood test will tell you and based on your age you cant honestly say you know what it feels like to have high or low estro even.
The best way to deal with the insomnia is to stop taking whats causing it.
yes, I have experience with 19nor compounds and I have a decent idea of what happens when my prolactin is elevated.
I should mention that I did get blood work done pre cycle and I will absolutely get blood work done before starting prami if I think my prolactin is rising. But in the past that has not been an issue as long as I keep my estrogen in check
I know that plenty of people take tren and experience crazy side effects. Luckily for me only issue I’ve had is sleeping. I am just wondering if anyone has any good tips to help out with this before I come off of the compound completely
Alphamale500"I will absolutely get blood work done before starting prami if I think my prolactin is rising."
"I have a decent idea of what happens when my prolactin is elevated."
These are the statements of someone who clearly doesn't know what they're doing and shouldn't be running gear. You should be getting bloodwork done on a regular basis, not only if you "think" your prolactin is rising. And if you're using a 19nor, you should........
You know what? I'm not gonna spoon feed someone who's running tren and doesn't even know the very basics of running gear! Fuck that. Do more research and learn what you need to know, before deciding to run tren of all things. And to be honest, I highly doubt you're 25 yrs old.
Take IrishMack's advice and stop using what's causing your insomnia in the first place!
I have been using steroids for 3 years. Yes this means I started when I was 22 which I know is too young but there is no changing that now.
Every single cycle I have ever ran I have done bloodwork before, bloodwork half way through, and bloodwork after. Happen to be very good friends with an endocrinologist I met a long time ago at my gym so I literally get bloodwork done for free whenever I need it. I was simply saying that should I suspect my prolactin is high I will go and get an additional round of bloodwork done to confirm my suspicions before I start taking prami.
So then post some of your bloodwork you have done. pre cycle and mid cycle, particularly the one you are on now.
Alphamale500Yeah, I'd like to see some of your bloodwork also!
Notice how my post was ignored? Everyone cosigned for him already. No one reads they just blindly give advice. Everyone tells the truth on the Internet!
Alphamale500Yeah. Now he's gonna go and fuck his body up more than he already did. And much of it could be prevented with the correct knowledge! Sad.
And this endo friend of urs is cool with u running tren at ur age? If gonna be asking questions at least fill ur stats out fully. Prepping for a bb comp u shld know ur bf%.....
So you have been on steroids for 3 years now?
25? Is this your first cycle? Tren?? Bad idea..