+ 5 Bloodwork Round 3! Eye opening results
Round 3 of testing!
I was prescribed Accutane in December and will be using it daily for the next six months. My cut cycle started on January 1st that will last 12 weeks. Below is the breakdown.
Diet: 2400 calories/day
Protein: 60% Fats: 20% Carbs: 20%
Accutane: 80 mg/day 24 weeks
Test E: 200 mg/week 12 weeks Dragon Pharma
Tren E: 300 mg/week 10 weeks Dragon Pharma
Proviron: 50 mg/day 10 weeks Pharmacom
Letrozole: 2.5 mg every 4 days
Cabaser: .5 mg every 4 days
Hcg: 500 iu 2x/week (using weeks 4-12)
1500 iu/week (using weeks 13&14) HUCOG
Dropped Dbol because of liver values and health.
Post cycle:
Day one: 300 mg clomid 60 mg nolva
Day 2-7: 100 mg clomid 40 mg nolva
Day 8-42: 50 mg clomid 20 mg nolva
Few changes from last test:
Total Testosterone: 615 ng/dL
Free Testosterone: 321 pg/dL
Igf 1: 105 mg/dL
Estrogen: 1879.3 pg/mL
HDL: 27 to 26
LDL: 97 to 107
Triglycerides: 41 to 67
ALT (SGPT): 61 to 64
Alkaline Phosphatase: 19 to 35
Things I've learned about steroids and my body:
I metabolize testosterone at a lesser rate than others on here.
Proviron is an amazing drug and significantly increased my free testosterone.
Tren doesn't increase IGF 1.
Estrogen is greatly affected by tren. My values are off the charts and I have zero sides from it.
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How low does your cholesterol get off cycle?
Just being nosy.
Mine gets a little wacky on some supplements
When did you take this test? How long after pinning? 600ish seems really low for 200mg of test.
For tren these results are about right
You need the sensitive test to read actual estro
Tren has caused dyslipidaemia and affecting liver health negatively as it is so toxic. Yes dbol hurts liver too but your dyslipidaemia is from tren.
Great seeing test at TRT level. You will not have estrogen issues that way as its actually test that causes that... therefore why the hell are you running ai?!
Also... great seeing test at trt level... you will not have estro issues and as a result of that will not have prolactin issues... therefore why the hell are you running caber?!
I see so much dumbass duhhhhhh interweb bruhhh nonsense in here that I can't even shake my head at it.
You are running nutty cookie cutter ancilliaries and coming on here and listening to everyone instead of reading a damn book and learning real info, and its hurting your health.
RustyhookerYou do see hes also on high dose accutane right????
70mg to 110mg is a normal dr. prescribed dose for his weight
80 total in a day for a 240-245lb man is not high dose
Jury used be out on many of accutanes sides but lots were... i wont say debunked... but there were recent studies on patients showing for example; no liver issues, no ibs and some other stuff. Honestly though, ive never really taken a big interest as ive never needed it myself. That said the back and forth over the supposed deaths etc... who knows
I am more worried about what a sheep this chap is. He changes like the weather and doesnt seem to think for himself at all. Hopefully he gets bloods very regularly
I can drop both if need be and see if I feel any different. My libido and over all well being is amazing right now so I'll see what happens when ancillaries are dropped.
If you drop both afternwhat I just said, you are just following another anon internet nobodys advice.
Instead get a piece of paper out or whatever...
List wverything and why it is actually needed
E.g.
Caber - for reversing hyperprolactinaemia
Q. Do i have massively elevated prolactin levels?
A. ?
Q. Therefore, do i need to eat this extremely harsh and expensive medication?
A. ?
Hint: you got bloods... and neglected (i think) to test prolactin... so you dont know serum levels. .. so why medicate? Answer can only be that some randomer or internet genius' post said; Tren/19nors raise prolactin (hint: they dont... excess test does - read my forums on 19nors and prolactin as well as ED and prolactin for science on this).
Look, like i say... the genius of what you are doing is keeping testo low. But if you dont read real research on these things you really wont know what is right or who to trust,.... trust yourself man, go get aome real knowledge on this stuff. Ais and caber and harsh orals and etc etc all crammed on top of crazy-tren... well... nobody comes out unscathed
Trust yourself and research properly man
Word!
Good advice
Holy shit 80mg accutane, thats really much!
Hope all values went to normal again, good luck!
Thanks man!
All steroids increase igf... some more than others
Maybe for you, for me test, tren, EQ, primo and proviron do not. Dbol did a bit. But in general I’d say you’re wrong there.
Muat be a majority population statement. As you can see mine is low
RustyhookerWrong test.... tren read as estro.
Liver values looking bad. Alt raised even higher. AP dropped by almost half. Not good at all
White cells.... flu or sickness.
Cholesterol is jacked.
Total test on 200mg a week is very low. Like by 1000.
Will switch tests next time.
Liver values are expected to change while on drugs. Alt moved only 3 points and Dr stated levels of 150+ are early signs of jaundice.
AP increased by double, not decreased.
White cells may be due to a sore throat.
Doesn't cholesterol always change while on cycle?
That was a concern of mine regarding the test levels. My natural test levels are around 600 and it shocked me that 200mg would create the same results. Do you think it's underdosed? Or is 5 weeks too early to have optimum levels?
RustyhookerAP....my error. I was flipping between 2 screens. So it went from extremely horrible to only horrible.
Its your body. Not sure why you asked me here. I warned you loudly last time, punch my screen and threw my phone. Jk... phone costs too much. Lol
If he drops the tren, lowers the Accutane and increases his test dose he will make out better what u think?
RustyhookerYours is 5.6
I'm starting to incorporate what other posts have stated to help alleviate cholesterol levels. Reading up on fish oil and oats!
RustyhookerLow ALP
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7720239/
200mg of testosterone is giving you 6hundreds. Might want to adjust accordingly
Accutane as soon as your clear, drop the dose in half. Your taking a high dose and I have given and used that medicine a lot. 40mg will do the job and save you high liver and kidney functions for some.
Estrogen obviously needs sorted. Not a big deal. You will be just fine. Just lower it
Don't run dbol and accutane lol
Tren and accutane is causing your cholesterol problems
+1 for taking care of yourself and doing tests!
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Lol bro, tren shows up as estro on most blood tests. Betting that’s what happened. There’s no way your estro is that high.
You need a specific test to differentiate the two since tren actually has an estrogen base on the compound so most test just flag it as estrogen. Search on here for blood tests to get while on tren and you’ll get sorted out bro.
That's exactly what I'm saying! I'd be a walking boob if it were actually that high!
I'll definitely do that for my next test in 4 weeks. That way I can sort out my levels. Thanks brotha
if using 19nor you need this test to avoid false high estro readings.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/updatedwhat-blood-test...
You guys nailed it. Retest and go from there
Yeah man, it’s scary the first time you get the test back. You should be lactating like a 9 month pregnant woman by now lol
Hahahah so true
Bigjim can u help me? What are you taking today for drugs? Is this cycle Done? Are you only on Accutane now? Want to help
Nope still on cycle. Everything is listed above. Dropped the dbol since the last test and feel so much better! Thanks for that recommendation. Still taking Accutane
Tren raises my igf level and doesn’t move my estrogen. You sure your Tren is real?
100% real. Insomnia, night sweats, tren cough and other sides have occurred. Every body is different and I guess mine just takes in tren differently!!
Well your last sentence said “Estrogen is greatly affected by tren. My values are off the charts and I have zero sides from it.”
Also stated that this is how MY body is affected by steroids. Individualistic results. I'm not speaking for others!!
Wow never seen that before. You got some bunk ai
My AI isn't bunk because I used it last year during my testosterone only cycle and my estrogen was always in range. Actually crashed once because I used a little too much.