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Cycle has me very worried

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Currently, 6 weeks in on Test E 750mg, NPP 450mg a week and quit drol to take dbol after a week. I did 40mg of dbol for 6 weeks (just finished) and it was a bit long for my liking I should’ve quit at 4.

My issue is when I pin 3ml x 2 a week I experience the absolute worst pain in my ass ever. I’m talking hardly able to walk. I rotate sides, to no avail. I’ve read pip threads and use an inch and a half pin so I know I’m deep enough but damnit I need help here.

There’s no discoloration or anything on my cheeks and it does go away after about a week but it is affecting my daily life and my gym time as well.

Should I start pinning somewhere else? Try test alone and npp alone? I just don’t know what to do at this point other than hit the brakes which would suck when I’m making nice progress.

press1's picture

I'd definately consider changing your brand of gear, it could be badly mixed with solvents, BA, BB etc as I've had this with bad vials from batches. Pinning one side per week shouldn't be doing this esp when it isn't virgin muscle anymore.

Bryarb1312's picture

Same thing happened to me. I would have either my girlfriend or myself aggressively massage the injection site for like 15 minutes which hurts like hell, but it seemed to make the pip only last 2 days rather than a week.

IrishMack's picture

Of course it hurts, because you are not suppose to massage a site after injection. Next time try a heating pad or ibuprofen before you cause an absess or tear your muscles from the inside.

Sam I Am's picture

NPP is a compound that gives a lot of guys pip.

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GrowMore's picture

2ml mon/wed/fri would be more beneficial for not only reducing PIP but also keeping blood levels steady on NPP.

Great photo by the way, solid build

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rawmustard's picture

Thanks GrowMore, I like the idea of doing this.

Sam I Am's picture

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333's picture

What is the mg/ml of your test I always used 200 or 250 and had no pip then I tried only 300 and holy shit my sites took a while before I wouldn't get pip so if your using like 500mg/ml then youbwill get pip for sure

rawmustard's picture

Test is 250mg/ml I was running 500 and upped it to 750mg for this winter =/

rawmustard's picture

You’re right I need more spots, and need more rotation. This is way too much oil that picture just scared the shit out of me. 3ml is too much I need to relax.

333's picture

Lol rusty always puts pictures up like that It makes my stomach turn every time my gym bro ways pinning 3cc in his delt and I showed him one of his pictures and yeah my buddy doesn't do 3cc anymore lol

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Bill G's picture

Seems the general consensus on different esters is the quicker ones hurt more IE prop or water base. Although I've no experience with npp. I would assume it's the culprit. Being a sort of prop ester. And depending on the dosage I've found 400mg test to be crippling even at a half cc.. And I will agree with mr. Diesel about separating the dose and reducing per injection

Jayzgainz's picture

Arr you only pinning your glutes? Thats quite a bit of oil to be putting in there so regularly. Im no pro but my last cycle pinning 1.5 ml twice a week I would rotate between my glutes, delts quads and a few times lats. You need to get more pin points my friend.

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giardap's picture

Sweet jeeeezuz!!! Thats horrific!!!

twistedsister's picture

Looks like mrsa damn

Sam I Am's picture

A picture is worth a 1000 words.

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rawmustard's picture

Oh my god!!!!!

Jayzgainz's picture

Horrible!!!

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JARHEAD2's picture

3cc once a week in any spot will start to get painful for a number of reasons. Start rotating bro & you will need to lower the dosage per pin depending on which site you inject. I have 10 rotation spots & I recommend no less than 6. I won’t use the same site more than once in 3 -4 weeks.
I also recommend dropping adrol without a mid cycle blood test & especially after 6 weeks of dbol & one week between starting the drol.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/so....you-got-pip

extremediezel's picture

bro pip sucks, solution 1. you can delude the goods by adding filtered grassed oil, heat the oils before pinning, pin very slowly. i would also recommend you to use only 1cc of test on a site and 1cc of npp on another site, so you will know which oil is causing the pain, it may be one or the other, maybe both but, there is no way of knowing until you try that. also if you do less oil but more frequent might help.. let me know what works and keep us updated