posted Sat, 08/19/2017 - 19:01
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+ 16 Roid Test shows Pandas Primo is Fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I am at a loss of words. I have purchased a lot of gear from this guy and I thought his stuff was legit but I wanted to test it to be sure. I went ahead and got a roid test and sure enough his Primo came back fake. The Esther test B came back good (enanthate) However the part D test (Checks the hormone) came back false. It was suppose to change to a brownish color however it stayed clear as a bell for over 20 min. I followed the instructions to the T of the test.
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Like I said below bro pic any lab you want and send in a sample. I will cover the cost. I have hplc reports for all of the raws I brew my gear with so I am more then confident there is nothing wrong with it. If you don't believe me go right over to Reddit and look at the guy who had his primo roid test fail and then when he sent it to a lab it passed
You're at a loss for words that a $42 vial of primo might be fake? I'd be at a loss for words if it were legit.
Agreed and well said brother! If something is to good to be true, it probably is!
zorro2014You mean, it isn't........
No
How true that is.
These types tests have been shown to have potential "issues"
What you could do to confirm the test....instead of sending samples off to expensive labs or PPs lab (J or A)....is just use the test on a known Primo sample that is known to be legit. Lots of International and Domestic sources selling legit Primo. Should be an easier and quicker way to double check the test
We confirmed these tests are accurate here on eroids recently using three different labs BP being the only one to pass with flying colors.
I tested a lab im not allowed to talk about but is a src here im banned from his si page also im sure you know who im talking about and I used this Same test and it changed quick and was positive
Well damn...that sux then.
Seems weird that the result points to completely "bunk" (clear) but positive for enanthate ? How can that be? (I'm not familiar how these tests work)
I know both RoidTest and LabMax have had issues testing finished product Vs raw powders (Solvents / CoSolvents / Carrier Oil can skew the result on finished product)
Link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/laexnevjjqtqsq5/roidtest1.mp4?dl=0
(RoidTest shows Pure GrapeSeed oil tested postitive for Testosterone)
When I was researching these tests I did come across this that the carrier oil can effect the outcome.
I just saw on the news the other day that a reagent test like this was conducted on a pulled over driver there was white powder.
He told the police it was dry wall they roadside tested it and the reagent test came back positive for cocaine. He sat in jail 6 months before the actual drug lab tested it and it came back as no cocaine but dry wall.
What im basically saying is that these tests are not 100% accurate and especially since it didn't change any color its strange to me.
At the top of the test submission it even says that mass spec and hplc testing are the only real tests. These work mine was positive and I believe that what I have is primo e. I definitely believe that user error or just false reading happen.
I bought multiple tests and just tested random vials they all came back positive.
The first you add 6 drops the second there is a little round ball and this one you have to shake. Mine instantly changed color.
The no color change might indicate a bunk test or not done right i believe it would have changed to some color.
I would reccomend that the op tests again before binning the vials.
Pretty sure that source is this source
Gbi
Yea I'm saying I think they are one and the same
I test EVERYTHING I get. BP and Geneza are the ones that look flawless every time.
According to RoidTest.....
Geneza Primo is really Test P
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/roidtest-results-geneza-prim...
Wow very interesting.... I've never tried their primo
I honestly think it's the Test that's in question Vs Geneza
Still could be fake primo.....but....these types of tests are always kinda iffy
That's why I posted this link
It's worth the piece of mind to test the shit and pull bloods
Between all the tests on here we get a good idea of what's what ... harm prevention at its finest
That doesn't confirm the tests are 100% accurate.
I tend to agree with hail ... I see your point but I trust these tests and bloods more than I do these "third party testers"
But this operates under the assumption that roid test is 100% foolproof to begin with, which it is not. It's better than nothing though. Or it may be worse than nothing if all it leads to is confusion and controversy. Like Sam said, people he trusts vouch for it. Should that be thrown out the window because of roid test?when the anecdote conflicts with the home testing and vice versa, we kind of end up back to square one.
I think with oils it is 100%. Tabs are a different story, such as the winny and anavar test. If you shave off too much/not enough of the tab to get the desired mg, then the test can appear to be a different substance. With the oil, There's no chance of this, unless it's a blend.
Have any personal experience using a roidtest with oils?
No. I can't envision paying for a test that only verifies presence. I'd rather pay more for stuff that has a reputation for being quality. And like Xmad said, the company apparently isn't providing data to prove the tests work at all. We're kind of relying on their words without empirical evidence.
Kinda ironic you say this when you're suggesting that reputation is more accurate than testing ...
Knowing you have the right compound is important so if you can't imagine why anyone would pay for a test verifying presence then your to stupid to explain it to.
I'll just run gear for 14 weeks and it turns out my shit was some other shit but $25 bucks was to much money right ... you gotta be kidding
I suggested no such thing. Please cool it with the name calling; I've only ever been respectful towards you, and I'm going to keep it that way. I didn't say I can't imagine other people doing it. I said I wouldn't, as I have no need to. What I left out is I also don't plan on getting primo anytime soon, or anything else similarly exotic that's commonly faked for that matter.
Sooo you're saying no hookers from Thailand then!?
Those are commonly faked.
Hogwash! Personal experience!? Hahah
You guys are busting my balls hard today! I deserve it to an extent. I word things poorly sometimes. You guys gotta understand I work in labs regularly with very sophisticated equipment. Analytical chemistry major. So yes, I'm a little skeptical of a cheap test done at home by people who probably have no laboratory experience. If it were 100% certain that they work beyond a shadow of a doubt 100% of the time, of course I would recommend every single person use them. But that doesn't seem to be the case. See hailraizer's link? GSO tested positive for testosterone. That's not good.
This seems to be a touchy subject around here though. Kinda wish I hadn't said anything.
No disrespect intended man my bad
None taken at all, twist. That's on me for terrible wording.
I bought a bunch of pharma primo from a top source which has a reputation, roidtested it just to make sure, and come to find out it's boldenone...
Maybe you should envision the possibility of testing just for presence, or talk to a medium about it.
oxymetholone96um boldenone is liquid.... roidtest is a joke
Welll if no personal experience with them then I'd say your presence here is unverified
I guess so. I'll see my way out then.
AnonI would respectfully disagree..
Ok....I know of 2 brands actually......maybe 3
Anonx2
We just had this exact same thing happen over on Reddit, guy buys roidtest(which are crap) tests a sources primo and it failed. So the source offered to send it off to be tested and it came back as primo. Now here's what I'm going to do to dispel this. Because our primo is definitely real. I'm going to hook you up with a lab that does compound testing and I'll pay for the test and the product you send them
It should be a third party lab, not one hooked up by you...
X2
It's an independent third party testing lab that I have no affiliation with. I'm simply giving him an option of a lab to use
This is the same as when you send the sample to this lab...
I'm sure you can understand it could never be sent to a lab you suggest for obvious reasons there would always be doubt which would make the test pointless anyway .
Dejavu I was just talking to Twist about this very thing yesterday. Seems to be a common reply from the sources...
Haha what are the odds of that hunh literally just a few hours before
Hashtag1981How do you know roid test is fake?
He didn't say roid test is fake
Hashtag1981He said crap...meaning they are innaccurate.