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+ 16 Roid Test shows Pandas Primo is Fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I am at a loss of words. I have purchased a lot of gear from this guy and I thought his stuff was legit but I wanted to test it to be sure. I went ahead and got a roid test and sure enough his Primo came back fake. The Esther test B came back good (enanthate) However the part D test (Checks the hormone) came back false. It was suppose to change to a brownish color however it stayed clear as a bell for over 20 min. I followed the instructions to the T of the test.

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Zuttome's picture

I asked the same thing to roidtest they responded that the test B testes the ester (came back good) test D tests for presence of the Hormone since the test came back clear the hormone was not present.

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XmadXscientist's picture

So your saying if there's no hormone the result should be clear? I thought some other people said negatives should change too?

Gettingbig's picture

So would that mean that its a hormone with an enanthate ester just not Methenolone?

Roidtest tests for multiple compounds I wonder what hormone with enanthate it was.

Did they give you any other information
Im honestly curious because I relied on the same test to show that my primo was legit

Zuttome's picture

They did not give additional information besides the below copy and paste response

"D is used for hormone detection and B for ester identification. Since esters are fatty acids/oils, carrier oils can cause a reaction in ampule B.
With D being used for hormone detection and no color change occurring, one would presume only oil was present "
-roidtest

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Gettingbig's picture

I was also thinking the same thing that the test itself is flawed maybe damaged the chems from heat in the mail or something
No color change at all is strange

Dacky's picture

Simple way to resolve all this is for the OP to send a sample to an independent lab of his choice and get this properly tested. Believe this has been offered so let's see if it gets done. I'm watching with interest.

Gettingbig's picture

I would really like to see that also because it would give us a better understanding of how accurate these reagent tests actually are.

Dacky's picture

Can't honestly see why the OP wouldn't do this. Put the whole issue to rest and would help the community and potentially the source to get this all clarified.

Zuttome's picture

Currently looking into this now. I want this cleared up as well.

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Dacky's picture

Good on you brother. I'm not sure where you are based but there are a few vets here who do send gear in for independent testing who may be able to help you out.

Zuttome's picture

Hey Dacky I am still looking for the lab. I had a few suggestions but I am not leaving my name and address on it for obvious reasons (chain of custody seems required).. I will update everyone when i can come up with a plan.

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Dacky's picture

Thanks mate. Good on you and do keep us posted.

Fake name not work? You can try and speak to brother Hailrazor who has contributed lab test results in the past who may be able to help. Oh and FR accepted.

Zuttome's picture

I spoke with Hailrazor so looking at that as a potential avenue.

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Dacky's picture

Great fella. Hope he can help. You've conducted yourself very well through this. Now let's hope you can see it tonits conclusion. Well done.

Zuttome's picture

I asked Pale and he made a recommendation currently reaching out.

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allaboutdemgains's picture

yea no shit, seems trusted enough to be used as evidence to put you away.

Gettingbig's picture

I checked my primo enanthate from another src and this same exact test came back positive.
This is really bad. You put the round ball in the second vial?

How much did you add to the amps from the syringe?

Zuttome's picture

If you look close at the pic on Test D you will see the ball inside on the center right hand side. I placed in exactly 6 drops following the roidtest instructions.

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Gettingbig's picture

Yeah that's the right way when I got my positive for another lab it changed instantly

helloBrooklyn's picture

You're buying one roid test and multiple vials of primo though.

333's picture

New sources are like new phones... they have people buy them not knowing if there is going to be problems and then wait for the recalls to happen. It might not be the sources fault he might have thought he had legit stuff and got screwed himself on stuff we all live and learn BUT if i was a source coming out I'd make sure 100% shit was legit. Purple has been active what leads me to think that he's here to stay and not just make a quick buck. But hey who knows I'm waiting for legit bloods from purple

333's picture

Lmfao yeah kinda is

flapjack's picture

lol to be fair his name is 333

PPGfreak's picture

Hold on a minute, you bought primo for $42 and expected it to be real?! That's like buying anavar for under $1 per pill or hgh for $1 per iu and expecting it to be pharma grade or even real for that matter lol

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RickRock1086's picture

Damn so that puts Matt's HGH under your category of BS products :/

PPGfreak's picture

I gave that product a fair try. When I explained to the source and how I felt about it. Painful injection sites, side effects showing it's inpurity and the fact that I was not getting any of the benefits from it.... I was then given a free box. Then I ran that for about two weeks. Then threw it in the garbage. If you're enjoying the product, that's great and keep using it. But me personally I would rather pay more and get equality.

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RickRock1086's picture

I'd said it gave me really bad carpal tunnel & couldn't sleep at nights due to several pain. So I stopped using the product. The carpal tunnel didn't go away so I jumped back at 1IU, been bumping it .5IU every 3 weeks. Currently at 3IU and no more numbness at nights. But I'd say I'm afraid to go any higher because of the sides could get harsh as fuck.I have recently developed some vascularity that I've never seeing before but also got my diet really clean so besides that, the product seem to good if it wasn't for so many sides. PM some sources to look for that could possibly be good to try too. Thanks bro

TrenAllDay's picture

It was giving you some horrible pain and you had to quit...you wouldn't put it in the same category?!

RickRock1086's picture

It did. Couldn't sleep at all at nights. Arms where just completely numb. Carpal tunnel never went away. Currently using 3IU and no more numb arms at night. Never used HGH before so I assume this was part of that sides. PM some HGH sources to look up for future reference

TrenAllDay's picture

Good gh shouldn't cause any of that at a logical dose. Most of those "240" users are first timers and believe that's just what gh feels like...

mujeriego's picture

Not always the case, I know a source here who is cheaper than most and their gear is better than most. Including the primo

allaboutdemgains's picture

Isn't that the gear you have to wait a month or 2 to get?

TrenAllDay's picture

Are Rhinos Lost?

That who you're talking about?

mujeriego's picture

Haha yup that's the one. Their service doesn't always match their gear quality though lol so yeah you do get what you pay for one way or another

Zuttome's picture

I also bought his anavar as well... I have a test kit for it but not sure if it is worth it even using it.

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HailRazor's picture

You should definitely test the Anavar and post the results. That would be cool

Zuttome's picture

Sent a FR request Hail

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Sam I Am's picture

You have to make that decision but I would test it. There's a couple guys I trust who say it's gtg.

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Zuttome's picture

I will do it in a few days.

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Zuttome's picture

I know I knew it was too good to be true. I am a idiot

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Sam I Am's picture

Your not an idiot. The test should have turned even if it was the wrong color. I would order another test and try again. The test kit could be defective. I've used many and never had one stay clear.

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twistedsister's picture

Not necessarily you tested the water and now we know it's not primo

TrenAllDay's picture

Same as what we did...you miss 100% of the shots you don't take

twistedsister's picture

Yes exactly same shit you roid tested and I pulled bloods only way to test the waters

Sam I Am's picture

You guys did good.

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