+ 186 NPP seen a lot of people asking about it so hope this helps
Hey, how’s it going everyone?
I know I’m relatively new here, but I have noticed a lot of people in this forum have no clue what NPP is, or what it is used for! lol
Thus, I’ve decided to create my own steroid -profile for NPP, and simultaneously outline my various experiences with the compound.
For anyone who still doesn’t know what I’m talking about, NPP is a relatively new product, and is considered to be one of the few actively marketed steroids that was produced within the past 10 years.
Disclaimer: I have utilized NPP in basically every protocol: cutting, bulking, and maintaining; however, my advice is all from personal experience. Follow at your own risk, as I am not a certified professional / M.D.
Let’s begin, NPP stands for the chemical name: “nandrolone phenyl-propionate .” It’s often considered the “brother” of Deca , and this is because they are both very similar in molecular structure, with the exception of different esters attached to the molecule. (phenyl-prop v.s. deconate.)
Furthermore, the compounds half-life is around 72 hours, and as a result, there is often debate regarding the timing of NPP injection protocol. (So I’m going to address each of them individually, because injection protocols are completely reliant on goals IMO.)
Benefits of NPP compared to Deca:
a.) Little to no water retention
b.) Instant lubrication of joints, and pain-relief to injection sites.
c.) Fast acting
d.) Compound clears system only a couple of days after secession of use; and does not leave you terribly shut down for prolonged periods of time like deca.
e.) IMO faster recovery of the HPTA after cycle , because of ^^
Downfalls of NPP compared to Deca:
a.) Often a need for more frequent injections
b.) Sometimes can be painful injections
FAQ #1: “Can I utilize NPP for cutting, and how?”
A: Yes absolutely. NPP is a great compound for cutting. It will provide minimal water retention, and stacks very well with prop. Moreover, because it lubricates the joints it has excellent synergy with winstrol (if at a low BF), and eliminates winstrol’s worst side affect – dry joints.
My typical NPP cutter:
(weeks 1 – 10) Prop @ 75mg ED
(weeks 1 – 9) NPP @ 75mg ED
(weeks 5 – 10) Winstrol @ 50mg ED
^^ Notice that when I use Prop with NPP, I follow an “each day injection protocol”
FAQ #2: “Can I utilize NPP for bulking (especially lean bulking??)”
A: YES! Once again, NPP is an excellent choice for this form of bulking. The reason: NPP will provide you with a quick 10 – 15 pounds within 10 weeks of use, until secession of the compound. Moreover, because NPP is fast-acting, one will begin to see the results from it within 5 – 7 days of use. (Also, great strength gains from NPP)
My typical NPP bulker:
(weeks 1 – 14) Test-E @ 600mg EW
(weeks 1 – 13) NPP @ 525mg (each week) but EOD protocol
(weeks 9 – 16) Anavar @ 70mg ED
^^ Notice that during Bulkers I generally inject EOD
FAQ #3: “Can I use NPP similarly to Deca for therapeutic benefits?”
A: ABSOLUTELY! This is one of those things that I feel the medical community will eventually figure out. Often, doctor’s / HRT clinics will prescribe deca @ a low dosage of 100 – 250mg EW for it’s therapeutic benefits. I believe that eventually NPP may take deca’s place.
My typical NPP therapeutic cycle:
(weeks 1 – 10) Test-E @ 200mg
(weeks 1 – 9) NPP @ 200mg EW (but following EOD protocol)
^^ As you can see, I would keep the Test @ a low dosage, perhaps even a TRT dosage. Keep the NPP low, and break the injections up. 50mg x 4 injections a week = 4 injection sites that feel AMAZING, and well lubricated.
FAQ #4: "I like the above protocol ^^ but I don't like injecting .. Can I inject it every 3.5 days with my TRT dosage?"
A: Not a problem. That's another benefit of NPP. The half live of the compound is short, but JUST long enough that it can be used under this protocol.
Typical TRT + Therapeutic Cycle:
(weeks 1 - 10) Test-C @ 100 - 250mg EW
(weeks 1 - 10) NPP @ 100mg x 2 injections per week = ~ 200mg EW.
FAQ #5: "I have Deca, and want to use NPP as a kick-start... is that possible?"
A: YUP! That's fine. Run it the same way you would kick-start with prop on a Test-E cycle.
(weeks 1 - 12) Test-E @ 500mg EW
(weeks 1 - 10) Deca @ 500mg EW
(weeks 1 - 5) NPP @ 75mg ED or 125mg EOD.
Phew, finished. Ok, well I hope you guys enjoyed the read. BTW, I’ve kept all the dosages very moderate on this page, so if anyone has any special circumstances, and want to alter the dosages, or wants to stack additional compounds, etc... feel free to PM me and I’ll try and aid you as much as possible. I have run NPP at extreme dosages, and can relate to most any question . Have a good one boys; Thanks for reading.
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I have used CENSORED more recently and it was definitely the best npp I ever have used. Very strong and legit !!!
Been looking into this compound for my next cycle, thanks for the great info
Great info, I'm on npp atm, definitely a nice addition to any cycle. However mixed with test and prone to Gyno is a recipe for big tits. I know it aromatizes at around 20 percent that of test but I still find I need a ai
Lots of good info, a friend actually just recommended this to me, I was thinking of giving it a try
Awesome thanks for write up.
Great write up. Thanks for putting in the time to go in depth.
Love the stuff, i always have it somewhere in my cycle. The reason i have it in there is that it helps with my joint pain. I usually never use winstrol, and even with var sometimes my left knee hurts. But NPP always has my back.
Great info, I will be running it on my next cycle. Thanks!
I’m thinking of doing 400 sustanon and 600 NPP. I hear a lot of guys say test needs to be higher but not sore why. If you have at least a replacement dose shouldn’t that be enough to maintain sexual function or does nandrolone actually some how inactivate some of the test. My reason for wanting to run lower test is because I am a high aromatizer and trying to keep my AI as low as I can. I have had lipid problems in the past
I dont know why im a firm believer that my test should always be higher than the other compounds in my cycle. I usually never use more than 3 injectables.
Test at 500MG/Week NPP at 300MG/Week. Worked great for me!
Ever thought of using Aromasin, arimadex or letro during cycle to prevent Aromatising?
What should one expect from Npp?
For example anavar
-Muscle hardness
-incredible pumps
.-strength increase.
-Vascularity
-etc
Bighead215Great post. I currently am waiting on some NPP and Test P to get to my door step. I'm even more pumped now after reading this.
I'm currently on 400mg/wk NPP, Test blend 500mg/wk with little Masteron and gained 10lb in first 3 weeks since the beginning of my cycle. Pretty amazing result considering my age.
I also use NPP in every cycle. Just do your homework on the source they are not all equal....
In my opinion NPP is one of the best and most versatile steroids out there..... PCT is a must. This stuff will shut your own test production down completely. Guys on TRT don't have to worry about this. "Luckily" i'm one of them.
Good post.thx
Guys,
I also need your feedback about my bulking 8 Weeks EOD Cycle
Consist:
Npp - Tpp - Anastrozole - Hcg - Clomiphen - Tamoxifen
Begin 4 Days: Only Tpp 50mg Each (200mg)
MON - WED - FRI - SUN
WK 1. (For 2 Weeks)
Npp 350mg (50mg each) -
Tpp 455mg (65mg each) -
WK 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
Npp 455mg (65mg each) -
Tpp 560mg (80mg each) -
Last 4 Weeks: (5, 6, 7, 8)
Hcg 500 IU (once a Week)
WK 9. PCT (For 3 Weeks)
Day 1 - 14
Clomiphen 50mg (Daily)
Tamoxifen 20mg (Daily)
Day 15 - 21
Clomiphen 25mg (Daily)
Tamoxifen 10mg (Daily)
Cheers...
Put it here mate
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs
FR sent, would like to pick your brain a bit.
When I had it in amps a year ago I had to boil it and shoot fast is had become cristalized
So for bulking is the ratio of test to NPP 1:1??
This was a great read. Thanks for sharing.
Exactly what I was looking for +
Very good read thanks for the info!!
Red.1979Great reading. I love NPP.
I am making a cycle of 100mg NPPs and Prop 100mg for 10 weeks.
Water retention equal to zero. Great profit of strength and mass, but also definition.
Great write-up. For those who have used NPP for TRT. Do you do the injects subq or intramuscular?
Good read! Tks bro.
I have never used npp, perhaps it will help get my arms over 18inch!!!
Good stuff. Thank you
300 SavageThis statement is very true..
Typical TRT + Therapeutic Cycle:npp
100mg x 2 injections per week = ~ 200mg EW.
I have personally been doing this for a month.Elbows and shoulders feel great.No bloat.
Love NPP any day I'll use it over Deca. Every time I have use Deca it fuck me up big time. However NPP do miracles for me and the pump when running it is amazing lol.
Me too man, i actually never tried deca! hahaha What MG/ you ran it for? I had it around 300-400 with my test at 500.
Great post. Great to see different protocols listed for use.
Thanks
Good post . Thank you .
Great post. I will be trying NPP in the near future
Hey D, did u notice any effect on your libido fromNPP?? I've never ran it but when I ran regular Decca I got a big boost in my libido. Everyone is different so I know your exp may be diff from mine, but just curious. Thanks bro!
ALWAYS stock with Test (I do about 1:1 ratio). Little more Test does not hurt, especially for guys over 50. Otherwise you end up with Deca dick which is really no fun at any age.....
Nice write up. Running Sus, NPP, Mast, Var.
thanks for all the info.
Thank You Detroitnate for posting these NPP cycles, I just wrapped mine up, The NPP Bulker minus the anavar and I'm starting PCT in a few Days. I'm amazed how fast the NPP kicked in and gains I made from it @500mg a week, I gained15lbs and my joints hadn't felt this good in Years but I know that it'll wear off soon and they'll hurt again. lol. Thanks again for all the input !!!
So in other words or easiest way to say it - its deca prop,
Im on week 6 or seven now, great results, strength and i feel like it has increased my appetite,(could be just my mind though)
test sust 600mg week1-13, npp 400mg week 2-12
The NPP definitely increased my appetite the first 6 weeks also.
Legendary! Cheers for this. Do you mind if I pick your brains a bit more? I take it you'd go along with the usual ancillaries, dostinex, aromasin etc? I'd like to start NPP with a TRT/Therapeutic dosage being 52 years old and this being my first dabble with a nandrolone. I've only ever worked with various Test esters in the past and am currently on Elixir Meds Duratest 475 (1ml/week) with 0.5mg Arimidex eod. I realise this is subjective, but would I still need the usual 0.5mg of dostinex every 3 days. If it helps to answer, please feel free to check out my profile stats. Many thanks.
I know this is late but you definitely want to run the dostinex.
Thanks Serg. I just finished my cycle a few days back. Ran NPP for just over 2 months (this may seem long but feel I stopped just at the right time) and Test for about 3 months, tapered the two off, and am currently kickstarting my PCT with Sup3rPCT from Olympus labs and a few SARMs till I start proper with Clomid and Nolvadex. I went with Dostinex from start of NPP till finish and ran it alongside Aromasin (12.5mg/day because I'm very prone to sides). I must say this was a great cycle. Ok I didn't gain huge amounts (possibly due to the high Aromasin dose), maybe around a stone, but they are nice and clean gains. The SARMs (1 month cardarine, next month SR-9009) together with the dostinex and Aromasin ensured I had almost no sides which was a real blessing after the terrible bacne I had on my last cycle of Test Cyp. Will try to find the time to post the complete cycle to Eroids at some stage..
Great post man thanks for the info
awesome info thanks for the shared experience
300 SavageCheck this NPP cycle'rs.. https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/npp-cycle-hai...
i just hit my 3rd week in on the NPP Bulk cycle, I've never used nandrolone before, This stuff is amazing. I started at 400mg and I'm at 500mg the past 3 injections.Just wanted to start off a lil low too see how I reacted. Awesome !
Going to be using NPP at a modest 400mg after my cut. How long are you going to be running for, and how long did it take for you to feel the Nandrolone kick in? Experiencing any good gains so far?
I'm going to be running it for 13 weeks on the lean bulk cycle, I noticed my muscles especially in my arms looked fuller than before within 12 Days with EOD 100mg protocol. My shirts are definitely snugger. I haven't cycled in 12 1/2 months, My appetite has increased tremendously,I will weigh myself tomorrow, I've been eating like a horse. Strength is a tad more not much,Good pumps, Could be a head thing as of right now.No break outs so far and I tend to breakout easily even off cycle, .25 Arimidex every Day protocol and I shower with Dial acne bar cleanser for safety measures.
Thanks for the response man. Keep me updated! Any noticeable strength gains?
Sorry I've been slow on the updates, A friend of mine passed away so I've been a little non social the last week.
Ok, I switched to 500mg of NPP EOD, It's been 11 Days since I did so, I've noticed an increase in strength and pumps, I'm lifting 10-20 lbs more on certain excercises and I believe I can push myself further but I'm playing it safe as not too injure myself.
I need shoulder rotator cuff surgery on one shoulder and have had pain in the other one for the last 3 Years, I've been going to rehab once a week for 2 Years, My pain is now gone and I've been kicking ass on my shoulder exercises prior too my injuries with only 3 weeks into using NPP, My wrist pain is now gone also and I can do curls without the aid of a wristband.
Sides or problems I've noticed-- A lil bit of insomnia 3rd week in and still experiencing it, My blood pressure seems to be up some Days after switching too 500mg EOD, I feel a lil pressure in the back of my head, I'm very sensitive too things versus what amounts other people can handle.One thing I suffer from is migraine headaches especially when taking gear(test) which would trigger it everyday during a cycle, For some reason I haven't suffered any so far, Could be that I switched labs too and the oil the lab was using triggered it.