posted Fri, 02/10/2017 - 05:11
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Solo test prop 1-10 then PCT or 1-10 test prop then 11-30 test cyp
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Guys need your opinion on the 1st cycle after years of OFF please:
1.At the moment I on test prop solo 100mg eod since one month the plan was to do 1-10 test prop then PCT (tamoxifen, nolva just in case if something will happen with gino, and 5000ui HCG) then I realise that I can extend the SAA for long ester
2 Test Cyp like 11-30. Can someone share with me your opinion about to case scenario:
a) just do 10 cycle prop and how to exactly PCT dosage/ frequency?
b) extended with 1-10 Test prop and 11-30 test cyp how to exactly PCT dosage/ frequency?
Thanks in advance
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30 weeks? Cmon man do some research. The first bit of research I want you to do is ask us how awesome it is to have to pin every week to feel like a human being. You are En route to trt. 10 - 12 weeks. Proper pct. get bloods. Make a plan.
thanks Drock_357 for the feedback Its a strange thing that people on deferent countries advice with a completely efferent approach. My statements below are based on the advices from other people not my invention. Anyway I will ran just 10 weeks prop and thats it. Then PCT and next cycle probably next year.
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the idea firstly was just prop 6 to max 10 weeks and then pct then people advise to me that there is no point to run such a short cycle and then do a bridge or just after last prop 2nd day start long esters test cyp as long esters needs some time to kick off so 12-16 weeks will be the minimum, to keep the gain muscles not to loose it so quickly on a short cycle and water retention. Im not an experience guy thats why I asking here people with more knowledge. Yeah it will block hpta but then the right pct should sort this out or not?! Off course done some research and case study but we are learning the whole life. correct me if I`m wrong.
Ok look, I'm just gonna give you my .02 and be done, ....you don't need to bridge a cycle, you don't need to jumpstart a cycle with prop, you don't need a 16 wk cycle either......now, given that your nutrition is solid, training and rest schedules solid, everything else is good and in a happy place,....all you should need to add as far as aas is concerned is a small amount of test e or c, and a solid pct protocol....( this can easily be found by using the search function), search beginners cycles.....
Do some homework and you will hopefully see that your proposed cycle here isn't the smartest idea for a beginner!......
Really? The longer your on, the harder it is to restart your system. There is NEVER a guarantee that any pct will work for sure. There are hundreds of guys here that are on trt, because of gear use. Some after years of use and some after just a run or two. You just don't know. That's the point! The longer you run, the more chance you have of permanent shutdown, no matter what pct you run. That is the chance every steroid user takes.
Please explain to all of us why a 30 wk cycle is a good idea......
You are going to shutdown your natural production of testosterone for 8months, then expect to "recover" without SERIOUS risks to your hpta?... i don't care what pct you run, or hcg or whatever, being shutdown that long isn't a risk that anyone should take.......
Anyone can advice on my statement please with the constructive comment/advice please?
Rustyhooker please explain in more details, thanks in advance
Thanks guys for a feedback and response. Let me clarify this in more details.
1.Im not that young unfortunately 33 have had in the past like 10 years ago(omnadren, methanabol, and Test E) then decided last year as I have a good training regime 4 times gym, then 3times BJJ/week wants to increase a bit power/built more muscle. Why I have chosen test prop as a first cycle since a several years break:
1.short esther easy to control as it stays 2 days in the body only and kick off straight if some side effects has happened( test fever, allergy, gino)
2.less bloating and more lean muscle that others test
3.only down side is pinning eo2 but I don’t mind as I came from doctors family.
Progress is great so far as I have proper diet and supplements(multivit, Omega3, garlic tabs, essential forte, organs&liver defender, ZMA,Vit C,Protein powder,Creatine,BCAA, glucose ) as well.
30kg on a flat bench in 1 month I`m gaining weight&burning fat so only lean muscle which is great and what I want!
4.Then I had advices like do not do PCT after test prop solo just carry on and jump in Test C long ester e4d for the next 16-20 weeks as with long ester short cycle is not good coz after the cycle will lose all the muscles, (more water retention than Test Prop) so need to run it for longer
5.how would PCT looks like if I will finish prop after 10 weeks( 2nd day of the last inj add 500ui HCG split to 3-4 small inj and then SERM tamoxifen (50mg 1st%2nd day then 20mg for a month after 3rd day after last hcg ( also tribulus and maybe other test booster what you recon?)
6. How does the PCT looks like if I decided to do the whole 10 weeks test prop and then 19 weeks test C.
Appreciated for your opinion and thanks in advance
RustyhookerYou sound like you're trolling here. Your ideals are piss poor and suggest you spend a few hours reading first.
I think you mean Gyno.
That's a silly way to run a cycle, not to mention, when that cyp clears, you'll be on 8 months. Geesh
30wk cycle should be a good way to put yourself on trt and then you get to join the rest of us unlucky bastards that have to pin it every week for the rest of our lives just to feel somewhat normal.
That seems to be all the rage with these younger guys.....getting on trt.
If i read this right you wanna cycle for 29 weeks...10 week prop and 19test cyp. Insane brother and it also sounds like you are asking for advice and already taking prop for a month. What was your goal of using prop for 10 weeks and then start the long ester? I generally use test prop to kick start a long ester...6 week on prop is my range. In my opinion, i feel you should have done a nice 12 week test e cycle without prop since this is your 1st cycle..if im reading it right. It reads to me like 2 cycles joined into one whole 29 week cycle.
More research would of been helpful to you. 10 weeks of jabbing eod of prop.....