Tren and low carbs
Hey guys so I've been on tren A 50mg eod and Test e 250mg e3d for going on 16 days now. Taking .25mg arimidex eod. My diet is only about 1800 calories per day, 200g protein, 50g(mainly from veggies) and 50g of fats per day. The past 2-3 days I've noticed in the afternoons that I start to feel really sleepy and lack of energy, even some shakes on occasion. Do you guys think this is due to the fact of the low carbs? I know there is a lot of back and forth about low carbs vs high carbs when using tren. reason for being on this diet is prepping for a show. I'm 5'8 192lbs and down to about 15% BF right now. My body doesn't react well to carbs when cutting fat, if I go over 100-150g of carbs I don't lose weight but on low carbs I drop weight pretty good. Any advice or thoughts would be appreciated
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I don't understand why people cut their carbs down so low the most I have gone down to is 400 a day just do more cardio it's simple bust your Arse with serious cardio.
Obviously you have never done a show or tried to get down to 5% BF. Cutting carbs is the only way to accomplish that.
Yes your correct I've have not competed,but wondered if it was possible to keep carbs at a minimum of say 3-400 a day and just increase cardio like a wildman and have same affect.
I wish it would work that way but it doesn't. You have to drop carbs and do cardio like a wildman.
Lol that's probably why my body fat has never been under 13%,my diet sometimes lacks i crave too much bread.
You could use stims for now for a boost,
you might reconsider using some simple carbs around workouts - feed the body what it needs at the right time, so vitargo or something when it will be utilised immediately, then the rest of your day is per the calorific deficit - personally I would be more inclined to feed the body accordingly rather than 2xweekly refeeds which will keep you in a perpetual energy fluctuation... everyone is different though...
For future shows, have you though about going Keto? Your energy remains very high, the body is far more effective on fat, you should shed bf% equally well but probably better, and your mental well being will be far better...
Unless you are about 2wks out from showtime, your carbs are too low and cals are too low. You are ruining your metabolism and pretty soon you will hit a roadblock with fatloss. It will happen and now you will have no where else to go. You can't lower carbs anymore and you can't lower cals anymore so what are you going to do when your fat loss plateaus? Your coach is sending you down a dead end road.
I have been on this diet 10 weeks now, down 27lbs. No it hasn't been this low on carbs or caps the entire time. Only been this way for two weeks. We also do refeed of carbs in middle of week and weekends. So no not every day has been this way. Making changes to meal plan every 1-2 weeks to prevent my body from a plateau
Sounds good. Good luck with the show.
Apparently your coach needs to be coached.. I would never run tren ace with test e.... you probably have no energy due to the tren ace Kicking in and your test e hasn't even kicked in .... your test levels are probably low..test e takes about 4 weeks for your levels to maximize... test prop, tren ace is logical bro, not tren ace, test e...
I disagree completely
Its easy to front load to get blood levels up
test e, if you're using test, is a great stable hormone, stick it in and off you go, a great baseline
using tren ace is good to control the sides/blood levels
absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever with mixing these compounds, in fact it is arguable that its a better option than using prop/tren ace - get your stable baseline and then put your focus on controlling 1 short ester compound instead of 2
Yea I know test e isn't preferred with tren ace but people do it and get great results from it and that's what he recommended for me, going to switch to
Prop as show time gets closer. And my test levels were low before I started. 521ng/dl. But since then I have felt much better and an increase in energy since starting the cycle. Pretty sure test levels are higher now, sex drive and libido is through the roof, hard as a rock all the time. If test levels were that low while running tren and arimidex pretty sure I would be shut down. Maybe I'm wrong. And like I said more then likely lack of energy in the afternoons the passed 2-3 days is probably due to no carbs or just slow days at work causing mental fatigue because other then that I have been feeling great especially in the gym and that's after I get off work. I have been feeling this way for 2-3 days for about a 3 hour period about the same time each day. But before and after that time frame
I'm great. So I'm guessing it's those carbs. Not to mention I'm up at 4am to do 1 hour of cardio so I'm going only getting 6-7hrs of sleep daily so I'm sure that has something to do with the lack of energy as well. Thanks for the input
I read your other post and saw cycle history and why you're running this one. Your previous cycles were mostly mild compounds and then you're breaking out the nuclear warheads for a physique show? This seems a little ridiculous don't you think? Especially considering you could not figure out that massive amounts of test building in your systems creates water retention and thus weight gain? Carbs are your body's energy source and you need way more. If I was you I would ask myself if melting my organs with tren is worth the shot at a bikini trophy. I'm sure with a little research you can find information on less damaging compounds that you could use to accomplish your goals. Rusty has given you some good advice so far. I hope your coach is helping you for free as a sponsor or something because it does not seem like you're getting good advice based on the questions you've asked here.
Doing test and tren because it's probably the best and easiest way to get shredded and gain muscle with only using two compounds. Not trying to use 3-4 different compounds. And of course I thought about water retention causing weight gain while on test but with it only being 8 days I thought that was a little soon compared to my other cycles. And I thought well it doesn't hurt to ask for others thoughts and opinions but apparently I was wrong. I'm not doing this cycle just for a physique show, I would be doing it either way. And I'm not doing the physique show just for a trophy. It's a goal and will be an accomplishment of mine, being fat and overweight your entire life and then turning into someone with a nice, healthy looking body with shredded abs, legs etc all that I've never had and then standing up on stage showing off all your hard work. What a great feeling it is. So yea far more then just for a "trophy". Coach is a good friend of mine and has been in the game for awhile. He does things different then some others as far as diet and cycles. Just depends on the person and body type. He doesn't use cookie cutter or what people would "normally" use. This cycle and diet was a suggestion of his and something that works well for him for prep as we have very similar body types, does that mean it's going to be great for me? Of course not. Nobody ever knows if tren will be great for them until they try it. As far as carbs go, I know that's what fuels your body. Done low carb diets a few times now but never really felt the lack of energy from it but that's most likely why the past couple days I have been more tired then normal since tren likes carbs. But again didn't think it would hurt to ask but I was wrong apparently. Other then the passed couple days of feeling lack of energy in the afternoons I have felt great on this cycle with low carbs, making incredible gains and cutting fat. I'll add some carbs pre and post workout and see if that helps. Thanks
You can get great results with just 500mg of test e per week bro without the horrible sides... tren is not worth it.. old school cycles for amazing results... keep it simple and you'll be a lot more happier... simple cycles for amazing results.. if you're running tren ace, use test prop with it, you're going to be pinning the same anyways... good luck man
Maybe possible low blood sugar?
RustyhookerAlso not sure why you mixed wrong esters? Post your cycle fully
My coach told me to use those two. Cycle is tren Acetate 50mg eod and test enanthate 250 e3d. .25mg arimidex eod
X2 on that point
also 26 yrs old on tren? How many cycles have you ran?
Do you have something for prolactin if it becomes an issue?
Tren eats carbs the fuck up, I can't sleep for shit when I don't get carbs at night on tren, and yes you'll swear like a whore on tren.
This will be my 4th cycle. But it has been two years since my last one. First cycle I was 24. Test only. And yes I have prami
This is why I'm never using this drug. I rather do Masteron, feels good & getting shredded without sides, works for me
Low carbs makes you sleepy there like fuel I'm the same way my body holds on to carbs and when I take in a little more then I should I pack the weight on also tren makes me tired as well not sure why but it does
I've been doing low carbs for about two months now, mixed in with some refeed days. But hadn't really started feeling this way until 2-3 days ago. Also last night woke up in the middle of the night with tren sweats and some nausea
Lmao get used to those tren sweats and your probably not getting to rem in your sleep from tren that shit makes me toss and turn all night